RUPERTKBD Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Those of us that remember the Queen of the North will attest that cancelling a sailing is preferable to sailing while understaffed.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 G7 summit takes place this weekend 100 kilometer south of Munich at the castle Ellmau close to the Alps. Cost for this summit is estimated at 180 Million Euro mostly because of the security requirements. Leaders of the G7 countries fly in Munich and the take a ride with the helicopter of the German federal police to Ellmau. This event is secured by more than 20,000 policemen. President Biden with a special treatment lodging not in a suite in the hotel but in a separate building with the entire brass from the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Wolfgang Durst said: G7 summit takes place this weekend 100 kilometer south of Munich at the castle Ellmau close to the Alps. Cost for this summit is estimated at 180 Million Euro mostly because of the security requirements. Leaders of the G7 countries fly in Munich and the take a ride with the helicopter of the German federal police to Ellmau. This event is secured by more than 20,000 policemen. President Biden with a special treatment lodging not in a suite in the hotel but in a separate building with the entire brass from the States. Yeah, one wonders if anything that comes out of these summits is commensurate with the costs.... Still, at least with Germany hosting, we know that Scholz doesn't own the castle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 11:06 AM, thedestroyerofworlds said: In a press conference outside the British Embassy in New York, his brother Gabriel Shipton said they would take his appeal to the European Court of Human Rights if not successful in the UK's High Court. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61839256 Julian Assange can be extradited, says UK home secretary He committed no crime. Just embarrassed the US military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) On 6/24/2022 at 3:59 PM, RUPERTKBD said: Those of us that remember the Queen of the North will attest that cancelling a sailing is preferable to sailing while understaffed.... Having sailed on QotN multiple times the route they take and the ones the ferries take from the mainland to the Island are not even comparable. Also wasn't the QotN run aground as staff were &^@#ing on shift? Edited June 27, 2022 by Gnarcore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Having sailed on QotN multiple times the route they take and the ones the ferries take from the mainland to the Island are not even comparable. Also wasn't the QotN run aground as staff were &^@#ing on shift? That's the story. They ran into Gil Island, because the two people on watch were too "busy" to hear an alarm (which may have been turned down, or off) and make a course correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 I watched the coast guard vessel sail into Prince Rupert with the rescued passengers..... ....If I had to describe how they looked, I'd use the phrase "Shell shocked".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Gnarcore said: Having sailed on QotN multiple times the route they take and the ones the ferries take from the mainland to the Island are not even comparable. Also wasn't the QotN run aground as staff were &^@#ing on shift? 3 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said: That's the story. They ran into Gil Island, because the two people on watch were too "busy" to hear an alarm (which may have been turned down, or off) and make a course correction. They were a former couple, she wasn't qualified to be on the bridge, without another helmsman standing by. Newly replaced bridge equipment, with less than two hours of training on the various pieces; including the unit they turned off because they couldn't figure out how to dim it down. Whole thing came down to an auto pilot screw up. Officer of the watch gave a series of small course corrections to go around Gill Island in small bits rather than one major alteration. However the quartermaster would input the new course heading-but did not know they had to push the set button. The display would show the course asked for, but after not getting the 'set' signal, would return to the previous heading. Loss of situational awareness- the pair of them ASSUMED they were on the newest course, when they were not. Even with those screw ups-they nearly miss Gill Island, just got close enough to put a gash in the side, rather than plowing straight into the land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, gurn said: the unit they turned off because they couldn't figure out how to dim it down. Cause they wanted mood lighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, gurn said: They were a former couple, she wasn't qualified to be on the bridge, without another helmsman standing by. Newly replaced bridge equipment, with less than two hours of training on the various pieces; including the unit they turned off because they couldn't figure out how to dim it down. Whole thing came down to an auto pilot screw up. Officer of the watch gave a series of small course corrections to go around Gill Island in small bits rather than one major alteration. However the quartermaster would input the new course heading-but did not know they had to push the set button. The display would show the course asked for, but after not getting the 'set' signal, would return to the previous heading. Loss of situational awareness- the pair of them ASSUMED they were on the newest course, when they were not. Even with those screw ups-they nearly miss Gill Island, just got close enough to put a gash in the side, rather than plowing straight into the land. And luckily for them, the people of Hartley Bay were around, or it could have been a far worse tragedy.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, bishopshodan said: Cause they wanted mood lighting? It's actually a pretty common complaint with seagoing vessels.....back when I sold Navigation software and charts to fishermen, brightness filters were one of the more asked for items. Apparently, when you're running in total darkness, computer screens are uncomfortably bright.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Cause they wanted mood lighting? If the screen is too bright, and you spend time looking at it, it takes a bit for your eyes to adjust to the outer darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: It's actually a pretty common complaint with seagoing vessels.....back when I sold Navigation software and charts to fishermen, brightness filters were one of the more asked for items. Apparently, when you're running in total darkness, computer screens are uncomfortably bright.... 10 minutes ago, gurn said: If the screen is too bright, and you spend time looking at it, it takes a bit for your eyes to adjust to the outer darkness. Was it just a rumour that they were humping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Was it just a rumour that they were humping? I don't know that it's ever been proven, but AFAIK they were both fired and the story is pretty commonly accepted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 39 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Was it just a rumour that they were humping? AFAIK Court case -The Officer gets convicted Transport Canada Investigation BC Ferries internal investigation Nothing about 'frolicking' on the bridge was proven, or even mentioned/suggested at these 3 levels, to my knowledge. Makes for a really good story though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, gurn said: If the screen is too bright, and you spend time looking at it, it takes a bit for your eyes to adjust to the outer darkness. Pirates had eye patches so one eye would be used to the dark for going below deck and they'd the patch to the other eye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: but AFAIK they were both fired Both fired and the Officer did jail time, lives in the interior somewhere now. And a few heads rolled, at Human resources for that area, as the QM wasn't qualified but was sent anyway. If the ship had no choice but to use this person, it should have been during the day, and under the supervision of the master-and she should have been kicked off the boat at the next port. It is very rare for a tragedy to be from only one cause. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, gurn said: AFAIK Court case -The Officer gets convicted Transport Canada Investigation BC Ferries internal investigation Nothing about 'frolicking' on the bridge was proven, or even mentioned/suggested at these 3 levels, to my knowledge. Makes for a really good story though. Thanks for the info...I just recall that chatter at the time lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Pirates had eye patches so one eye would be used to the dark for going below deck and they'd the patch to the other eye Going up to the bridge to steer, at night I always closed one eye, till I reached the bridge-and never relieved at the wheel till I could see properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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