Toews Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Can Vancouver really talk? We’ve been worse than both Alberta teams in the last 3 years. The Alberta teams have sucked for a lot longer and I will wager that they will continue to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Toews said: The Alberta teams have sucked for a lot longer and I will wager that they will continue to suck. Alberta teams each have Stanley cup banners. Alberta teams actually have fans show up to the game to cheer. When it comes to debating hockey with my fellow albertans. There’s very little leverage I have over there teams. Hopefully soon we will have something to show for it but until then I just have to sit quietly and let them bug me. I get enjoyment out of there mistakes but they always have the advantage. Edited April 19, 2018 by ForsbergTheGreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Toews said: Maybe its because JT deserves credit for the suspension of the pipeline. Just ask the guy that you plan on voting for in 2019. So either Scheer is just being a disingenuous prevaricator or our mutual friend @kingofsurrey has been right all along and JT never really cared too much for the sludge from Alberta. Looks to me like Scheer is implying that he pulled the wool over some foolish Albertans. there's nothing to back up that '80 billion' thing. And TM hasn't "devastated" anything yet, they have a window between now and summer construction season which wouldn't start yet anyway to apply fake pressure and get some government funding. They're playing AB like a fiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: what did they say they were jealous of? Money, vehicles, boats, trailers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Money, vehicles, boats, trailers. well.... i guess thats why we have free movement of labour. If the toys are that important then go work in the patch I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: Polls indicate he won't be in office past 2019. But after the U.S election I don't think you trust polls although you did leading up to their election. The latest Nanos poll has the Liberals up 11.9% over the conservatives. But you are correct polls this far out from the election don't mean much of anything. A lot can and will happen between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: cool story. So that dil bit is mine too, eh? I don't think Albertans are aware of BC's options when it comes to fuel. Sure, AB can hurt us in the short term, but in less than a year YVR will have a new terminal for jet fuel which will cut Kinder Morgan out of the picture for aircraft. The price increase that Notley creates also means its viable for us to get fuel trucked up from refineries in Washington State. All Notley is going to do is succeed in losing its #1 Canadian customer. The benefits of the dilbit for you have been immense. This fight is to the death, do what you need to do. We are being robbed of billions....it's over. 17 hours ago, Warhippy said: Bingo. Although that argument has been gone over twice now. In that said poster claims it's "his" but that the oil etc is also "his" and not ours. I want to call it stupid, but that would be almost complimentary for what I think of that argument I never said nor do I believe this. 12 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Oil is not the devil..... but global warming / climate change is definately something we all need to consider. The time to invest in Green energy is now. Canada has failed so far in the development / support for Green technology. Very sad that our environmentalist choose to bay at the moon and shake their fists at clouds instead of doing something about our species going extinct. Your salmon are going down the tube, Selkirk caribou are down to females only, yet all you can think about is the natural warming of the planet.....grrrrrrrrrrr. Wake up. Anyway, here's a way for you three to all benefit to the max from our energy. Take a few thousand...embrace our strength...and grab a 30 bagger. You've helped destroy these for your San Francisco leaders, now we can all cash in. Don't say I never did anything for you. (There's lots to choose from) This is BNP. (more for LNG) For oil here is BNE Oh....oil and gas consumption is going through the roof world wide....before KOS comes in with his "dead industry" mantra. Edited April 19, 2018 by mightycpc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Alberta teams each have Stanley cup banners. Alberta teams actually have fans show up to the game to cheer. When it comes to debating hockey with my fellow albertans. There’s very little leverage I have over there teams. Hopefully soon we will have something to show for it but until then I just have to sit quietly and let them bug me. I get enjoyment out of there mistakes but they always have the advantage. All of Alberta's banners came before I was even born. They have no advantage over me, I laugh at them when they bring up their glory years. I am sure they can relive their past glory on VHS tapes. Edited April 19, 2018 by Toews 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, mightycpc said: The benefits of the dilbit for you have been immense. This fight is to the death, do what you need to do. We are being robbed of billions....it's over. actually, no they have not. Even your idol Harper admitted that oil was not the main driver of our economy. But you know that. With everything thats being stacked up against the opposition this project certainly has a good chance of getting through, but I won't shed any tears if it goes down. Its also not the end of Kinder Morgan's investments in Canada, their CEO said yesterday that they would still be investing in projects, even in BC. You still don't seem to get it. You can't treat other provinces the way AB is trying to and think its all going to go well for you. AB's long term game is to hurt BC on gas prices and put our coastal economy at greater risk. AB would ship 100% dil bit through the TM pipeline if it could, knowing full well what that would do to gas prices in BC. And thats the "partner" we're supposed to be bending over for? With partners like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Toews said: All of Alberta's banners came before I was even born. They have no advantage over me, I laugh at them when they bring up their glory years. Plus, they have to live in the snow and cold of the VERY LONG winter, and get eaten by the VERY BIG BUGS in the extremely short summer. I must admit though, they do have some really nice lakes for swimming, if you don't mind leaches. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: actually, no they have not. Even your idol Harper admitted that oil was not the main driver of our economy. But you know that. With everything thats being stacked up against the opposition this project certainly has a good chance of getting through, but I won't shed any tears if it goes down. Its also not the end of Kinder Morgan's investments in Canada, their CEO said yesterday that they would still be investing in projects, even in BC. You still don't seem to get it. You can't treat other provinces the way AB is trying to and think its all going to go well for you. AB's long term game is to hurt BC on gas prices and put our coastal economy at greater risk. AB would ship 100% dil bit through the TM pipeline if it could, knowing full well what that would do to gas prices in BC. And thats the "partner" we're supposed to be bending over for? With partners like that.... Alberta has cost BC zero billions. BC is costing Canadians mega billions yearly. Do you understand? Harper was your dream come true, always pandering to get your vote. Trudeau wants mine. That is Canadian politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Toews said: All of Alberta's banners came before I was even born. They have no advantage over me, I laugh at them when they bring up their glory years. I am sure they can relive their past glory on VHS tapes. You’re that young? Didn’t expect that. In the same instance you’re doing the exact same thing. Living in the past. It’s been 6 years since canucks have been any good. Since 2013 flames have the off series under their belt with 3, where canucks and oilers only have two rounds. Either way point is, no Alberta or B.C. teams have much to brag about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: You’re that young? Didn’t expect that. In the same instance you’re doing the exact same thing. Living in the past. It’s been 6 years since canucks have been any good. Since 2013 flames have the off series under their belt with 3, where canucks and oilers only have two rounds. Either way point is, no Alberta or B.C. teams have much to brag about. I agree which is why I said that we weren't jealous of their hockey teams. I was referring mostly to the present where both teams have flopped while trying to 'go for it'. The Canucks were expected to be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, mightycpc said: Alberta has cost BC zero billions. BC is costing Canadians mega billions yearly. Do you understand? Harper was your dream come true, always pandering to get your vote. Trudeau wants mine. That is Canadian politics. no, you need to understand, business deals need partners. Kinder Morgan understands that, even now they say they'll still invest in BC no matter what happens with TM because they need BC to make money for their current projects. Thats a CEO that puts things in the right perspective. But you and your AB cronies seem to think taking a divisive approach will work and blame BC when its rejected. You on the other hand think you can use the constitution like a sword when its really a shield. Get it through that melon of yours - its the AB approach to this that is causing the problems. Edited April 19, 2018 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: no, you need to understand, business deals need partners. Kinder Morgan understands that, even now they say they'll still invest in BC no matter what happens with TM because they need BC to make money for their current projects. Thats a CEO that puts things in the right perspective. But you and your AB cronies seem to think taking a divisive approach will work and blame BC when its rejected. You on the other hand think you can use the constitution like a sword when its really a shield. Get it through that melon of yours - its the AB approach to this that is causing the problems. No, the do nothing approach has failed for decades and cost Canadians a fortune. It's over. No one cares about kinder morgan wanting a plumbing job in BC. It's about breaking free of American chains and KM may ultimately be complicit. Edited April 19, 2018 by mightycpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, mightycpc said: No, the do nothing approach has failed for decades and cost Canadians a fortune. It's over. sure, BC has the best ranked economy in Canada cuz its all do nuttin' here http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/economy.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 you need to listen to what you're being told. If AB stops trying to act like an entitled bully and more like an actual business partner you'd get what you want. And yet somehow I can guess your response... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: You’re that young? Didn’t expect that. In the same instance you’re doing the exact same thing. Living in the past. It’s been 6 years since canucks have been any good. Since 2013 flames have the off series under their belt with 3, where canucks and oilers only have two rounds. Either way point is, no Alberta or B.C. teams have much to brag about. We have a bright future. The Alberta teams are stuck in Oil sludge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mightycpc said: No, the do nothing approach has failed for decades and cost Canadians a fortune. It's over. Do nothing approach. Decades hmmmm Ok. With Harper in power for almost 14 years federally. The PCs in power forever in Alberta and a Conservative party in everything but name in BC for 16 years. Im hearing you say straight up that Canadian Conservatives are ultimately useless failures. The timelines the track records the math. All adds up. Youre right. They have been useless Edited April 19, 2018 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: sure, BC has the best ranked economy in Canada cuz its all do nuttin' here http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/provincial/economy.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 you need to listen to what you're being told. If AB stops trying to act like an entitled bully and more like an actual business partner you'd get what you want. And yet somehow I can guess your response... BC economy is dependent on home prices in Vancouver being high and Chinese investment. No help to most people. BC has no right to set up blockades against other provinces. People in Alberta don't get money by living in Alberta, they get it from working. Go there and get a job if you need to. Edited April 19, 2018 by mightycpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightycpc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Do nothing approach. Decades hmmmm Ok. With Harper in power for almost 14 years federally. The PCs in power forever in Alberta and a Conservative party in everything but name in BC for 16 years. Im hearing you say straight up that Canadian Conservatives are ultimately useless failures. The timelines the track records the math. All adds up. Youre right. They have been useless Yes, that is what I am saying. The better gov'ts are Liberal because they pander to conservatives. But none have been great. Edited April 19, 2018 by mightycpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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