Popular Post Lancaster Posted March 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2021 13 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Easier said then done. Plus, don't expect that all Canadians of Chinese heritage to shun the actions of the ccp. I know of a few people who are chest-thumping blind ccp-supporting nationalists who are also 2nd+ generation Canadians, who don't carry a Chinese passport. The proposed actions you suggested don't address the core issue, which is to force the ccp to change its behaviour of blatant human rights abuses and authoritarian bullying. Going after a population (that is neither homogenous in its belief system nor its political stance) based on their extraction or heritage is misguided at best, and genocidal at worst. We're supposed to be better than that. Tell me about it. Anytime I see people who have been here longer than China and yet they still drink the CCP kool-aid. Usually they use the faux-ethnic nationalism as some justification for being pro-CCP or something. It drives me crazy.... I know being Canadian means you're allowed to have differing opinions, but when your opinion is 180 degrees from what Canada represents... what are you doing in Canada anyways? Canadians born here or born abroad needs to really ask themselves what it means to be Canadian. Is it just a passport or is it an ideal? When people plead their allegiance when getting their citizenship, it means they believe in Canada, the Charter of Rights and Freedom, etc.... if it's just lip service... maybe they should be denied citizenship. Any time anyone asks me "Are you Chinese?" my answer.... "No, I am ethnically Chinese, but I'm 100% Canadian". 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Lancaster said: Tell me about it. Anytime I see people who have been here longer than China and yet they still drink the CCP kool-aid. Usually they use the faux-ethnic nationalism as some justification for being pro-CCP or something. It drives me crazy.... I know being Canadian means you're allowed to have differing opinions, but when your opinion is 180 degrees from what Canada represents... what are you doing in Canada anyways? Canadians born here or born abroad needs to really ask themselves what it means to be Canadian. Is it just a passport or is it an ideal? When people plead their allegiance when getting their citizenship, it means they believe in Canada, the Charter of Rights and Freedom, etc.... if it's just lip service... maybe they should be denied citizenship. Any time anyone asks me "Are you Chinese?" my answer.... "No, I am ethnically Chinese, but I'm 100% Canadian". One might suggest that there is a more sinister purpose in their presence. Influencing public policy from within is probably more effective than China intimidating from without. IMHO theCCP is very good at managing their long term goals. Canada is entirely reliant on the USA defensive umbrella. At the rate the USA is deteriorating Canada could lose that protection on key strategic interests in the North. All three of the USA, Russia and China have ambitions on Canadian sovereignty there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I'd probably refer to myself as Cantonese Canadian on the census, because Cantonese is my heritage and Canada is my home. Or just call your self Canadian on the census. Sometimes that is not an option, so I write it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 15 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I guess to a certain degree, those that are born here but are sycophants or fanboys of the ccp regime - they aren't burdened by the oath their parents or other forebearers made. They probably feel their citizenship can't be stripped from them because they have it by virtue of birth in the country. As for that last question, my wife will proudly say that she is a HKer (and refuses to be called Chinese), and for the next census, she'd probably insist on being referred to as such. I can't refer to myself as a HKer, because my ties to there are very peripheral and indirect. I'd probably refer to myself as Cantonese Canadian on the census, because Cantonese is my heritage and Canada is my home. You are confusing ethnicity with citizenship. You can be ethnically Chinese and not a Chinese citizen. Your wife can call herself whatever she wants but she is ethnically and culturally a Chinese person. Cantonese is a language like Mandarin and not a ethnic group. So you can't call yourself a Cantonese Canadian anymore can someone call themselves Mandarin Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 So this guy commits rape, giving this poor woman worst case of anal injuries that the hospital has seen. Out of prison in 1 year, oh Canada, your justice system system should be re named to injustice system because it sucks. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sexual-assault-deportation-1.5977578 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: So this guy commits rape, giving this poor woman worst case of anal injuries that the hospital has seen. Out of prison in 1 year, oh Canada, your justice system system should be re named to injustice system because it sucks. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sexual-assault-deportation-1.5977578 Canada is the most passive country when it comes to wielding punishment on truly sick people. It's truly embarrassing that this is how innocent citizens are protected by their pathetic justice system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Doctor Bonnie is going to shut the entire province down tonight as they are currently holding a vote. Three weeks total lockdown is what is being mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Canada is the most passive country when it comes to wielding punishment on truly sick people. It's truly embarrassing that this is how innocent citizens are protected by their pathetic justice system. You know what I hate the most? Lot of these foreigners that do these types of acts in Canada, Australia, Scandinavia, Western Europe etc. would not dare to commit these acts back home. If he did this back in the old country, he would get a nice broom stick up his ass and knife into his gut. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 3:38 PM, DonLever said: You are confusing ethnicity with citizenship. You can be ethnically Chinese and not a Chinese citizen. Your wife can call herself whatever she wants but she is ethnically and culturally a Chinese person. Cantonese is a language like Mandarin and not a ethnic group. So you can't call yourself a Cantonese Canadian anymore can someone call themselves Mandarin Canadian. Well technically speaking, there is slightly different genetic differences.... hence there's Northern Han and Southern Han (Cantonese being the largest grouping). Northerners has more genetic influences from non-Han groups (Manchus, Mongols, Korean, etc)... whereas Southern Han does share some genetic link with those from Vietnam. A stereotypical Northern Han person would look slightly different from someone who is the stereotypically Southern Han. To use an European analogy... maybe someone who is from Brittany. They're technically a different ethnic group from the standard French with different culture and even language, but usually just lumped in with those "cheese-eating surrender monkeys". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Canada is the most passive country when it comes to wielding punishment on truly sick people. It's truly embarrassing that this is how innocent citizens are protected by their pathetic justice system. Brother all of our legal systems can never by any stretch of the imagination be described as justice systems. Edited April 9, 2021 by Ilunga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, Ilunga said: Brother all of our legal systems can never by any stretch of the imagination be described as justice systems. Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 I see Russia has expanded their Artic claims against Canada and Denmark. Russia has expanded their military presence in Siberia to assert their claims. Meanwhile Canada’s military expenditure to assert our sovereignty has been a farce. As per usual Canada will depend on the American military to bail us out. False security as the Americans have their own interests in Canadian territory. At what point do we grow up as a country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: I see Russia has expanded their Artic claims against Canada and Denmark. Russia has expanded their military presence in Siberia to assert their claims. Meanwhile Canada’s military expenditure to assert our sovereignty has been a farce. As per usual Canada will depend on the American military to bail us out. False security as the Americans have their own interests in Canadian territory. At what point do we grow up as a country? Those that don’t feed their own army, will be forced to feed someone else’s army. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: I see Russia has expanded their Artic claims against Canada and Denmark. Russia has expanded their military presence in Siberia to assert their claims. Meanwhile Canada’s military expenditure to assert our sovereignty has been a farce. As per usual Canada will depend on the American military to bail us out. False security as the Americans have their own interests in Canadian territory. At what point do we grow up as a country? Russia isn't the Soviet Union no more. Sure much of the same suspects are still in charge but as a threat, China should be the more feared force now & in the future. Even President Duterte probably realizes this now. Edited April 11, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 I wouldn't disagree that China is the bigger threat but China has no direct claims in the Artic. The new Russian claims go up to the 200 mile limit and include the Canadian artic shelf. That said the Russians have filed their claim with the UN and have included their supporting scientific material. Their claims do not include any American territory, just Canada and Denmark. Curious, right? I do not trust the Americans or Russians in this matter. IMHO Canada has hide behind the guise of being a minor player in the grand scheme of global relations. I don't swallow that. Canada is a country of 38 million people. Canada has resources coveted by countries around the world. Canada has to be prepared to defend itself and currently we cannot. National security always seems to be sacrificed to immediate need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Boudrias said: I see Russia has expanded their Artic claims against Canada and Denmark. Russia has expanded their military presence in Siberia to assert their claims. Meanwhile Canada’s military expenditure to assert our sovereignty has been a farce. As per usual Canada will depend on the American military to bail us out. False security as the Americans have their own interests in Canadian territory. At what point do we grow up as a country? I'm not sure what exactly you expect the government to do.... It's not like we could ever hope to rival the Russian military and while it's true that we might have the Americans on our side in such a dispute, it wouldn't be because of altruism on their part. The last thing they want to see is Russia holding sovereignty over the entire Arctic. (Or even a more significant amount) ...and just in case this is yet another Anti Trudeau rant, I'll also point out that this dispute has been going on for decades...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: I'm not sure what exactly you expect the government to do.... It's not like we could ever hope to rival the Russian military and while it's true that we might have the Americans on our side in such a dispute, it wouldn't be because of altruism on their part. The last thing they want to see is Russia holding sovereignty over the entire Arctic. (Or even a more significant amount) ...and just in case this is yet another Anti Trudeau rant, I'll also point out that this dispute has been going on for decades...... Did I mention Trudeau? I can always count on your kneejerk defense of this goof. I did not specifically but I will easily group him in with the history of Canadian leadership deferring to foreign power. What do I expect Canada to do? Clearly to defend Canadian interests in our sovereign territory. You appear willing to defer to the Americans which is a big mistake IMO. It is not a case of gunboat diplomacy yet, as the Russians have made their case to the UN. My concern is the Canadian military's ability to put actual boots on the ground (ice). At what point is the line drawn? I am sure the Ukrainians ask the question every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Boudrias said: My concern is the Canadian military's ability to put actual boots on the ground (ice) Why be concerned? What proof or evidence do you have that Canada can't protect the North? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Did I mention Trudeau? I can always count on your kneejerk defense of this goof. I did not specifically but I will easily group him in with the history of Canadian leadership deferring to foreign power. What do I expect Canada to do? Clearly to defend Canadian interests in our sovereign territory. You appear willing to defer to the Americans which is a big mistake IMO. It is not a case of gunboat diplomacy yet, as the Russians have made their case to the UN. My concern is the Canadian military's ability to put actual boots on the ground (ice). At what point is the line drawn? I am sure the Ukrainians ask the question every day. Firstly, no you didn't mention Trudeau. Hence the "just in case".....and the fact that you can't resist calling him a "goof" shows that I was correct to suspect your motivation. Second: What does "defend Canadian interests" mean? Specifically. You're whinging about not enough being done, so provide some specifics, rather than the hackneyed "do something" refrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, gurn said: Why be concerned? What proof or evidence do you have that Canada can't protect the North? I remember years back (20 years maybe?) there were Chinese subs operating in Canada's sovereign arctic waters. I don't think the DND knew about it under China just happened to admit, the US told, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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