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Just now, Ryan Strome said:

Yeah. Canadian news catering to Canadians. Not surprised. Either way, we are not an energy super-power. There are only two energy super-powers in the world - Russia and Saudi Arabia. And piddly lil nations like Qatar or Algeria are more of an energy exporter than we are.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_net_oil_exports

 

we come in at 16th in the world for net exports of oil. Throw in natural gas and we start to crack the top 10, but again, not 'super-power' by any stretch of the imagination. 

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32 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

Yeah. Canadian news catering to Canadians. Not surprised. Either way, we are not an energy super-power. There are only two energy super-powers in the world - Russia and Saudi Arabia. And piddly lil nations like Qatar or Algeria are more of an energy exporter than we are.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_net_oil_exports

 

we come in at 16th in the world for net exports of oil. Throw in natural gas and we start to crack the top 10, but again, not 'super-power' by any stretch of the imagination. 

We abdicated our super power status to appease pipeline protesters. Our currency may not even be a petro currency anymore (it still is imo). As per my original statement.

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17 minutes ago, Dash Riprock said:

We abdicated our super power status to appease pipeline protesters. Our currency may not even be a petro currency anymore (it still is imo). As per my original statement.

our pipeline protesters are against future expansion. It doesn't impact the fact that we are barely a top 10 net exporter of oil and gas currently.....

 

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1 hour ago, Dash Riprock said:

You'll become rich very fast at the prices we see right now. Unbelievable.

Alberta and Albertans will be a welfare state in 20 years once the dirty bitumen runs out.

 

With next to no money saved in the Alberta Heritage Fund......  Will Alberta / Albertans even bother celebrate Christmas in the province.....?

 

BC may need to build a wall at the BC / Alberta border just to keep Albertans moving out to BC to fill all the minimum wage jobs  in our province.....

 

Alberta should have diversified their economy when the had all the Petro dollars.....  too late now.

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28 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

our pipeline protesters are against future expansion. It doesn't impact the fact that we are barely a top 10 net exporter of oil and gas currently.....

 

Oil consumption is skyrocketing. To be a top player you need to grow. Big players left Canada because they wouldn't be allowed to do so. We are going down. That's the point.

 

If KM, Line 3, and Keystone were all completed now as they should have been, we would be exporting nearly 2 million more barrels a day now. Superpower. Venezuela, Mexico, Russia and OPEC would have needed to do  the adjusting.

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4 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Alberta and Albertans will be a welfare state in 20 years once the dirty bitumen runs out.

 

With next to no money saved in the Alberta Heritage Fund......  Will Alberta / Albertans even bother celebrate Christmas in the province.....?

 

BC may need to build a wall at the BC / Alberta border just to keep Albertans moving out to BC to fill all the minimum wage jobs  in our province.....

 

Alberta should have diversified their economy when the had all the Petro dollars.....  too late now.

You are making a better and better case why provincial powers should be nixed and why provincialism is a cancer to Canada. 

#CanadianB4BC-ite.

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19 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

You are making a better and better case why provincial powers should be nixed and why provincialism is a cancer to Canada. 

#CanadianB4BC-ite.

Would you speak up if your daughter was thinking of getting engaged to the kid down the street with no job, no future and he enjoyed  taking a dump in both  his families   and also his good neighbours backyard pool ?

 

I hope so. 

 

BC citizens need to speak up and protect what we have in our beautiful province....  Keep BC Beautiful. 

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Just now, kingofsurrey said:

Would you speak up if your daughter was thinking of getting engaged to the kid down the street with no job, no future and he enjoyed  taking a dump in both  his families   and also his good neighbours backyard pool ?

 

I hope so. 

 

BC citizens need to speak up and protect what we have in our beautiful province....  Keep BC Beautiful. 

wrong analogy.

We are not BC citizens. We are Canadian citizens. Whats ours, is all Canada's and whats all Canada's is ours. Keep BC beautiful but Canada comes before BC. And i've probably been here living in BC longer than you've been an adult, by a long, long shot. 

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Just now, canuckistani said:

wrong analogy.

We are not BC citizens. We are Canadian citizens. Whats ours, is all Canada's and whats all Canada's is ours. Keep BC beautiful but Canada comes before BC. And i've probably been here living in BC longer than you've been an adult, by a long, long shot. 

Finally some more great news

 

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/dan-fumano-vancouver-investigating-climate-cost-recovery-from-fossil-fuel-companies

 

City of Vancouver staff are investigating the possibility of recovering climate change-related costs from fossil fuel companies.

City staff have been holding in camera meetings to review their legal options, Vancouver’s city manager told council Tuesday at their 2019 budget meeting, in response to a councillor’s question. And Vancouver Mayor Kennedy Stewart, who made headlines earlier this year for his arrest, charge and guilty plea for his part in a climate protest, said Tuesday he looks forward to hearing back from staff on the issue.

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1 minute ago, canuckistani said:

wrong analogy.

We are not BC citizens. We are Canadian citizens. Whats ours, is all Canada's and whats all Canada's is ours. Keep BC beautiful but Canada comes before BC. And i've probably been here living in BC longer than you've been an adult, by a long, long shot. 

BC comes first. Canada second. 

 

My family has been in BC for 120 years......   I am a BCer first and foremost. 

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Just now, kingofsurrey said:

Finally some more great news

 

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/dan-fumano-vancouver-investigating-climate-cost-recovery-from-fossil-fuel-companies

 

City of Vancouver staff are investigating the possibility of recovering climate change-related costs from fossil fuel companies.

City staff have been holding in camera meetings to review their legal options, Vancouver’s city manager told council Tuesday at their 2019 budget meeting, in response to a councillor’s question. And Vancouver Mayor Kennedy Stewart, who made headlines earlier this year for his arrest, charge and guilty plea for his part in a climate protest, said Tuesday he looks forward to hearing back from staff on the issue.

How is quoting me relevant on this ? What city council of vancouver does for fossil fuels, is irrelevant to the fact that we are Canadian citizens, not BC citizens. 

 

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Just now, kingofsurrey said:

BC comes first. Canada second. 

 

My family has been in BC for 120 years......   I am a BCer first and foremost. 

Nope. Canada comes first. BC is nothing more than an administrative unit. BC will come first only when BC is a nation - which will never ever happen, because sensible Canadians like us will always outnumber NIMBY-ite short-sighted people and block such a move. 

Our rights, our everything comes from Ottawa. Not Victoria. Victoria is there just to make Ottawa's administrative task easier, nothing more. 

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Just now, canuckistani said:

Nope. Canada comes first. BC is nothing more than an administrative unit. BC will come first only when BC is a nation - which will never ever happen, because sensible Canadians like us will always outnumber NIMBY-ite short-sighted people and block such a move. 

Our rights, our everything comes from Ottawa. Not Victoria. Victoria is there just to make Ottawa's administrative task easier, nothing more. 

Canada and Ottawa could not give a r......ts . a . about British Columbia. 

Ontario controls confederation.

 

I will always be a . BCer first and foremost.   Just like my dad and my grandfather before him.... and my great grandfather that came to BC from Scotland...

 

We are a proud BC family......  

 

PS - the leafs suck 

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2 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Canada and Ottawa could not give a r......ts . a . about British Columbia. 

Ontario controls confederation.

As they should. They make up most of the people hence they get most of the voice. Just like how rest of BC doesn't like the fact that a tiny chunk of BC (lower mainland) controls most of BC because thats where most people live. 

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I will always be a . BCer first and foremost. 

Yet your rights, your taxes, your travel permit will all be determined by Ottawa, not BC. So you can choose to be ignorant, but it doesn't change the fact that BC is meaningless. 

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 Just like my dad and my grandfather before him.... and my great grandfather that came to BC from Scotland...

 

We are a proud BC family......  

 

PS - the leafs suck 

PS: the leafs do suck. Doesn't change the fact that we are Canada first, provinces second. Its because of people like you that there is a growing traction to further weaken provincial powers. And i am all for it. 

PPS: too bad you and your family are proud over political entities that don't matter. Saying you are a proud BC-ite has as much relevance as saying I am a proud Kitsilano-an. 

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2 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

As they should. They make up most of the people hence they get most of the voice. Just like how rest of BC doesn't like the fact that a tiny chunk of BC (lower mainland) controls most of BC because thats where most people live. 

Yet your rights, your taxes, your travel permit will all be determined by Ottawa, not BC. So you can choose to be ignorant, but it doesn't change the fact that BC is meaningless. 

PS: the leafs do suck. Doesn't change the fact that we are Canada first, provinces second. Its because of people like you that there is a growing traction to further weaken provincial powers. And i am all for it. 

PPS: too bad you and your family are proud over political entities that don't matter. Saying you are a proud BC-ite has as much relevance as saying I am a proud Kitsilano-an. 

My education and health care is determined by  Victoria....

My garbage pickup is determined by Surrey......

 

I will always be more a BCer than a Canadian.

 

If BC ever has a chance to join Washington State  / Alaska  / Oregon  -  i would vote yes in a heart beat.  Even if it meant letting Alberta join in with us. 

Most Ontarians can probably not even locate BC on a . North American map......

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Just now, kingofsurrey said:

My education and health care is determined by  Victoria....

Nope. THey are determined by CRA, which Ottawa dispenses TO Victoria. 

Just now, kingofsurrey said:

My garbage pickup is determined by Surrey......

So ? My garbage is picked up in Kits. So f*ck surrey. See how it works ? 

Just now, kingofsurrey said:

 

I will always be more a BCer than a Canadian.

Thats because you have not lived anywhere outside of BC in Canada and don't know how the country works. Or what is a country and what is an irrelevant 'for convinience only' sub-unit of a country. 

Just now, kingofsurrey said:

 

If BC ever has a chance to join Washington State  / Alaska  / Oregon  -  i would vote yes in a heart beat.  Even if it meant letting Alberta join in with us. 

Most Ontarians can probably not even locate BC on a . North American map......

And most Canadians will vote against such NIMBY-istic nonsense. Canadian before anything. Because our rights, our healthcare, our policies - ALL are made by Ottawa, with Ottawa ALLOWING Victoria to have some autonomy for convinience's sake. BC has no rights. Our rights come from Ottawa. What is a crime and what is not is determined by Ottawa. 


The # of people who are sick of NIMBY-istic nonsense between provinces are growing and in this day and world, we need a stronger, united Canada, not one scoring own-goals on itself because of random rednecks who are too unemployable and too small-minded to even live across the country a bit. 

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3 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

Nope. THey are determined by CRA, which Ottawa dispenses TO Victoria. 

So ? My garbage is picked up in Kits. So f*ck surrey. See how it works ? 

Thats because you have not lived anywhere outside of BC in Canada and don't know how the country works. Or what is a country and what is an irrelevant 'for convinience only' sub-unit of a country. 

And most Canadians will vote against such NIMBY-istic nonsense. Canadian before anything. Because our rights, our healthcare, our policies - ALL are made by Ottawa, with Ottawa ALLOWING Victoria to have some autonomy for convinience's sake. BC has no rights. Our rights come from Ottawa. What is a crime and what is not is determined by Ottawa. 


The # of people who are sick of NIMBY-istic nonsense between provinces are growing and in this day and world, we need a stronger, united Canada, not one scoring own-goals on itself because of random rednecks who are too unemployable and too small-minded to even live across the country a bit. 

You are reaching now...

Lived  in Alberta and  briefly in Quebec.

Travelled across Europe /USA  and visited parts of Africa and Asia.

 

People in BC are in fact sick of a Federal Goverment in Ottawa that sells out our province  and has let weak  immigration  policy destroy our social fabric. 

 

Nice try though..

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