RetroCanuck Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: It could be tough to make Utika this fall if there is no player movement up or out: Brisebois Rafferty Juolevi. Chatfield Teves. Sautner Eliot All Canuck prospects! and all pretty good. Usually AHL defences have three or four older AHL club signees on the D. We played most of the year with Canuck signees, on occasion with one or two Utica signees. Woo may have to start in the ECHL, just as MacEneny and Eliot did. Though Imwould not be surprised to see Rafferty move up if Tanev does not re-sign or if Stetcher is moved. Though, if Tryamkin is signed (Tryamkin can play either side) that might be another block in the way of upward movement. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see a substantially different D in Vancouver this fall. Biggest thing last year (this year?) was that we remained completely healthy on the back end and therefore couldn't audition any of our younger players without potentially messing with our playoff chemistry. Although I would have personally preferred to see Rafferty, Brisebois or Juolevi get some games instead of Fanta or Benn when their play was down. I don't think we can keep Tanev unless we are allowed to compliance buy out Eriksson and Sutter. That opens a spot for Tryamkin and allows some competition within the bottom 3. Though if we do manage to resign Tanev to a short term deal (will only be injured more often as he ages) then we could trade Stecher. Hughes-Myers Edler-Rafferty Tryamkin-Stecher Benn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) On 4/12/2020 at 4:56 AM, Ray_Cathode said: It could be tough to make Utika this fall if there is no player movement up or out: Brisebois Rafferty Juolevi. Chatfield Teves. Sautner Eliot All Canuck prospects! and all pretty good. Usually AHL defences have three or four older AHL club signees on the D. We played most of the year with Canuck signees, on occasion with one or two Utica signees. Woo may have to start in the ECHL, just as MacEneny and Eliot did. Though Imwould not be surprised to see Rafferty move up if Tanev does not re-sign or if Stetcher is moved. Though, if Tryamkin is signed (Tryamkin can play either side) that might be another block in the way of upward movement. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see a substantially different D in Vancouver this fall. I'd be pretty shocked to not see one of Rafferty, Brisebois, Juolevi or Sautner on the big team next year. Even if it's just Sautner as 7th. I also think Woo, (assuming he shows well) could easily bump Teves or Eliot. Edited April 15, 2020 by aGENT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray_Cathode Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 9:50 AM, aGENT said: I'd be pretty shocked to not see one of Rafferty, Brisebois, Juolevi or Sautner on the big team next year. Even if it's just Sautner as 7th. I also think Woo, (assuming he shows well) could easily bump Teves or Eliot. Up till the point Teves got hurt this year in Utica, he was the best defensive D there. Not the same guy afterward, maybe lingering effects of the injury. Coming season, though, and a chance to heal and train may see his game return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: Up till the point Teves got hurt this year in Utica, he was the best defensive D there. Not the same guy afterward, maybe lingering effects of the injury. Coming season, though, and a chance to heal and train may see his game return. And if so, we have some good depth to potentially trade. Either way, I'm not seeing the 'problem' with fitting Woo in. He's our own high draft pick who's trending well. They'll make sure his development is a priority so long as he continues to trend well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: Up till the point Teves got hurt this year in Utica, he was the best defensive D there. Not the same guy afterward, maybe lingering effects of the injury. Coming season, though, and a chance to heal and train may see his game return. didn't he end up in Kalamazoo? granted I didn't watch anything but highlights out of Utica but this is the first I've heard of Teves being Utica's best defence man. 6 minutes ago, aGENT said: And if so, we have some good depth to potentially trade. Either way, I'm not seeing the 'problem' with fitting Woo in. He's our own high draft pick who's trending well. They'll make sure his development is a priority so long as he continues to trend well. It would be surprising to me if Woo didn't make Utica next season. I also can't see how Teves cracks the left side on the Canucks. I guess he could get picked off waivers but why? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: didn't he end up in Kalamazoo? granted I didn't watch anything but highlights out of Utica but this is the first I've heard of Teves being Utica's best defence man. It would be surprising to me if Woo didn't make Utica next season. I also can't see how Teves cracks the left side on the Canucks. I guess he could get picked off waivers but why? We're pretty crowded at D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinyoureyesontheprize Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hopefully he can turn into a Bieksa type player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 4:53 PM, Setyoureyesontheprize said: Hopefully he can turn into a Bieksa type player I would hope he's far better defensively. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post flickyoursedin Posted April 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: I would hope he's far better defensively. I think if he becomes anything close to Bieksa we should be extremely happy. Only about 30% of all 2nd round picks become NHL players and Bieksa was good enough for 10+ seasons in the NHL. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 8:29 AM, Jimmy McGill said: didn't he end up in Kalamazoo? granted I didn't watch anything but highlights out of Utica but this is the first I've heard of Teves being Utica's best defence man. It would be surprising to me if Woo didn't make Utica next season. I also can't see how Teves cracks the left side on the Canucks. I guess he could get picked off waivers but why? Teves was a large part of Rafferty's success in the first half of the season. Usually playing together, he was the defensive conscience of that pairing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Googlie said: Teves was a large part of Rafferty's success in the first half of the season. Usually playing together, he was the defensive conscience of that pairing interesting. Losing Teves didn't effect BR's production at all tho, just checked and he had 22 pts in the 1st half, 23 pts in the second 1/2 of his season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: interesting. Losing Teves didn't effect BR's production at all tho, just checked and he had 22 pts in the 1st half, 23 pts in the second 1/2 of his season. True. - although he did replace Ollie on the 1st unit PP when Juolevi went down with injury. And his +/- did take a bit of a hit when he lost Teves (as did Teves when he returned. - iirc he wasn't paired with Rafferty those last few games). They were a formidable pair together, although I do see Rafferty coming to the Canucks before Teves. I could see him thriving paired with Edler next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_19 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 What's the likelihood Woo makes the cut for Utica next year assuming they have another season this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 10:49 AM, Googlie said: True. - although he did replace Ollie on the 1st unit PP when Juolevi went down with injury. And his +/- did take a bit of a hit when he lost Teves (as did Teves when he returned. - iirc he wasn't paired with Rafferty those last few games). They were a formidable pair together, although I do see Rafferty coming to the Canucks before Teves. I could see him thriving paired with Edler next season I thought Teves became the forgotten man in Utica and I believe some one mentioned that he didn't look quite right after his return from injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 9:58 AM, AK_19 said: What's the likelihood Woo makes the cut for Utica next year assuming they have another season this year? I don’t see why he wouldn’t? Id say 95% he will be a comet next year. If they play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) On 5/29/2020 at 2:32 PM, Fred65 said: I thought Teves became the forgotten man in Utica and I believe some one mentioned that he didn't look quite right after his return from injury I'd like to know what happened with Teves too. He was looking so good early in the season, almost on par with Rafferty, then seemed to drop off the Utica radar completely part way through the season. Edited May 31, 2020 by Captain Canuck #12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Woo is going to be a polarizing player for me. I'm looking forward to tracking his progression as a pro. Imo, he's going to be an important piece to Vancouvers future success. He may never become an offensive star but, who knows? He could become more the player he was in his draft year. If we get a Tanev type with higher intensity, I'd call picking him a win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, komodo0921 said: Woo is going to be a polarizing player for me. I'm looking forward to tracking his progression as a pro. Imo, he's going to be an important piece to Vancouvers future success. He may never become an offensive star but, who knows? He could become more the player he was in his draft year. If we get a Tanev type with higher intensity, I'd call picking him a win. Plays more like a 'Bieksa' than a 'Tanev' IMO. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, komodo0921 said: Woo is going to be a polarizing player for me. I'm looking forward to tracking his progression as a pro. Imo, he's going to be an important piece to Vancouvers future success. He may never become an offensive star but, who knows? He could become more the player he was in his draft year. If we get a Tanev type with higher intensity, I'd call picking him a win. I could be wrong but I tend to think Woo may have regressed. Twice he failed to make the Cdn WJC roster, that's not inspiring, heck I think Focht came closer to making the team. We can all hope that maybe the pro game may suit him better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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