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14 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

I wouldn't mind us declaring HK a province of Canada as well, but I'm certain the ccp would freak, and they'd probably send the pla here, skipping over Taiwan.

They don't, yet, have the navy to do that, but in about a decade it would be different.

Too much water to cross, and resupply/ gathering points  are impossible with the US holding most Pacific Islands.

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4 minutes ago, BoKnows said:

While we're at it might as well add Vermont, Maine, Minnesota, and Alaska to the list.  Alright that's enough world conquering for tonight :lol:

I'm open to almost anyone joining. Would have to be careful not to let countries with larger populations join, as a democracy we would quickly end up being the tail and not the brain.

AS Canada grows and people settle in, more would be invited to join

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6 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

So in other words, hold off letting California join until much, much, much later then, eh?  :gocan:

Unfortunately yes, it was on of my biggest problems with the "Cascadia" separation idea that bubbles up every so often.

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News from Kelowna:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/multiple-fatalities-after-crane-collapses-in-downtown-kelowna-police-say/ar-AAM4dYb?ocid=msedgntp

Multiple people are dead after a crane attached to a high-rise building under construction collapsed in downtown Kelowna, B.C., on Monday, police said.

 

“There are multiple confirmed fatalities and we are working to confirm all occupants and workers of the building and the worksite," said Inspector Adam MacIntosh of the Kelowna RCMP detachment.

“The crane fell to the north, striking the adjacent professional business building, causing damage. The crane also fell across the rear parkway, striking the roof to an old-age home.”

Read more: Emergency services are responding to a crane collapse in Kelowna on St. Paul and St. Bernard Avenue

Police would not say if the victims are workers or bystanders, stating that not all next of kin have been notified yet.

One person not connected to the worksite remains unaccounted for, MacIntosh said.

The Mission Group, a residential and commercial real estate developer, said the "catastrophic failure" occurred during the crane dismantling process.

"Mission Group expresses its deepest sympathy for the families of those affected by this tragedy," the company said in a written statement.

"We have set up support services to help those in need."

Read more: First hand accounts from the crane collapse in Kelowna, BC

BC Emergency Health Services (BC EHS) said 12 ground ambulances were dispatched to the scene, including two critical care teams.

Three patients were transported to hospital in stable, serious and critical condition.

The City of Kelowna has declared a local state of emergency in response to the threat to people and property caused by the crane collapse.

A 250-foot radius surrounding the building has been evacuated, in case the rest of the crane were to collapse, MacIntosh said.

Kelowna RCMP said the block of Bernard Avenue/St. Paul St/Doyle Ave/ Bertram Street is now closed to the public until further notice.

Read more: Kelowna condo fire: Site still off-limits because of construction crane concerns

"If you are in this area, please leave as soon as possible in a safe manner," said Cpl. Jocelyn Noseworthy in an emailed statement.

"Please remain away from this area at this time."

The apartment building where the incident occurred is called Brooklyn at Bernard Block.

Video: Construction crane collapses

The Central Okanagan Emergency Operations Centre has been activated.

Individuals evacuated from the area can go to the Salvation Army at 1480 Sutherland Avenue. Families of those injured or unaccounted for should go to the Parkinson Recreation Centre (McIntosh Room) at 1700 Parkinson Way.

The emergency operations centre (EOC) said a formal evacuation order has been issued for 547 – 612 Bernard Ave., 1450 – 1488 Bertram Street and 1441 – 1471 St. Paul Street.

"As an evolving situation, the incident site and its surrounding area remains unsafe and unstable. Road and sidewalk closures, including barricades, are in place to ensure safety. Residents and visitors are to stay out of the area," the EOC said in an emailed statement.

Impacted residents cannot return home and employees cannot return to their place of work until the order is lifted, the EOC said.

Interior Health said Kelowna General Hospital (KGH) issued a code orange alert, signalling a mass casualty event. It was stood down at approximately 1:00 p.m.

Witnesses said the massive crane collapsed at approximately 11:00 a.m. Video from the scene shows major damage to an adjacent building and at least one vehicle.

Read more: Damage reported after part of crane falls on downtown Toronto building

Authorities are asking motorists to stay away from the downtown core, as emergency responders deal with the "significant industrial incident."

Power has been disrupted to much of the downtown area and traffic is being re-routed, police said.

Dan Blocka, a part-time Kelowna resident, said he spotted the crane coming down.

“I just got on the bus at the Queensway bus depot to go to UBC and when I sat down looking east, a big part of a crane just tipped northward from Bernard going north," he told Global News.

“I was in shock looking up and seeing this thing go down.”

Read more: Weld failure caused 2019 collapse of Halifax construction crane during storm: report

WorksafeBC says its prevention and investigations teams are responding to the incident.

"The purpose of our investigation is to identify the cause of the incident, including any contributing factors, so that similar incidents can be prevented from happening in the future," the agency said in an email.

The cause of the collapse is under investigation.

 
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1 hour ago, CBH1926 said:

Personally i feel that sanctions should have been lifted years ago. Also Cuba getting caught in 1961 crisis was stupid. Unfortunately Cuban people are the ones that suffer and have suffered, Castro regime did good.


Months after the revolution Castro visited the US but was rebuffed by Eisenhower who wouldn’t meet with him. No doubt that Castro was a polarizing figure but he would have preferred to have a relationship with the US but refused to be subservient. He told VP Nixon that he would not beg for normalized relations. Cuba was in some ways pushed into the sphere of USSR who treated them with respect.

 

Castro’s record in Cuba is pretty mixed. He brought universal healthcare and literacy to the country but never managed to raise the masses out of poverty. Whether this is due to the nearly constant embargoes by the US on anybody who does business with them or their system of government or both is irrelevant to the Cuban people. Poverty is rampant and everyday items like toothpaste or candy are golden gifts, electricity is sporadic outside of the resorts.

 

People that we met on the streets were guarded and fairly ambivalent about Castro if they would say anything at all but weren’t shy about their love for Che Guevara. They loved Canadians and were eager to talk about life here, spoke nicely but more reserved about the US. 

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1 hour ago, 4petesake said:


Months after the revolution Castro visited the US but was rebuffed by Eisenhower who wouldn’t meet with him. No doubt that Castro was a polarizing figure but he would have preferred to have a relationship with the US but refused to be subservient. He told VP Nixon that he would not beg for normalized relations. Cuba was in some ways pushed into the sphere of USSR who treated them with respect.

 

Castro’s record in Cuba is pretty mixed. He brought universal healthcare and literacy to the country but never managed to raise the masses out of poverty. Whether this is due to the nearly constant embargoes by the US on anybody who does business with them or their system of government or both is irrelevant to the Cuban people. Poverty is rampant and everyday items like toothpaste or candy are golden gifts, electricity is sporadic outside of the resorts.

 

People that we met on the streets were guarded and fairly ambivalent about Castro if they would say anything at all but weren’t shy about their love for Che Guevara. They loved Canadians and were eager to talk about life here, spoke nicely but more reserved about the US. 

I always felt like Soviets played Fidel during that crisis.

Soviets were so behind the U.S in terms of nuclear arsenal and ability to deliver it.
They even felt that U.S was preparing first strike and that they might not even be able to counter it.

 

Missiles that they sent to Cubans would take a very long time to prepare and launch.

Satellites would have detected them way before the launch sequence.

In that case full invasion of Cuba would take place and even if they managed to get some missiles off, Cuba would be gone.

 

So while USSR got concessions and managed to get Jupiter nuclear missiles out of Italy and Turkey.
As well as being able to catch up to U.S nuclear Arsenal in 70s and 80s.

Castro made his island a launch pad for another country, and his would be wiped off from face of the earth if any nuclear missiles reached Florida. Not to mention 60 years of sanctions and poverty.

 

Reminds me of Poland and Romania drawing  a bullseye for Russian nuclear Iskanders located in Kalingrad.

This after they have decided to start housing the U.S missile shield.

We have a saying back home that goes, it’s easy to smack hawthorns with someone else’s dick.

 

 

 

 

 

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Add another to the pile of stories regarding wrongful convictions.

Man ordered released after 20 years:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/judge-exonerates-man-who-served-20-years-in-georgia-slayings/ar-AAMkpsX?ocid=msedgntp

BRUNSWICK, Ga. (AP) — A judge on Monday dismissed all charges against a man convicted of the 1985 slayings of a couple at a south Georgia church, exonerating him after he spent two decades behind bars, the man's attorneys said.

 

Glynn County Superior Court Judge Stephen Scarlett granted a motion by prosecutors to dismiss the case against Dennis Perry, 59. Scarlett last year gave Perry the chance for a new trial after DNA recovered from the crime scene matched a different suspect during reinvestigation of the case. He also ordered Perry's release from prison while prosecutors decided whether to refile charges.

Brunswick Judicial Circuit District Attorney Keith Higgins, who took office in January, decided not to pursue the case.

“There are times when seeking justice means righting a wrong,” Higgins said, according to WTLV-TV. “While this case was prosecuted prior to my administration, the new evidence indicates that someone else murdered Harold and Thelma Swain.”

Perry, who had maintained his innocence, said in a statement he “knew that eventually someone else would see the truth.”

"This indictment has been hanging over my head for over 20 years, and it’s such a relief to finally not have to worry about being accused of this awful thing,” he said.

The Swains were killed inside Rising Daughters Baptist Church in Waverly, Georgia, in 1985.

Perry was convicted in 2003 largely on the testimony of his ex-girlfriend’s mother, who said Perry had told her he planned to kill Harold Swain. The state didn’t disclose to the defense that the woman was paid $12,000 in reward money for her testimony. Perry received two consecutive life sentences in prison.

The new DNA evidence has cast suspicion on another man in the slaying. Authorities were led to that suspect after reporting by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution found his alibi was fabricated, Perry's attorneys say.

“We are thrilled that Dennis and his family can now begin the long process of recovery and healing," said Jennifer Whitfield, an attorney with the Georgia Innocence Project, which along with the King & Spalding law firm helped secure Perry's exoneration. “It takes so little to convict, and yet so much to undo a wrongful conviction.”

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6 minutes ago, gurn said:

Add another to the pile of stories regarding wrongful convictions.

Man ordered released after 20 years:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/judge-exonerates-man-who-served-20-years-in-georgia-slayings/ar-AAMkpsX?ocid=msedgntp

BRUNSWICK, Ga. (AP) — A judge on Monday dismissed all charges against a man convicted of the 1985 slayings of a couple at a south Georgia church, exonerating him after he spent two decades behind bars, the man's attorneys said.

 

Glynn County Superior Court Judge Stephen Scarlett granted a motion by prosecutors to dismiss the case against Dennis Perry, 59. Scarlett last year gave Perry the chance for a new trial after DNA recovered from the crime scene matched a different suspect during reinvestigation of the case. He also ordered Perry's release from prison while prosecutors decided whether to refile charges.

Brunswick Judicial Circuit District Attorney Keith Higgins, who took office in January, decided not to pursue the case.

“There are times when seeking justice means righting a wrong,” Higgins said, according to WTLV-TV. “While this case was prosecuted prior to my administration, the new evidence indicates that someone else murdered Harold and Thelma Swain.”

Perry, who had maintained his innocence, said in a statement he “knew that eventually someone else would see the truth.”

"This indictment has been hanging over my head for over 20 years, and it’s such a relief to finally not have to worry about being accused of this awful thing,” he said.

The Swains were killed inside Rising Daughters Baptist Church in Waverly, Georgia, in 1985.

Perry was convicted in 2003 largely on the testimony of his ex-girlfriend’s mother, who said Perry had told her he planned to kill Harold Swain. The state didn’t disclose to the defense that the woman was paid $12,000 in reward money for her testimony. Perry received two consecutive life sentences in prison.

The new DNA evidence has cast suspicion on another man in the slaying. Authorities were led to that suspect after reporting by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution found his alibi was fabricated, Perry's attorneys say.

“We are thrilled that Dennis and his family can now begin the long process of recovery and healing," said Jennifer Whitfield, an attorney with the Georgia Innocence Project, which along with the King & Spalding law firm helped secure Perry's exoneration. “It takes so little to convict, and yet so much to undo a wrongful conviction.”

His ex-girlfriend's mother should be thrown in the clink for the remainder of her life, if she's still alive

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38 minutes ago, Alflives said:

They got fined for wearing what?  This is so confusing.  It doesn’t make any sense, right?  

They got fined for not wearing skimpy bikini bottoms. It's cool that the Norwegian Handball Federation says that they will pay the fine for their team.

 

4 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

If I were part of a mens team, I would totally convince my teammates to show up in bikini bottoms in solidarity with the Norweigians.  I guarantee you the officials would disqualify us on the spot just to get us off the field of play with our... *ahem*... "inappropriate attire".

 

 

 

 

 

:bigblush:

Your idea reminds me of those cool school boys that showed up in skirts to support the girls in their school.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/boys-in-several-quebec-high-schools-wear-skirts-to-protest-dress-code-1.5755570

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11 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

If I were part of a mens team, I would totally convince my teammates to show up in bikini bottoms in solidarity with the Norweigians.  I guarantee you the officials would disqualify us on the spot just to get us off the field of play with our... *ahem*... "inappropriate attire".

 

 

 

 

 

:bigblush:


How dare Olympic beach volleyball players show up in shorts.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

Can't think of where best to place this, and I don't think it deserves its own thread, so I'm going to toss it here into the WET in hopes that the mention of Monty Python is worldly enough.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/glucosamine-sulfate-monty-python-class-action-1.6109894

 

Life can be stuffy, and court cases even stuffier, but I'm glad that the occasional case that hits the courts evokes enough of a sense of humour from the bench that even the stuffiest court cases can sometimes have its moment of levity, even if it's satire that is driving the humour.

Pining for the fjords.....

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This is some very brutal stuff, don't watch if you don't feel like being depressed. I hope the government isn't lying and all those people in the subway and stuck in their cars were saved.

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Some posters on here state we live in a time of unprecedented peace.

 

That we should not worry about the "old stockpile" of nuclear weapons.

 

Well maybe we should take heed of the bulletin of atomic scientists.

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-20/russia-conducts-missile-test-hypersonic-euro-atlantic-tsirkon/100308688 

 

Russia have been updating their nuclear weapons and delivery systems for years and now they have developed a delivery system that is both harder to detect and intercept.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

 

Some posters on here state we live in a time of unprecedented peace.

 

That we should not worry about the "old stockpile" of nuclear weapons.

 

Well maybe we should take heed of the bulletin of atomic scientists.

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-20/russia-conducts-missile-test-hypersonic-euro-atlantic-tsirkon/100308688 

 

Russia have been updating their nuclear weapons and delivery systems for years and now they have developed a delivery system that is both harder to detect and intercept.

 

 

China will push a country to using nukes.  

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