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On 8/3/2018 at 8:16 PM, oldnews said:

Yeah - I found the question he asked at the end to be interesting - 'will the Canucks need me in 2 years?'

 

Sounds like he's looking realistically and simply doesn't know - but is open to it - which is all you can really expect.

 

My fool's game guess though - is that if he continues to work as he did after getting that bit of a wake up call here, he'll be an NHL D here if he really wants to be, almost regardless of how well this team's young guys emerge.   With Edler and MDZ not really long term pieces at this point, and who knows how long term Tanev will be here, with Tryamkin able to play both sides (almost preferring his off-side), he has the unique toolbox and versatility to give himself a number of options.  As much as I like Pouliot, Stecher, Woo et al, I suspect that an experienced Tryamkin is just too compelling not to make a space for.

player development should also include helping/ assisting/ caring for his family situation in order to make it work...some players needs are different and Try has a young family that he cares about...management needs to support that in order to make it work, especially coming from a foreign land and different culture.

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21 hours ago, oldnews said:

That's a great point.

Goldbobin hasn't been gifted anything here - he's been given appropriately 'tough love' and expected to improve his game without the puck dramatically.

And he seems to have really responded well (as did Baer), making significant improvements.

 

There was a time not long ago when he may have been this team's best forward prospect (better than Shinkaruk for example) - and probably their best skilled forward prospect.  Different than and perhaps not as developed as Gaunce, but that's somewhat irrelevent as they play entirely different roles. 

 

He's been here as the team acquired a stable of other young forward prospects- and yet he still seems committed and determined - a really good sign.

 

It will be really interesting to see how he performs this fall - he showed some real potential breakout signs late last year.  I won't be surprised if he owns one of the spots open to competition - and really hope enough of these young guys step up and command spots to make moving a guy like Gagner a no-brainer.  (No contempt here for Gagner, but it's time for these young skilled guys to step up, own spots and nudge placeholders like Gagner out of the lineup).

now you're talking...it is time to let the young guns fly...since they have a stable full of vets backing them up...Gagner is redundant and in the way.

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8 hours ago, WeneedLumme said:

You're pretty funny. You remind me of the kid who bought my third car. He said "Ok, I'll take the car, now we just need to discuss the price." Needless to say he didn't get nearly as good a deal as he would have if he knew how to negotiate.

 

One of us has negotiated for a living for more than a third of a century. The other one obviously has virtually no negotiating experience, but really likes to share his ignorance on topics he knows nothing about.

Yeah yeah yeah. Says the guy comparing a boy buying his car with a negotiation between two sets of professionals (one set representing a young player who was so green he put a no AHL in his last contract.) 

I'm wasting no more time with you and your Walter Mitty delusions.

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On 2018-08-03 at 11:57 PM, The Lock said:

I know this thread is about Tryamkin, but I want to say that if Goldobin is trying to get Tryamkin back into the NHL, good on Goldobin, especially when one considers Goldobin doesn't exactly have a cushy job on this team. I think it really shows how much Goldobin actually wants to be an NHL player.

I mean, from a purely tactical standpoint if he knows the Canucks are high on Tryamkin and consider Goldobin a bargaining tool then he could simply be leveraging his situation to keep himself on the team. 

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18 hours ago, Pete M said:

now you're talking...it is time to let the young guns fly...since they have a stable full of vets backing them up...Gagner is redundant and in the way.

If a 'young gun' can't beat out Gagner he doesn't deserve the spot.

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So Tryamkin whats to come back because he likes the city ? Because he thinks we have a good team? He likes our coach? He has lots of friends in Vancouver? There are lots of Russian players on the team? His wife likes it here? He will win a cup here?

Pick which one of these questions is true .

LOL 

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1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

So Tryamkin whats to come back because he likes the city ?

He didn't like where he lived very much, but then it is downtown.

1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

Because he thinks we have a good team?

He wants to play more so he can help the team

1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

He likes our coach?

Does he even know the coach?

1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

There are lots of Russian players on the team?

Nyet

1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

His wife likes it here?

да

1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

He will win a cup here?

может быть

1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

Pick which one of these questions is true

никто, некоторые;)

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1 hour ago, vannuck59 said:

So Tryamkin whats to come back because he likes the city ? Because he thinks we have a good team? He likes our coach? He has lots of friends in Vancouver? There are lots of Russian players on the team? His wife likes it here? He will win a cup here?

Pick which one of these questions is true .

LOL 

If Tryamkin wants to be assured of a place on the team and ice time, he's going to be disappointed.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Crabcakes said:

If Tryamkin wants to be assured of a place on the team and ice time, he's going to be disappointed.

 

 

Players are assured spots on the team by one way contracts

 

any pro hockey athlete knows icetime is always earned

 

tree just wants the coach to treat the d men equally last time he got treated unfairly.  He knew it he left   Canuch coaching staff need to treat all the players fairly ... not only the vets 

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1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said:

Players are assured spots on the team by one way contracts

 

any pro hockey athlete knows icetime is always earned

 

tree just wants the coach to treat the d men equally last time he got treated unfairly.  He knew it he left   Canuch coaching staff need to treat all the players fairly ... not only the vets 

One way contracts don't assure a player a spot, just means they make the same in the AHL as they do in the NHL

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1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said:

Players are assured spots on the team by one way contracts

 

any pro hockey athlete knows icetime is always earned

 

tree just wants the coach to treat the d men equally last time he got treated unfairly.  He knew it he left   Canuch coaching staff need to treat all the players fairly ... not only the vets 

He didn't get treated unfairly. He showed up with the stamina of a non athletic person. He could barely skate for 20 seconds before being totally gassed.

 

I loved Tryamkin when he started playing better because he has unique qualities. But if he were to come back he needs to tow the company line, shut up, and play the game (for the millions he would get paid).

 

He is the typical millennial. He seems to think the world owes him something. Put in the work and get rewarded.

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50 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said:

He didn't get treated unfairly. He showed up with the stamina of a non athletic person. He could barely skate for 20 seconds before being totally gassed.

 

I loved Tryamkin when he started playing better because he has unique qualities. But if he were to come back he needs to tow the company line, shut up, and play the game (for the millions he would get paid).

 

He is the typical millennial. He seems to think the world owes him something. Put in the work and get rewarded.

Dream on

 

u really think he got gassed in 20 secs ?

 

that is hilarious 

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Just now, kingofsurrey said:

Dream on

 

u really think he got gassed in 20 secs ?

 

that is hilarious 

Huh? Go watch his first games. Maybe you don't watch hockey. If you did you would have seen what the other 18,000 fans saw. 

 

Weird post pal.

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1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said:

One way contracts don't assure a player a spot, just means they make the same in the AHL as they do in the NHL

Yeah , canucks have so many in utica on nhl one way contracts 

 

quality humor today 

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11 hours ago, Mathew Barzal said:

I mean, from a purely tactical standpoint if he knows the Canucks are high on Tryamkin and consider Goldobin a bargaining tool then he could simply be leveraging his situation to keep himself on the team. 

Perhaps, but I think that's overthinking a little: something CDC does a lot. lol

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27 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Yeah , canucks have so many in utica on nhl one way contracts 

 

quality humor today 

I guess Boeser is Utica bound with that 2 way contract of his :bigblush:

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If GMJB can pull of a trade for a earlier round pick or decent prospect for this guy, I say jump at it.

 

This team need players who want to play here and aren't introducing a whole lot of drama to things.

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Players last year in Utica with 1 way contracts, Megna, Chaput, and Biega

 

this coming season possibly Biega and Kero then tbd at training camp which and how many young guys push out established vets. 

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3 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Players are assured spots on the team by one way contracts

 

any pro hockey athlete knows icetime is always earned

 

tree just wants the coach to treat the d men equally last time he got treated unfairly.  He knew it he left   Canuch coaching staff need to treat all the players fairly ... not only the vets 

You are mistaken, players are assured the same salary with a one way contract and can play in the NHL, AHL, ECHL and still make the big bucks. 

 

Two way has different salary tiers based on which league the player is assigned to play in.

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