Book: UFOs by Leslie Kean - NY Times Bestseller

[bishopshodan]

On 2/9/2019 at 6:13 PM, MikeBossy said:

Anybody else watch this one yet:

 

 

Well, you know I did.

 

Same old spooky production from these types of docs. Ugh.

Lazar apparently passed a bunch of lie detectors and his name shows up on one of the phone lists for a US gov facility. He is also quite the scientist, or so this show would have you believe. 

That said, how can it be hard to get his school records? The most they said was they talked to some people who dropped him off at university...and all his employment records have been scrubbed?

hmm, was kinda interesting in parts, he has stuck to his story for decades. 

Spoiler

For those who are interested, Lazar claims to have worked on super secret US projects where they were trying to reverse engineer alien 'artefacts' . Anti gravity propulsion systems. 

 

[RUPERTKBD]

4 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Well, you know I did.

 

Same old spooky production from these types of docs. Ugh.

Lazar apparently passed a bunch of lie detectors and his name shows up on one of the phone lists for a US gov facility. He is also quite the scientist, or so this show would have you believe. 

That said, how can it be hard to get his school records? The most they said was they talked to some people who dropped him off at university...and all his employment records have been scrubbed?

hmm, was kinda interesting in parts, he has stuck to his story for decades. 

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For those who are interested, Lazar claims to have worked on super secret US projects where they were trying to reverse engineer alien 'artefacts' . Anti gravity propulsion systems. 

 

I generally disbelieve such stories, not because they're particularly implausible (which they often are) but because the government just doesn't seem to me to be that good at keeping secrets.

 

It's like the 9/11 "conspiracy"....you know it's bunk, because almost 20 years later we still haven't seen a credible whistle blower.

[Ronaldoescobar]

As long as these aliens follow the correct immigration procedures as set out by law we should all be ok. 

[MikeBossy]

4 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

Well, you know I did.

 

Same old spooky production from these types of docs. Ugh.

Lazar apparently passed a bunch of lie detectors and his name shows up on one of the phone lists for a US gov facility. He is also quite the scientist, or so this show would have you believe. 

That said, how can it be hard to get his school records? The most they said was they talked to some people who dropped him off at university...and all his employment records have been scrubbed?

hmm, was kinda interesting in parts, he has stuck to his story for decades. 

  Hide contents

For those who are interested, Lazar claims to have worked on super secret US projects where they were trying to reverse engineer alien 'artefacts' . Anti gravity propulsion systems. 

 

Lol I watched it too as I remember when he first came out with his story of working on alien technology. Interesting piece I found on him from another UFO expert:

 

http://www.stantonfriedman.com/index.php?ptp=articles&fdt=2011.01.07

[nucklehead]

Maybe we live in a "Galactic Zoo"

https://www.livescience.com/65063-meti-galactic-zoo-aliens.html

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Why hasn't Earth received any messages from extraterrestrials yet? Perhaps because we're already unwitting inhabitants in a so-called galactic zoo.

This was one of the scenarios a group of international researchers explored on March 18 at a meeting organized by the nonprofit organization Messaging Extraterrestrial Intelligence (METI). The gathering, which took place at the City of Science and Industry museum in Paris (Cité), brought together about 60 scientists who research the possibility of communication with hypothetical intelligent extraterrestrials.

There, they debated "The Great Silence" — why aliens haven't contacted us — exploring one possibility known as the "zoo hypothesis." First proposed in the 1970s, it describes Earth as a planet that is already under observation by "galactic zookeepers" who are deliberately concealing themselves from human detection, Forbes reported. [9 Strange, Scientific Excuses for Why Humans Haven't Found Aliens Yet]

"When we try to better understand the universe, the question of whether we are alone is unavoidable," meeting attendee Florence Raulin-Cerceau, an associate professor at the National Museum of Natural History in Paris, told Paris-Match.

That Earth would be the lone planet to evolve and host intelligent life among potentially billions of planets in our galaxy alone seems very unlikely. But if there are intelligent extraterrestrials out there, where are they, and why haven't we found them yet? This conundrum, posed in 1950 by Italian physicist Enrico Fermi, is known as Fermi's Paradox, and it still stymies experts today.

Fermi didn't live to see evidence of the first exoplanets, which were discovered decades after his death. Since 2014, NASA's Kepler space telescope has confirmed the existence of hundreds of distant worlds, and its findings have hinted at potentially 2,300 more. And yet, despite these exciting exoplanet discoveries, contact with extraterrestrials seems no closer now than it did in Fermi's day.

Under alien observation?

One explanation that scientists explored at the METI meeting, is that aliens are aware of Earth and are observing us as we would observe animals kept in a zoo, METI President Douglas Vakoch said in a workshop. If this is the case, humans should increase their efforts to create messages capable of reaching our "keepers," to demonstrate our intelligence, Vakoch explained.

For example, if a captive zebra were to suddenly tap out a pattern of prime numbers, humans would be required to re-evaluate their understanding of zebra cognition, "and we would be compelled to respond," according to EarthSky.

But what if we're not part of a vast alien zoo — what if, instead, humanity has been evaluated by alien civilizations, and subsequently "quarantined" from our galactic neighbors?

It's possible that extraterrestrials are actively isolating us from contact for our own good, because interacting with aliens would be "culturally disruptive" for Earth, meeting co-chair Jean-Pierre Rospars, honorary research director at the Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique (INRA), said in a workshop.

Of course, it's also likely that we haven't heard from aliens because they're locked under a layer of ice in subsurface oceans; trapped on massive "super-Earth" worlds by gravity's intense pull; or dead because their advanced civilizations have already destroyed themselves — as humanity might — through runaway consumption of their planet's natural resources.

Though, maybe if we want to hear from aliens we just need to relax and be patient. After all, Earth has been around for 4.6 billion years, while extraterrestrial research is less than 100 years old, Paris-Match reported.

 

 

[MikeBossy]

On 3/25/2019 at 10:00 PM, nucklehead said:

Maybe we live in a "Galactic Zoo"

https://www.livescience.com/65063-meti-galactic-zoo-aliens.html

 

I'll be honest - I was a huge believer as a kid that Aliens were visiting us. Now I am far more skeptical that they have visited earth (But I do believe we are not alone) however I always applaud seeing scientists investigate this as too much of the main stream scientific community has written these questions off (alien visitations and sightings) without proper investigation. My girlfriend laughs at some of the documentaries I watch but I love going down the Rabbit Hole once in a while. The zoo theory is definitely interesting to say the least. There is still a lot of unexplained things in our world and as far fetched as some seem I think they deserve scientific evaluation.

[RUPERTKBD]

This thread seems the best place for Science, as well as Science Fiction, so here's an interesting article on the latest "Space-Age" material, which has the potential to be revolutionary in the not too distant future:

 

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613267/borophene-the-new-2d-material-taking-chemistry-by-storm/

 

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Not so long ago, graphene was the great new wonder material. A super-strong, atom-thick sheet of carbon “chicken wire,” it can form tubes, balls, and other curious shapes. And because it conducts electricity, materials scientists raised the prospect of a new era of graphene-based computer processing and a lucrative graphene chip industry to boot. The European Union invested €1 billion to kick-start a graphene industry.

 

This brave new graphene-based world has yet to materialize. But it has triggered an interest in other two-dimensional materials. And the most exciting of all is borophene: a single layer of boron atoms that form various crystalline structures.

The reason for the excitement is the extraordinary range of applications that borophene looks good for. Electrochemists think borophene could become the anode material in a new generation of more powerful lithium-ion batteries. Chemists are entranced by its catalytic capabilities. And physicists are testing its abilities as a sensor to detect numerous kinds of atoms and molecules.

 

Today, Zhi-Qiang Wang at Xiamen University in China and a number of colleagues review the remarkable properties of borophene and the applications they might lead to.

Borophene has a short history. Physicists first predicted its existence in the 1990s using computer simulations to show how boron atoms could form a monolayer.

But this exotic substance wasn’t synthesized until 2015, using chemical vapor deposition. This is a process in which a hot gas of boron atoms condenses onto a cool surface of pure silver.

The regular arrangement of silver atoms forces boron atoms into a similar pattern, each binding to as many as six other atoms to create a flat hexagonal structure. However, a significant proportion of boron atoms bind only with four or five other atoms, and this creates vacancies in the structure. The pattern of vacancies is what gives borophene crystals their unique properties.

Since borophene’s synthesis, chemists have been eagerly characterizing its properties. Borophene turns out to be stronger than graphene, and more flexible. It a good conductor of both electricity and heat, and it also superconducts. These properties vary depending on the material’s orientation and the arrangement of vacancies. This makes it “tunable,” at least in principle. That’s one reason chemists are so excited.

Borophene is also light and fairly reactive. That makes it a good candidate for storing metal ions in batteries. “Borophene is a promising anode material for Li, Na, and Mg ion batteries due to high theoretical specific capacities, excellent electronic conductivity and outstanding ion transport properties,” say Wang and co.

Hydrogen atoms also stick easily to borophene’s single-layer structure, and this adsorption property, combined with the huge surface area of atomic layers, makes borophene a promising material for hydrogen storage. Theoretical studies suggest borophene could store over 15% of its weight in hydrogen, significantly outperforming other materials.

Then there is borophene’s ability to catalyze the breakdown of molecular hydrogen into hydrogen ions, and water into hydrogen and oxygen ions. “Outstanding catalytic performances of borophene have been found in hydrogen evolution reaction, oxygen reduction reaction, oxygen evolution reaction, and CO₂ electroreduction reaction,” say the team. That could usher in a new era of water-based energy cycles.

Nevertheless, chemists have some work to do before borophene can be more widely used. For a start, they have yet to find a way to make borophene in large quantities. And the material’s reactivity means it is vulnerable to oxidation, so it needs to be carefully protected. Both factors make borophene expensive to make and hard to handle. So there is work ahead.

But chemists have great faith. Borophene may just become the next wonder material to entrance the world.

 

 

[bishopshodan]

3 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

This thread seems the best place for Science, as well as Science Fiction, so here's an interesting article on the latest "Space-Age" material, which has the potential to be revolutionary in the not too distant future:

 

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613267/borophene-the-new-2d-material-taking-chemistry-by-storm/

 

 

Wow, thanks for posting

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I feel like I'm reading another chapter from the Three Body Problem. 

3 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

two-dimensional materials. And the most exciting of all is borophene: a single layer of boron atoms that form various crystalline structures.

So cool. The applications of nano-tech etc really interest me. Kaku goes on about it quite a bit. The future is amazing...and scary.

[RUPERTKBD]

13 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

Wow, thanks for posting

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I feel like I'm reading another chapter from the Three Body Problem. 

So cool. The applications of nano-tech etc really interest me. Kaku goes on about it quite a bit. The future is amazing...and scary.

Glad I wasn't boron ya.....

[drummer4now]

Realistically the only aliens are within the human race.. look up the differences between blood types RH+ and RH - peoples... 

The complexions are different and our overlord elite are all RH - i.e. royalty etc.. 

 

I myself is RH - and my appearance is completely different than my family. 

 

No conspiracy theorist kook. 

Edited April 10, 2019 by drummer4now

[RUPERTKBD]

So, scientists have (finally) captured a photo of a real black hole and it looks pretty much like we thought it would:

 

 

That glowing ring is actually not visible to the human eye because of the wavelength used to capture the image, so the color was added:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/technology/scientists-reveal-first-image-ever-made-of-a-black-hole/ar-BBVNxv8?li=AAggNb9

Edited April 10, 2019 by RUPERTKBD

[SabreFan1]

1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

So, scientists have (finally) captured a photo of a real black hole and it looks pretty much like we thought it would:

 

 

That glowing ring is actually not visible to the human eye because of the wavelength used to capture the image, so the color was added:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/technology/scientists-reveal-first-image-ever-made-of-a-black-hole/ar-BBVNxv8?li=AAggNb9

 

It's come out that the picture is a fraud.  It's actually a color shifted colonoscopy photo.

[Ronaldoescobar]

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[bishopshodan]

EDIT:

Different space stuff...

Life May Be Evolving on the Closest Alien Planet to Earth

 

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/289367-life-may-be-evolving-on-the-closest-alien-planet-to-earth

Edited April 12, 2019 by bishopshodan

[bishopshodan]

Aliens, ahoy! Navy developing guidelines on reporting UFO sightings

https://www.navytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/04/25/aliens-ahoy-navy-developing-guidelines-on-reporting-ufo-sightings/

The Aliens Among Us

An uptick in UFO sightings by military pilots raises all sorts of interesting questions.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-02/ufo-sightings-u-s-military-takes-them-seriously-you-should-too

 

 Recent articles Inline with the OP and Leslie Keans book, which is filled with reports from military and government officials.

 

 

[RUPERTKBD]

On 4/10/2019 at 9:23 AM, bishopshodan said:

EDIT:

Different space stuff...

Life May Be Evolving on the Closest Alien Planet to Earth

 

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/289367-life-may-be-evolving-on-the-closest-alien-planet-to-earth

The radiation angle is one of those things that seem to "rule out" a lot of exo-planets for harboring life, but as the article points out, Earth was once bathed in radiation and life still managed to flourish.

 

In quoting Jurassic Park's "life finds away", the author has hit the nail on the head. Just look at creatures on earth who manage to survive in the coldest of polar regions, in the hottest, driest deserts, at the bottom of the ocean under incredible pressures and even in proximity to underwater fumaroles....

 

I think that if there is life on Proxima B, it's at the microbial stage, meaning we've got a few billion years head start. However, the key isn't finding Vulcans at this point, it's finding life of any kind, proving that there is not only life out there, but lots of it. I think that if we prove the existence of life in our galactic next door neighbor, there has to be advanced civilizations out there among the trillions of planets in the cosmos.

[bishopshodan]

6 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

The radiation angle is one of those things that seem to "rule out" a lot of exo-planets for harboring life, but as the article points out, Earth was once bathed in radiation and life still managed to flourish.

 

In quoting Jurassic Park's "life finds away", the author has hit the nail on the head. Just look at creatures on earth who manage to survive in the coldest of polar regions, in the hottest, driest deserts, at the bottom of the ocean under incredible pressures and even in proximity to underwater fumaroles....

 

I think that if there is life on Proxima B, it's at the microbial stage, meaning we've got a few billion years head start. However, the key isn't finding Vulcans at this point, it's finding life of any kind, proving that there is not only life out there, but lots of it. I think that if we prove the existence of life in our galactic next door neighbor, there has to be advanced civilizations out there among the trillions of planets in the cosmos.

More and more articles on Titan lately... Wherever we do find life, it will be just amazing. I know it wont be Vulcans, but the dreams of advanced life out there will be invigorated. 

 

 

[bishopshodan]

I obviously get a kick out of this stuff, so here I am bumping this thread again.

 

A while ago we had the dude from Harvard "— Avi Loeb, chair of Harvard’s Astronomy Department"  Claiming that Oumuamua could be an alien light sail.

 

Now we have a instructor (teaches Korean) from Oxford giving lectures on some wild ideas. Human alien hybrids among us! 

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/space-aliens-are-breeding-humans-university-instructor-says-scientists-say-ncna1008971

 

I find this Oxford claim incredibly silly but I am often surprised where these statements and Ideas come from.... Harvard, Oxford, NASA, Military, Government, etc...

Just like the Keen book (OP)

 

I think we're just about ready for some Aliens! Or at least some more footage from those F-18 Super Hornets , I find that amazing. 

Edited May 27, 2019 by bishopshodan

[bishopshodan]

Have I mentioned that I like Alien stuff?

 

Anyway,

I guess they likely got here quite a while ago.

95% of life on our planet is smaller than your pinky finger.

Makes sense that the first organic alien life found here would be small too. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/wonder/signs-of-extraterrestrial-life-discovered-in-south-african-mountains/vi-AAC2wlh?ocid=ientp

[RUPERTKBD]

Once again, this is science rather than science fiction, but when reading about it, I was struck by how obvious an idea it was and how far behind we really are in this area....

 

I'm talking about the digital circuit breaker: https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a27557804/digital-circuit-breaker/

 

So, most people are familiar with the breaker panel in their home...however, some might not understand how it works. Not to get too technical, this is a lawman's description:

 

Every home connected to the grid has a "service", either 100 or 200 amps, provided by an energy supplier. (In our case BC Hydro) The power coming from the street goes directly to your breaker panel, where the power is distributed to various outlets in the house. (In electrical parlance, an "outlet" is any junction where there is a box, whether it be for a receptacle, switch, or light fixture, etc)

 

The breaker panel contains several spaces where a breaker may be installed. The breakers themselves are rated in amps, with 15 amp being the most common, (used for power and lighting circuits) as well as 40 and 30 amp breakers for Stoves and Dryers.

 

Breakers are designed to mechanically "trip" if the load (the demand for power on that circuit) exceeds it's rated amperage. So, if you are running your microwave and decide to pop in some toast, the breaker is likely to trip, if both appliances are on the same circuit. (The updated Electrical code requires a separate circuit for Microwaves)

 

The idea behind digital circuit breakers is that the amperage coming into the home is treated as a "pool" of electricity, which is distributed wherever it is required in the home, automatically. So while you may currently have 40 amps potentially set aside for your stove, that amperage can be used in other areas, until you actually need to cook something. Ditto the 30 amps required by your dryer.

 

The full 100 amps (or 200, if you have a 200 amp service) is available for use at all times.

 

This is an idea that has yet to reach the mass production stage, but I think most of us can agree that it's long overdue.