filthycanuck Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Im not sold on Dach or Cozens, I think they are just ok, players, I don't see why they are so highly rated. Peyton Krebs is gonna be a good one, Im not sure his upside is high, but he'll carve out a pretty good career, think Brendan Gallagher. I think Alex Turcotte is going to be a superstar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 8:57 AM, Smashian Kassian said: Zegras is alot quicker than Pettersson, That is hard to do. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, gurn said: That is hard to do. Pete's improved. Quicker than Pettersson was in his draft year for sure. Edited April 3, 2019 by Smashian Kassian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) Funny how I make a 2019 Top 10 draft pick Thread, and now we are discussing it...... If you look at that, you will see a) each individuals choices and b) a consensus pick for that position, aka 1st pick, 2nd pick, 3rd pick, etc....which was what I was trying to do. (GO VOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T) So look at that thread as a representative of the different NHL GM's , all different, but yet there is still a consensus at each pick...….. Although that does not mean that New York Rangers, or the Edmonton Oilers are going to take the consensus pick, in their position or that they are wrong and that is the point...…..your beautiful may not be my beautiful...….but on CDC, everyone else thinks I am ugly! lol Edited April 3, 2019 by janisahockeynut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 We are currently sitting #9. We are 3 points up on Edmonton & no games in hand, so its unlikely we fall lower than that. Here's my top 15 as of now: 1. Kakko 2. Hughes 3. Dach 4. Byram 5. Turcotte 6. Podkolzin 7. Cozens 8. Soderstrom 9. Krebs 10. Zegras 11. Boldy 12. Heinola 13. Caufield 14. York 15. Kaliyev So our potential slots are 1-3 & 9-12. Here's what I think at each spot: #1 - if we win its Hughes. Not going to debate who I'd prefer. Would be beyond shocked if the Nucks pass on the 2nd Hughes bro. IMO Kakko is better right away, Hughes has a higher ceiling long term. Both could play next year & be great for a long time. #2 - Perfect spot to be in. Take whoever doesn't go #1. #3 - Take Byram ---------------- #9-12 - Unless there's a faller, Soderstrom. Not elite #1 upside, but good Top 4 D are hard to find if you don't draft em. And if not him, then a FWD obviously. Krebs / Boldy / Zegras / Caufield would be the names for me. I flip flop on the order, but Krebs is probably the guy I like most. Although if we're closer to 12 than 9 there may only be 1 or 2 of them available. Any of them would be a good addition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: Funny how I make a 2019 Top 10 draft pick Thread, and now we are discussing it...... If you look at that, you will see a) each individuals choices and b) a consensus pick for that position, aka 1st pick, 2nd pick, 3rd pick, etc....which was what I was trying to do. (GO VOTE IF YOU HAVEN'T) So look at that thread as a representative of the different NHL GM's , all different, but yet there is still a consensus at each pick...….. Although that does not mean that New York Rangers, or the Edmonton Oilers are going to take the consensus pick, in their position or that they are wrong and that is the point...…..your beautiful may not be my beautiful...….but on CDC, everyone else thinks I am ugly! lol your not ugly, your just not as pretty as the rest of us. wait, i’ll drink a couple of beers and you’ll look better. cheers lad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: We are currently sitting #9. We are 3 points up on Edmonton & no games in hand, so its unlikely we fall lower than that. Here's my top 15 as of now: 1. Kakko 2. Hughes 3. Dach 4. Byram 5. Turcotte 6. Podkolzin 7. Cozens 8. Soderstrom 9. Krebs 10. Zegras 11. Boldy 12. Heinola 13. Caufield 14. York 15. Kaliyev So our potential slots are 1-3 & 9-12. Here's what I think at each spot: #1 - if we win its Hughes. Not going to debate who I'd prefer. Would be beyond shocked if the Nucks pass on the 2nd Hughes bro. IMO Kakko is better right away, Hughes has a higher ceiling long term. Both could play next year & be great for a long time. #2 - Perfect spot to be in. Take whoever doesn't go #1. #3 - Take Byram ---------------- #9-12 - Unless there's a faller, Soderstrom. Not elite #1 upside, but good Top 4 D are hard to find if you don't draft em. And if not him, then a FWD obviously. Krebs / Boldy / Zegras / Caufield would be the names for me. I flip flop on the order, but Krebs is probably the guy I like most. Although if we're closer to 12 than 9 there may only be 1 or 2 of them available. Any of them would be a good addition. I'm definitely not one for diminutive players, but there's something about Caufield that strikes a chord for me. He's got dynamic game changer written all over him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 In our range for me it’s Krebs, Boldy, Soderstrom and Caufield (he’s tiny but it’s hard to ignore those numbers and dynamic play). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, stawns said: I'm definitely not one for diminutive players, but there's something about Caufield that strikes a chord for me. He's got dynamic game changer written all over him. Yeah he's a real interesting case. The idea of adding a 5'6 player with our 1st pick isn't appealing to me either but that kid can score goals. You'll never mistake what he brings, he's gotta score to be successful. DeBrincat scored 40, can Caufield score 40? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Yup....not going to comment on someone else's picks...…..their opinion, their right! In saying that...….this game is way too fickled to be taking high risk picks at the 9/10/11 spot The pro game takes too many changes in direction for that...…. Krebs...……....LW...…….fast, 200 fter, high IQ, great passer Boldy……...….LW...…….high IQ, goal scorer, good passer Sodertsrom…..RHD...….Right side Edler...………..and there is nothing wrong with that Just going to say, that the game is more than just scoring goals, and if we are looking for the best choice, I will yield to Benning But I want Boldy or Krebs I just wonder how Krebs would,look on the USND team? I mean he is ranked higher than Boldy….I don't know, one of these 2 for me. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: We are currently sitting #9. We are 3 points up on Edmonton & no games in hand, so its unlikely we fall lower than that. Here's my top 15 as of now: 1. Kakko 2. Hughes 3. Dach 4. Byram 5. Turcotte 6. Podkolzin 7. Cozens 8. Soderstrom 9. Krebs 10. Zegras 11. Boldy 12. Heinola 13. Caufield 14. York 15. Kaliyev So our potential slots are 1-3 & 9-12. Here's what I think at each spot: #1 - if we win its Hughes. Not going to debate who I'd prefer. Would be beyond shocked if the Nucks pass on the 2nd Hughes bro. IMO Kakko is better right away, Hughes has a higher ceiling long term. Both could play next year & be great for a long time. #2 - Perfect spot to be in. Take whoever doesn't go #1. #3 - Take Byram ---------------- #9-12 - Unless there's a faller, Soderstrom. Not elite #1 upside, but good Top 4 D are hard to find if you don't draft em. And if not him, then a FWD obviously. Krebs / Boldy / Zegras / Caufield would be the names for me. I flip flop on the order, but Krebs is probably the guy I like most. Although if we're closer to 12 than 9 there may only be 1 or 2 of them available. Any of them would be a good addition. Agree on your top 3, think that’s how management would approach a lotto win as well. if we pick 9-12 leaving with one of: krebs/zegras/boldy That would be a pretty fantastic outcome! im high on all three but especially Krebs. Boldy had a good interview today on 650 too, was really honest and sounds like a good kid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 So, just reading Smashian Kassian's post....not commenting on that, but I wonder why, all ranking agencies have Caulfield lower in the rankings than Boldy and Krebs I think everyone is looking through DeBrincat glasses...….got to be careful to look right at him, no glasses.....IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Yup....not going to comment on someone else's picks...…..their opinion, their right! In saying that...….this game is way too fickled to be taking high risk picks at the 9/10/11 spot The pro game takes too many changes in direction for that...…. Krebs...……....LW...…….fast, 200 fter, high IQ, great passer Boldy……...….LW...…….high IQ, goal scorer, good passer Sodertsrom…..RHD...….Right side Edler...………..and there is nothing wrong with that Just going to say, that the game is more than just scoring goals, and if we are looking for the best choice, I will yield to Benning But I want Boldy or Krebs I just wonder how Krebs would,look on the USND team? I mean he is ranked higher than Boldy….I don't know, one of these 2 for me. If Krebs was on that team his numbers would be just as ridiculous as all those kids are. He’d fit right in and be one of the top players I’m sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 If we are picking 12th overall and all the obvious picks are gone and it’s between caufield / kaliyev / Newhook I think that’s a tough decision Newhooks a C but the bchl factor is strong then his poor Canada camp has really stuck with me, but at the same time good players do come out of this league like Makar it’s juat harder to rank them caufield is tiny but doesnt shy away from contact which is scary for a small guy in the NHL kaliyevs an offensive weapon but defensively he’s kinda like goldobin, I see him as a goldobin with finish so you’d put up with defensive lapses cause he scores / generates more then he makes mistakes. He could improve though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, janisahockeynut said: So, just reading Smashian Kassian's post....not commenting on that, but I wonder why, all ranking agencies have Caulfield lower in the rankings than Boldy and Krebs I think everyone is looking through DeBrincat glasses...….got to be careful to look right at him, no glasses.....IMO Its hard ignore Caufield breaking the NTDP goal record while DeBrincat scores 40 goals. But still size is a consideration. Things haven't been working out for Yamamoto. Ultimately Caufield's gotta score alot to be a player. Krebs & Boldy bring more to the table than just goal scoring. The balancing act is weighing Caufield's goal-scoring potential & his likeliness of hitting it, versus a safer pick with thsoe other guys. I do think Caufield will move up the rankings soon (certainly on Bobby Mac's list). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Yup....not going to comment on someone else's picks...…..their opinion, their right! In saying that...….this game is way too fickled to be taking high risk picks at the 9/10/11 spot The pro game takes too many changes in direction for that...…. Krebs...……....LW...…….fast, 200 fter, high IQ, great passer Boldy……...….LW...…….high IQ, goal scorer, good passer Sodertsrom…..RHD...….Right side Edler...………..and there is nothing wrong with that Just going to say, that the game is more than just scoring goals, and if we are looking for the best choice, I will yield to Benning But I want Boldy or Krebs I just wonder how Krebs would,look on the USND team? I mean he is ranked higher than Boldy….I don't know, one of these 2 for me. Yeah these would all be great picks. Krebs on a better WHL team would look better. His physical skills don't blow you away but with that IQ & character, there's just something about him. Don't think Boldy is as much of a play driver as Krebs but more size. He'd be a nice complimentary piece to Horvat or Pettersson & Boeser. Soderstrom is more like Anton Stralman IMO. Full package TWD really. Had Heinola ahead of him originally but Soderstrom has more of a physical edge & is probably more polished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: So, just reading Smashian Kassian's post....not commenting on that, but I wonder why, all ranking agencies have Caulfield lower in the rankings than Boldy and Krebs I think everyone is looking through DeBrincat glasses...….got to be careful to look right at him, no glasses.....IMO Well, he's a gpg player, those are the glasses you look through. I'll admit I'm going off video scouting, but he looks like he likes playing in the dirty areas and is successful doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: Yup....not going to comment on someone else's picks...…..their opinion, their right! In saying that...….this game is way too fickled to be taking high risk picks at the 9/10/11 spot The pro game takes too many changes in direction for that...…. Krebs...……....LW...…….fast, 200 fter, high IQ, great passer Boldy……...….LW...…….high IQ, goal scorer, good passer Sodertsrom…..RHD...….Right side Edler...………..and there is nothing wrong with that Just going to say, that the game is more than just scoring goals, and if we are looking for the best choice, I will yield to Benning But I want Boldy or Krebs I just wonder how Krebs would,look on the USND team? I mean he is ranked higher than Boldy….I don't know, one of these 2 for me. I actually think the org is at the stage where they could take a risk on a 9/10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Looks like we're pretty much locked into 9th overall position unless some miracles happen here in the next 6 days. Just for fun, here are the last 9th overall picks.... I had to look a long way down to find the first guy that didn't turn into an above average NHLer. 2018 Vitali Kravtsov 2017 Michael Rasmussen 2016 Michail Sergachev 2015 Timo Meier 2014 Nicholaj Ehlers 2013 Bo Horvat 2012 Jacob Trouba 2011 Dougie Hamilton 2010 Mikael Granlund 2009 Jared Cowen 2008 Josh Bailey 2007 Logan Couture 2006 James Sheppard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, stawns said: I actually think the org is at the stage where they could take a risk on a 9/10 pick. But the thing is with high risk, high reward draft picks is that it is all or nothing...…. or at least that is what I would be afraid of, not that your points are not valid......not too many gpg players available anywhere...…. But that is about where you and me stop agreeing, because I seriously do not think we are there yet...…….but I see your POV from where you stand.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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