Fred65 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I see according to this ranking system Rathbone is project to be better than Juolevi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Fred65 said: I see according to this ranking system Rathbone is project to be better than Juolevi Rathbone is going to be a fabulous player, much like Dennis Potvin. He’s got elite skating and skills, plus he has a mean streak. Juiolevi will be a quietly efficient player, much like Guy Lapoint. And then we have Quinn Hughes playing like Bobby Orr. These three on D, with Depietro in goal, Bo/Pettersson/Jake/Brock and Jack Hughes up front, it’s obvious JB is building a dynasty like those old Islander, Habs, and Bruins. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I see according to this ranking system Rathbone is project to be better than Juolevi According to this ranking system, Rathbone's point totals for this season are more impressive than Juolevi's based on age and league. It is not in any way saying that Rathbone projects to be a better than Juolevi. If Rathbone continues to be ranked highly by this system, then it would reasonable to suggest that he could turn into a better point producer than Juolevi. Stats and ranking systems such as these are useful if one can use them without jumping to conclusions that aren't actually made by said stat/ranking system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: According to this ranking system, Rathbone's point totals for this season are more impressive than Juolevi's based on age and league. It is not in any way saying that Rathbone projects to be a better than Juolevi. If Rathbone continues to be ranked highly by this system, then it would reasonable to suggest that he could turn into a better point producer than Juolevi. Stats and ranking systems such as these are useful if one can use them without jumping to conclusions that aren't actually made by said stat/ranking system. That may be true and I suspect you're correct, but like judging opponents or players you can only play the game or look at the stats provided for what they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Core Pettersson Horvat Boesser virtanen gaudette Stetcher Hughes juolevi Demko fingers crossed for rathbone, woo, Lind, Gadjo, Dahlen, Jasek, Palmu, Brisebois DiPietro, Chsttefield good transitional core edler, Tanev, Hutton, Guddy sutter, Roussel, Beagle, Granlund guys who should prob be moved in next year if they do not cement a spot: hutton, Baertschi, Goldy JB needs to trade Edler then re sign him - this would be a huge move for the franchise. He is still our best d man sadly. Overall future looks bright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, The_Rocket said: https://twitter.com/nhlrankking/status/1071427898572201984?s=21 three Canucks in the top PNHLe scores for defensive prospects... Woo, Rathbone, and of course Hughes (who is tied for #2). Actually 4 Canucks....Oli is ranked to low though.... Rathbone slotted in between SAndin and Boqvist ....that is a bit surprising, but I can see a more complete player than Boqvist.... Also I can see Quinn reeling in Fox by the end of the season....his game is trending up big time...! Edited December 8, 2018 by Rollieo Del Fuego 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Important to note that Fox has two extra years of development on Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Important to note that Fox has two extra years of development on Hughes. Curious as to where the two years of development comes from.......shouldn't it be one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Important to note that Fox has two extra years of development on Hughes. PNHLe scores adjust for age, league, position etc. It’s a way to put all prospects on equal footing. However, Fox has been having an unprecedented season and was up to over 2.5 ppg at the NCAA level at one point, but since has regressed to just under 2 ppg. hughes meanwhile started out quite slow offensively (relatively speaking) but after a handful of games he remembered he’s found his scoring touch and now he and fox are tied for first in NCAA defense scoring (fox in 11 games played and Hughes in 20). As the season rolls along, fox will likely regress a bit more and probably hughes to an extent as well, but they’re much more equal than the scores would suggest. Sample size and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Just now, Rick Blight said: Curious as to where the two years of development comes from.......shouldn't it be one? Fox 2016 draft, hughes 2018 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: Curious as to where the two years of development comes from.......shouldn't it be one? Just going by draft years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, The_Rocket said: Fox 2016 draft, hughes 2018 draft. Yeah, but when it comes to development Hughes is a 2nd year NCAA player and Fox is a 3rd year player. I guess two years apart in the draft could suggest two extra years of development but I am not sure I buy that in this case since they are only a year apart at the NCAA level and only a year apart when they played in the USHL as well. Anyways, that explains the two years...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: Yeah, but when it comes to development Hughes is a 2nd year NCAA player and Fox is a 3rd year player. I guess two years apart in the draft could suggest two extra years of development but I am not sure I buy that in this case since they are only a year apart at the NCAA level and only a year apart when they played in the USHL as well. Anyways, that explains the two years...... yeah its more to do with NHL eligibility than college eligibility. since Fox is a February 1998 birthday and Hughes is a October 1999 birthday, Fox is considered 2 years ahead. for example, Hughes and Makar are both sophomores, but Makar is over 11 months older than hughes. mMkar was eligible for the NHL one year before Hughes was. Also, because Makar is older is PNHLe score is lower than Hughes's, even though he has a higher Points per game Edited December 8, 2018 by The_Rocket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 hours ago, BCNate said: I feel that Quinn Hughes is the 3rd best player in the Canucks organization right now, behing Bo and EP, ahead of Brock and Virt. He is going to change the entire look of this team when he signs. Can't believe we have him. We haven't ever had a defenseman that has the gamebreaking skill and skating ability he does. He could be, but he needs to play a few games first! To be honest, not many teams have ever had a d man that can skate like Hughes. They are some of the rarest of players. Coffee, Leetch and Housley come to mind. All shifty guys that are more like 4th forwards than d men. That was also the knock against them too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 7 hours ago, BCNate said: I feel that Quinn Hughes is the 3rd best player in the Canucks organization right now, behing Bo and EP, ahead of Brock and Virt. He is going to change the entire look of this team when he signs. Can't believe we have him. We haven't ever had a defenseman that has the gamebreaking skill and skating ability he does. He could be, but he needs to play a few games first! To be honest, not many teams have ever had a d man that can skate like Hughes. They are some of the rarest of players. Coffee, Leetch and Housley come to mind. All shifty guys that are more like 4th forwards than d men. That was also the knock against them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Fred65 said: I see according to this ranking system Rathbone is project to be better than Juolevi I get really high on about one less covered prospect of ours every year. Last year it was Gaudette, this year it is Rathbone. The kid has seriously impressed me with what he is able to do. I think he's gonna be a bonafide top 4 one day and he might even be top two with Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 No points for Quinn tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dungass said: No points for Quinn tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Let's hope he dominates the draft class, like EP the yr before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Let's hope he dominates the draft class, like EP the yr before! can't name a better drafted dman doing better then him right now, not in the NHL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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