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22 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Although that building is 40 years old, construction has been getting worse and worse.

From $&!#ty Chinese concrete, unqualified labor, low quality steel in rebars etc.

Roman viaducts are still around, no reason for new buildings to collapse but profit trumps quality nowdays.

 

I see what you did there, in your post about $&!#ty construction methods. :bigblush:

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3 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

and yet the Catholic Church doesn't think recognition and an apology is the way to go. 

They should have to apologise, pay reparations and have their tax exemption status revoked.

 

Update: they have found 751 graves in Sask. 

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1 hour ago, Gnarcore said:

About what I'd expect from a group of child molesters, misogynists and over all scumbags. 

 

11 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

They should have to apologise, pay reparations and have their tax exemption status revoked.

 

Update: they have found 751 graves in Sask. 

my guess is they'll never admit to wrongdoing, but hey the Vatican sure is shiny. 

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1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

 

my guess is they'll never admit to wrongdoing, but hey the Vatican sure is shiny. 

Nope

 

With regards to Miami, maybe this will be a wakeup call to all the politicos that American infrastructure both private and public is approaching par with 3rd world countries. Although I guess another handout and looking the other way is easier to do than anything else.

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2 minutes ago, canuckster19 said:

Nope

 

With regards to Miami, maybe this will be a wakeup call to all the politicos that American infrastructure both private and public is approaching par with 3rd world countries. Although I guess another handout and looking the other way is easier to do than anything else.

Take a drive through Montreal (and much of ?Quebec) and look at their overpasses and bridges built during the last fifty years.  They are literally crumbling and have nets hanging underneath to catch the falling concrete chunks from hitting the cars below.  It’s not just in the US where some things were built poorly.  

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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Take a drive through Montreal (and much of ?Quebec) and look at their overpasses and bridges built during the last fifty years.  They are literally crumbling and have nets hanging underneath to catch the falling concrete chunks from hitting the cars below.  It’s not just in the US where some things were built poorly.  

I don't know if it has to do with poorly built but more to do with complete lack of maintenance and using tax money for frivolous BS.

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6 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

So, is this basically like the CRTC mixed with forced Canadian content (like radio stations have to do)?

 

I'm not up to speed on it but is it designed to curb hate speech? and now individuals can be held accountable?

Since social media turns everyone into a broadcaster ( they have to define that designation though when it come to the internet..)

Is it that weird that they are trying to do this?... I dunno

 

I'm one of those that thinks that we have nothing close to freedom, so under the 'social contract' this doesn't surprise me.  

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2 minutes ago, canuckster19 said:

I don't know if it has to do with poorly built but more to do with complete lack of maintenance and using tax money for frivolous BS.

These are bridges and overpasses built in the 60’s and 70’s.  They are not so old they should be falling apart.  It’s a nightmare caused by poor construction, and some say corrupt officials.  

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/montreal-is-falling-down/

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This story makes me chuckle a bit. If you've been watching Real Time with Bill Maher over the last season, you'll understand why....

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/science/astronauts-complete-solar-panel-work-in-3rd-spacewalk/ar-AALrvZ0?li=AAgh0dA

 

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Astronauts finished unfurling a new pair of solar panels outside the International Space Station on Friday, making their third spacewalk in just over a week.

NASA's Shane Kimbrough and France's Thomas Pesquet successfully installed the second in a series of powerful solar wings that should keep the space station running the rest of this decade, as space tourism ramps up with visitors beginning in the fall.

“We have a lot of happy faces down here,” Mission Control radioed as power surged through the panel.

It should have been a two-spacewalk job, but spacesuit and other problems hampered the astronauts’ work on June 16. As a result, the first solar wing wasn't extended to its full length of 63 feet (19 meters) until Sunday. NASA added a third spacewalk for Friday to attach and unfold the second wing — this time everything went smoothly 255 miles (410 kilometers) up.

Once Pesquet released the final bolt, the newest solar wing unrolled like a giant stretch of wallpaper, high above the Bering Sea. It took 10 minutes for the slow but steady extension.

“Well done out there, buddy,” Kimbrough called out.

 

The upshot is, it takes roughly 2 years less to install Solar Panels in space, than it does in California....:lol:

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Condominium tower collapsed in Florida. 150+ people missing and 11 with non-fatal injuries. The collapse happened at about 1:30 a.m. Death toll at 4 but expected to rise. Fires slowing down rescue efforts. Report from 2018 warned of major structural damage and nothing was done. A class action lawsuit exceeding 5M has been filed by some of the residents.

 

So far...

 

 

 

Casualties

 

As of June 26, 2021, four people are known to have died during the collapse, and eleven more were injured. As many as 159 people remained unaccounted for.

 

At least 31 people from South America who resided in or were believed to be in the building at the time of the collapse were among the missing. Paraguay's Ministry of External Relations stated that the First Lady Silvana López Moreira's sister, her sister's husband, and their three children were missing. Another Paraguayan citizen was also missing. A first cousin of Chilean Air Force general Alberto Bachelet is believed to be missing, according to his daughter. The other missing people were identified as nine citizens from Argentina, six from Venezuela, six from Colombia and three Uruguayan citizens.

 

Additionally, 20 Israeli citizens were reported missing by Israel's consul general in Miami. Global Affairs Canada announced that four Canadians "may be affected" by the tragedy, without giving further details.  As of June 26, 2021, the only identified fatality is 54-year-old Stacie Fang, the mother of a 15-year-old boy who was rescued from the rubble shortly after the collapse.

 

Response

 

 

More than 80 rescue units responded to the collapse, according to the Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Department. Surfside mayor Charles Burkett said in a news conference that ten people were treated at the scene of the collapse and that two people were taken to the hospital, with one later dying. At least 35 people were rescued from the building on June 24 and as many as 159 people were unaccounted for. Miami-Dade County mayor Daniella Levine Cava called a state of emergency and called for Florida governor Ron DeSantis to do the same. Governor DeSantis viewed the site on the same day, and issued a state of emergency.

 

Federal

 

The White House and Federal Emergency Management Agency stated that they were in contact with local officials and providing assistance after the collapse. President Joe Biden was briefed on the event, and spoke with Miami-Dade County mayor Cava. 

 

International

 

Israel offered clothes, medication, food, water, and other aid to the victims of the collapse. At least 36 of the victims were Jewish, and several had Israeli "connections" according to Israeli Consul-General Maor Elbaz-Starinsky, who came to the scene on the day of the collapse and conveyed an official offer from the Israeli government to send the Israel Defense Force’s Home Front Command search and rescue team to assist in the rescue efforts. This Israeli search and rescue has assisted in many other disasters such as the 2017 Puebla earthquake, 2010 Haitian earthquake, Typhoon Haiyan, and others. Florida did not respond to the Israeli offer of aid until June 25, three days after the offer was made.

 

Israel’s President Reuven Rivlin said in a statement, “Our prayers are with the families anxiously waiting for news of their loved ones in Miami. We hope for the recovery of the survivors and send heartfelt condolences to those who have lost family members.” While Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett tweeted, “Our Foreign Ministry representatives in Miami and Israel are doing everything possible to assist and address the situation. The entire nation of Israel prays for the safety of those injured and missing in the disaster. From here we send support to our brethren in the Jewish community in particular, and to all Florida residents in general, and express our sorrow following this tragic event.” Israeli Foreign Minister and alternate Prime Minister Yair Lapid added, “Foreign Ministry staff in Miami and Israel are doing everything they can to help those on the ground, the wounded and the families. It is a difficult and complex event and it will take time to deal with it. We are at their [Americans] disposal for any assistance they may need.” Diaspora Affairs Minister Nachman Shai was dispatched from Jerusalem to assist in the recovery in Surfside. 

 

On June 25, Israeli search and rescue teams from the IDF’s Homefront Command were permitted to join the search for survivors. Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava said that people from Israel as well as Mexico have joined search-and-rescue groups. Workers from both countries rotate in and out as work teams sift through the rubble in two daily 12-hour shifts. 

 

Other organizations

 

The National Basketball Association's Miami Heat team helped state emergency workers at the site of the collapse. World Central Kitchen and Direct Relief, both of whom are recipients of the Heat's charitable arm, were also lending help.

 

American Red Cross volunteers assisted people displaced by the collapse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Overall a pretty $&!#ty situation out of nowhere.

 

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2021/06/25/what-we-know-so-far-about-the-florida-condo-building-collapse.html

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/death-toll-in-florida-collapse-rises-to-4-159-remain-missing-1.5485187

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfside_condominium_building_collapse

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20 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said:

Report from 2018 warned of major structural damage and nothing was done.

 

20 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said:

Overall a pretty $&!#ty situation out of nowhere

Not out of norwhere, who ever ignored that 2018 report should be facing criminal negligence causing homicide, at the least.

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7 minutes ago, gurn said:

 

Not out of norwhere, who ever ignored that 2018 report should be facing criminal negligence causing homicide, at the least.

Out of nowhere for the victims is where I was coming from. They're the ones reeling from the $&!#ty situation created by the actions of the few.

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3 minutes ago, 4petesake said:

I’m not sure if this video has been posted of the collapse as it happens.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I posted a link to it on Thursday....at the time I couldn't find it anywhere except embedded in a CNN article.

 

Thanks for posting. This makes it easier for everyone....

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On 6/24/2021 at 9:45 AM, Jimmy McGill said:

and yet the Catholic Church doesn't think recognition and an apology is the way to go. 

To be clear, I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but I think it would be naive to assume that some First Nations folks aren't taking matters into their own hands....

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/two-more-catholic-churches-burn-down-on-indigenous-land-in-southern-bc/ar-AALtKIL?li=AAggNb9
 

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Two more Catholic churches on Indigenous land in B.C.’s Interior burned to the ground early Saturday morning.

The latest were located on reserves in the Similkameen Valley, and come just days after two Catholic churches burned down on Indigenous land in the southern Okanagan.

Chief Keith Crow, of the Lower Similkameen Indian Band, said St. Anne’s Church on the Chuchuwayha reserve in Hedley and the Lower Similkameen Indian Band church were destroyed by fire at about 4 a.m.

He said the fires were suspicious and “possibly” linked to the other two in the Okanagan.

“Some of our members attend these churches, they just had a service a couple of weeks ago,” he said Saturday, as he was just preparing to leave in a caravan to go to the Kamloops Residential School Saturday to support the community after the remains of 215 Indigenous children  were found in unmarked graves at the school last month.

“Luckily no one was injured and the fire here was contained before it spread to any of the neighbouring homes,” said Crow.

Crow said the RCMP were investigating. Mounties have not yet returned calls asking for information about the investigation.

Two Catholic churches on Indigenous land — the Sacred Heart Church and St. Gregory’s Church —  in the southern Okanagan were destroyed by fire early Monday.

According to Penticton South Okanagan RCMP spokesman Sgt. Jason Bayda, an officer on patrol spotted fire coming from the Sacred Heart Church on Penticton Indian Band land at around 1:20 a.m.

 

Is it wrong if I hope they don't catch the culprits? :unsure:

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14 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

To be clear, I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but I think it would be naive to assume that some First Nations folks aren't taking matters into their own hands....

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/two-more-catholic-churches-burn-down-on-indigenous-land-in-southern-bc/ar-AALtKIL?li=AAggNb9
 

Is it wrong if I hope they don't catch the culprits? :unsure:

It's tough because the people of today are not the people of yesterday or tomorrow for that matter. They understandably want someone to blame but there's nobody to truly pin this on since these evil people are long-dead by now.

 

As I said before sometimes I wish we had time travelling machines.

 

Nevertheless the church should acknowledge that in it's past certain individuals that practice and share their same religious beliefs did commit heinous acts. Every group/race/religion has had certain contingents in it's past commit atrocities. No one are saints but we acknowledge and learn from our past so that we don't repeat those same mistakes and can help future generations be better.

 

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