flickyoursedin Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, S N Y P E R S 7 said: I mean, I saw Broberg compared to Virtanen in the way he thinks the game... I like him a lot, but he has to get smart. That’s something I would not want to gamble with in the top 10. I’d be fine with a lot of different names at 10 but Broberg is the one guy I really do not want. He just seems limited offensively and feel like there’ll be a better forward at the time of the pick. Don’t need to select a number 2 dman with a top 10 pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Alflives said: If Turcotte is the Next Patrice Bergeron, please let him come to us. Bergeron has to be one of the most underrated players in the league. How many Selkes has he won or been nominated for.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, hammertime said: How many Selkes has he won or been nominated for.? I tried figuring it out on Google. It looks like 8 nominations and 4 awards. If Turcotte is half that successful he’s one heck of a player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Boldy has insane dangles and vision. Definitely not a Lucic comparable. I always felt Cozens-Getzlaf Krebs-Skinner Podk-Laine Zegras-Giroux Broberg-Edler Caufield-Debrincat Soderstrom-Ellis Boldy-Wheeler Turcotte-Bergeron Now these of course are playing styles and high ceiling outcomes. I don’t think every player becomes this comparable. Cozens-Getzlaf Yes please Krebs-Skinner Yes please Podk-Laine Yes please Zegras-Giroux Yes please Broberg-Edler Yes please Caufield-Debrincat Yes please Soderstrom-Ellis Yes please Boldy-Wheeler Yes please Turcotte-Bergeron Definitely Yes please Would be happy with any one of those because the Canucks can use any one of them, and would make a nice addition to Pettersson Hughes Horvat Boeser. What would be a comparable with Newhook? Edited May 7, 2019 by AlwaysACanuckFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, Alflives said: I tried figuring it out on Google. It looks like 8 nominations and 4 awards. If Turcotte is half that successful he’s one heck of a player. https://www.nhl.com/bruins/news/patrice-bergeron-named-2018-frank-j-selke-trophy-finalist/c-298102174 BOSTON - The National Hockey League announced today, April 19, that Boston Bruins forward Patrice Bergeron has been named a finalist for the 2018 Frank J. Selke Trophy. Los Angeles Kings forward Anze Kopitar and Philadelphia Flyers forward Sean Couturier are the other two finalists for the award, which is given annually to the forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game. The winner is selected in a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association at the end of the regular season, and will be announced at the NHL Awards in Las Vegas on June 20. Bergeron, who served as alternate captain for the Bruins for the 12th straight season in 2017-18, recorded 30 goals and 33 assists for 63 points with 26 penalty minutes and a plus-21 rating in 64 games this year. He ranked fifth in the league in faceoff win percentage (57.3, min. 1,000 faceoffs), 12th in faceoffs won (784), third in even strength faceoff win percentage (58.0, min. 500 faceoffs won), first in shorthanded faceoff win percentage (58.3, min. 50 faceoffs won). The 32-year-old forward also ranked second overall in the team puck possession metric SAT (shot attempts differential), with a 57.56%. This is the seventh straight season Bergeron has been named a Selke finalist. The 6-foot-1, 195-pound centerman is the only active player to win the award four times, taking home the trophy in 2012, 2014, 2015 and 2017. Bergeron and Hall of Fame forward Bob Gainey of the Montreal Canadiens are the only two players in NHL history to win the award four times. Gainey was the first recipient of the award in 1978 and also won the award the following three seasons in 1979, 1980 and 1981. The L'Ancienne-Lorette, Quebec native was selected by the Bruins in the second round (45th overall) of the 2003 NHL Entry Draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: What would be a comparable with Newhook? I can't say from personally watching him, as I haven't seen a whole lot of these players outside of highlights, but Barzal is a name I've heard pop up a few times when talking about Newhook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Boldy has insane dangles and vision. Definitely not a Lucic comparable. I always felt Cozens-Getzlaf Krebs-Skinner Podk-Laine Zegras-Giroux Broberg-Edler Caufield-Debrincat Soderstrom-Ellis Boldy-Wheeler Turcotte-Bergeron Now these of course are playing styles and high ceiling outcomes. I don’t think every player becomes this comparable. Can't say I see the Laine/Pod comparison. Podkolzins defining characteristic is he gives 110% every shift. That exact thing is the knock on Laine. What was it about him that made them your choice? I like the Russian a lot and I'm excited about the idea he may drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: I can't say from personally watching him, as I haven't seen a whole lot of these players outside of highlights, but Barzal is a name I've heard pop up a few times when talking about Newhook. I'm not good with comparisons, but that makes sense. He completely controlled the games I seen him in Victoria, and skates incredibly well. I would not be disappointed at all with him at 10, but I think he goes between 12-14 myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, shayster007 said: Can't say I see the Laine/Pod comparison. Podkolzins defining characteristic is he gives 110% every shift. That exact thing is the knock on Laine. What was it about him that made them your choice? I like the Russian a lot and I'm excited about the idea he may drop. Yeah I don't see the Laine/Pod comparison either. I see Podkolzin more as a Marian Hossa type player myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 8 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Boldy has insane dangles and vision. Definitely not a Lucic comparable. I always felt Cozens-Getzlaf Krebs-Skinner Podk-Laine Zegras-Giroux Broberg-Edler Caufield-Debrincat Soderstrom-Ellis Boldy-Wheeler Turcotte-Bergeron Now these of course are playing styles and high ceiling outcomes. I don’t think every player becomes this comparable. Interesting comparisons, but these are their ceilings, I wonder what comparables their floors would be to determine how risky a pick would be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Alflives said: In the games I watched Zegras play, I found him to be not at all like that. If we do draft him, I hope I'm completely wrong. I kind of thought this guy is like Hunter Shinkaruk, who I really didn't like at his draft. I'd really like us to get a guy who is feisty though. We definitely need more of that in our players. Cheers Alf. In this draft a Shinkaruk would be a massive disappointment. Time will tell... some many interesting prospects. Who will deliver.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I havent followed any of these players but it seems like we have a deep draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngguns19 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 18 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: I think so too. He's been given a real hard time from some fans over the last couple of years (myself included), but Benning drafted him very high for a reason. He is taking longer to develop, but once he gets here, I think his calm, cool and collected play with force people to forget about how long it took. He was also one of the youngest in his draft class, almost a 2017pick. Throw in the 2 major injuries and its easy to see why he hasn't made it yet. Besides what is he barely 20 FFS lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 13 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Boldy has insane dangles and vision. Definitely not a Lucic comparable. I always felt Cozens-Getzlaf Krebs-Skinner Podk-Laine Zegras-Giroux Broberg-Edler Caufield-Debrincat Soderstrom-Ellis Boldy-Wheeler Turcotte-Bergeron Now these of course are playing styles and high ceiling outcomes. I don’t think every player becomes this comparable. I feel like Broberg's floor is Edler and his ceiling someone like Brent Burns. Again, I won't be surprised if Broberg is tried at forward sometime in his career. He resembles a forward when I watch him play, he's thinking like one. And he can get up the ice quicker than most forwards on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted May 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Odd. said: I feel like Broberg's floor is Edler and his ceiling someone like Brent Burns. Again, I won't be surprised if Broberg is tried at forward sometime in his career. He resembles a forward when I watch him play, he's thinking like one. And he can get up the ice quicker than most forwards on the ice. You think that the worst player Broberg could possibly become is the best defensman this franchise has ever seen. So if his development stalled right now he'd still be at par with Edler is what you're saying. Odd. Edited May 7, 2019 by 73 Percent 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) On 5/5/2019 at 11:38 PM, NUCKER67 said: Oh darn, I never considered that he could be taken before #10. Now I have a bad feeling he could be wearing an orange jersey next year. They need good D badly too. Won't be able to make fun of them long, once Holland signs on. I'm hoping the Canucks get Broberg, but I wonder about this Seider guy too. Haven't seen him play a game, or much video. Kind of mysterious. I did read somewhere that he is expected to be the best Dman to come out of Germany (including Ehrhoff). Not sure how accurate that is, or if someone can shed more light on him. That's what I love abut Benning taking Pettersson over Glass. He took the best player, regardless of how others might've ranked Pettersson. I could see him taking a player a lot of us haven't seriously considered. Button pegged the Canucks to take Harley. I find that very surprising. I believe that Seider will represent Germany at the upcoming Worlds in Slovakia. He will face one of the best NHL forwards in the games against Team Canada (May 18) and Team USA (May 19). Headcoach of team Germany has not made his final decision about the roster, yet. Today they will play Team USA (with Jack & Quinn Hughes) in a pre worlds game at Mannheim, Germany. Edited May 7, 2019 by Wolfgang Durst typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: You think that the worst player Broberg could possibly become is the best defensman this grancise has ever seen. So if his development stalled right now he'd still be at par with Edler is what you're saying. Odd. This granchise has seen some pretty good defenseman but the aging elder Edler will be re-upped on his way to the old age home. And Brobergs comparables are Edler, except Broberg is faster and that’s what the new NHL wants (at least for now). Unfortunately his actual floor is the AHL and ceiling is maybe a little better than Edler. Aside from only a couple guys in the top ten there really is no guarantees. The list earlier on this page listing a murderers row of all-stars as comparisons for the predicted top ten is never going to happen. A few might make that lofty ceiling, a few somewhere between that and busts. And some that come later might end up like Pastrnak or Boeser. If we draft Broberg he will be Edlers replacement, and that’s a smart move. But it definitely doesn’t mean he’s going to be much better than him, he’s prone to defensive gaffes which lines up well, has size too, but his best asset is his skating he’s swift and very mobile. Boldy is a sniper and we need another one of those and think is the safer pick. I think Benning will surprise us again but it will be someone who’s slipped that he goes for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 16 hours ago, Alflives said: In the games I watched Zegras play, I found him to be not at all like that. If we do draft him, I hope I'm completely wrong. I kind of thought this guy is like Hunter Shinkaruk, who I really didn't like at his draft. I'd really like us to get a guy who is feisty though. We definitely need more of that in our players. At age 16 Shinkaruk was an absolute star. 49 goals and WHL 91 points two years before he was drafted. I remember being so excited when we drafted him! He had potential to be a great pick! I also remember seeing a picture of him with his shirt off at prospect camp. Beside Jordan Subban & Bo, who were both ripped. It set me off right away. Sloppy & it was obvious. I wondered how a guy could show up without having put the same work in? You cannot take it for granted. I'm sure most scouts have a pretty good idea whats what, before the combines? But since that year I started paying attention. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: At age 16 Shinkaruk was an absolute star. 49 goals and WHL 91 points two years before he was drafted. I remember being so excited when we drafted him! He had potential to be a great pick! I also remember seeing a picture of him with his shirt off at prospect camp. Beside Jordan Subban & Bo, who were both ripped. It set me off right away. Sloppy & it was obvious. I wondered how a guy could show up without having put the same work in? You cannot take it for granted. I'm sure most scouts have a pretty good idea whats what, before the combines? But since that year I started paying attention. I doubt Phil Kessel was ever really ripped and he's made quite a career for himself. You never know what player you'll get as many players of all shapes and sizes make the NHL for whatever reason. But yes Shinkaruk has been a disappointment, but he had some early injuries that set him back and maybe he couldn't get out of that funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 i heard that kalliyev’s comparison was goldobin. they say, super skilled but doesn’t bring it often enough. i get it. can’t wait for the draft book to come out. they have comparison for the top 2 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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