darkpoet Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, mooby said: Are we too hard on our team? I would venture to say a hard on is exactly what this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, mooby said: Yeah I get what you're saying. Been all across Canada, and yes in my opinion Vancouver is in my opinion at the top end of places to live. Just kind of trashy to bag on a team because of that bias... That being said. I hate the Ducks because of Kesler, and love Ottawa because of Burr. So am I any better? And what did fans of other Canadian teams like about Marchand, Thomas, Lucic, Thornton, Ference and the rest that made them preferable to Burrows, Kesler, Torres, Lapierre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooby Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, darkpoet said: I would venture to say a hard on is exactly what this team needs. There's pills for that... Maybe we should all chip in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, Davathor said: That's true.. but the way 2011 dominated the entire season in almost every stat puts them a hair above IMO.. that whole playoff run was magic.. maybe recent memory has to do with it too, but I don't think I've enjoyed any win more than Burrows Game 7 OT against the Hawks... threw my voice out that night It was an amazing team, but for me, the way game 7 ended in 1994 left me with far more pride as a fan than the way game 7 ended in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooby Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: And what did fans of other Canadian teams like about Marchand, Thomas, Lucic, Thornton, Ference and the rest that made them preferable to Burrows, Kesler, Torres, Lapierre? Marchand is the cutest rat out there! Seriously though yeah. Point taken. That Bruins team was filled with what I would say are very "unlikeable" players. Might always remain a mystery, but I think there is some truth to the actual geographic jealousy within Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: And what did fans of other Canadian teams like about Marchand, Thomas, Lucic, Thornton, Ference and the rest that made them preferable to Burrows, Kesler, Torres, Lapierre? I remember other fans saying "oh well there's more Canadian players on Boston".. it's just stupidity. They got BEAT on by the Canucks all season, and cheered for another Bettman-endorsed American team to win the cup over their own country. It's actually a big reason I stopped caring about the playoffs once the Nucks are out. I'll watch an interesting matchup like ANA-CHI, but my care levels pretty low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: It was an amazing team, but for me, the way game 7 ended in 1994 left me with far more pride as a fan than the way game 7 ended in 2011. That's actually a really good point... the team running out of gas in 2011, getting shut out 4-0 on home ice... I guess I blocked that part of the run out of my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I don't like that our team is too nice. And is perceived as soft by the rest of the league. I don't like that we're a soft or finesse team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: It was an amazing team, but for me, the way game 7 ended in 1994 left me with far more pride as a fan than the way game 7 ended in 2011. 1994: Bettman had only wks/months(?) to poison the well, at that point. NY's blaring media could assist with the meddling & myopia. 2011: With almost two decades to properly rig the casino, it reflects well on that team they could make it that far. Injuries-galore. Both were honourable teams, deserving praise of champions, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: 1994: Bettman had only wks/months(?) to poison the well, at that point. NY's blaring media could assist with the meddling & myopia. 2011: With almost two decades to properly rig the casino, it reflects well on that team they could make it that far. Injuries-galore. Both were honourable teams, deserving praise of champions, IMHO Both were great teams, for sure. The 2011 team was really just toying with the rest of the league. It wasn't even close. It's just the way that the team essentially gave up in that final game. Not taking about the playoffs in general, merely game 7. I've watched it a few times, and it wasn't a championship game, down to the wire type of nailbiter. It was a blowout. Maybe the team saw that the deck was rigged and threw the towel in. Who knows. It seemed that the Bruins had the officials on their knees, mouths agape with what they got away with. If I had to pick a great game 7 for the Canucks, that would be at the bottom of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Both were great teams, for sure. The 2011 team was really just toying with the rest of the league. It wasn't even close. It's just the way that the team essentially gave up in that final game. Not taking about the playoffs in general, merely game 7. I've watched it a few times, and it wasn't a championship game, down to the wire type of nailbiter. It was a blowout. Maybe the team saw that the deck was rigged and threw the towel in. Who knows. It seemed that the Bruins had the officials on their knees, mouths agape with what they got away with. If I had to pick a great game 7 for the Canucks, that would be at the bottom of the list. The Petr Skudra game 7 against Minnesota was really bad too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategal Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I've stopped reading the GDT and PGT for the most part as I'm tired of all the individual player bashing that goes on. As someone earlier said, it's easy to criticize a pro athlete without a clue about what sacrifices they have made to get to where they are while we have our fat butt parked on a sofa noshing on chips. (paraphrased a bit). Do I think we're too hard, yes for the above reasons, but at the same time I think we all are here for the same reason, we're fans, we love our team and want nothing more than for them to do well. Hard perhaps to accept that we are struggling again this season for a myriad of reasons. I agree that the games are more fun to watch this year. We have so much promise in the pipeline that it's an intriguing time to be a fan, and I for one will continue to support the whole team. I don't believe we have any lazy ass dogs on the team. We have players that for whatever reason may not be a good fit but I don't believe they aren't trying. You don't get to the pro level or stay there by not trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacIPuma Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Arent we always hard on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish⑦Canuck Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Probably, but it's natural in a thread like a GDT to vent. I loved the way we started the season because I saw maximum effort and entertaining hockey. Through no fault of the team injuries have changed things, but it does frustrate me to see some of the guys take a night off and perform so poorly. That and Edler almost intentionally not passing to Boeser whenever he's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 No. I expect heart and effort. I don't care about losing. I care about losing badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Are we too hard? No.. why? Coz it’s not about losing.. it’s the way the team and players being deployed. We are suppose to be a rebuilding team not a make the playoff and hope for the best team. We are playing our vets over young players. Look at how much we are playing ppl like Dowd. He’s like Megna to Willie D.. so much for all he talks about Travis green being a young players coach.. what I’m seeing now from last year is no different maybe a little more up tempo style but still play vets over young guys in hope of making the playoff rather than developing the prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: I don't like that our team is too nice. And is perceived as soft by the rest of the league. I don't like that we're a soft or finesse team. Apparently Vancouver from what I read locally people seem to think the Canucks have been soft and weak since I started watching them back in the 80's lol. People go on about it because we didn't have what ? Derian and Kevin Hatcher on the blueline ? multiple forward lines of heavy physical producing players ? The Canucks are not perceived by the rest of the League as soft, I swear people say things like that to get a rise out of this market. I mean and here is where people won't agree but you won't see tougher not putting up with BS players than the twins for example because they just get back up and go to work. Since they rarely if ever dropped the gloves or were dirty they were viewed as weak, dare I say scared ? But you got 20 guys who will compete their asses off and maybe won't crush people with hits but maybe play with respect which can be confused with being too nice to right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 hours ago, chon derry said: ya it's kinda corney but I copied it because that's the way it is . after every gut wrenching loss i'm still here ,any body reading this is still here . @-AJ- no lack of patience here . 48th year ! That this right here only has two likes concerns me deeply. Canucks all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I'm okay with people criticizing player performance. It's part of why we have discussion boards. I'm not okay with people actively rooting for certain players to get hurt. Would you want people wishing you to get hurt at your workplace? That crap needs to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 4 hours ago, oldnews said: Let's see.... Sbisa was allegedly one of the worst defensemen in the NHL / worst contract ever candidate, right - but a top pairing D in Vegas. Weber - wasn't fit for the press box - but re-signed for his 3rd and 4th years on one of the best bluelines in the NHL. (to be fair, he wasn't good here his last year). Edler - a lot of people would do anything to get him out of the lineup.....waivers, cap dump, you name it....but coach after NHL coach, and the Swedish National team, consider him a workhorse. Ballard - lol - never had a chance here... Meh - this list could go on for pages....so I'm stopping with just a few D.... Sbisa had the best plus/minus of D's last year. Lots of fans thought he should have been protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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