Gaudette Celly Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 44 minutes ago, Xanlet said: I'm just going to leave this here. The rule is still the same, the NHL brass is still the same, yet the calls go one way against the Canucks and the exact opposite when it would be in the Canucks favor "He twisted his toe"... ya don't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP-40 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 how ridiculous. NHL is rigged as fk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: there was kicking motion, that is all the evidence needed. Was there a grassy knoll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Here's how NHL Control looks at it: Islanders are struggling financially... their former 'face of the franchise' signed with Toronto and they need a way to get their fans excited again. Vancouver fans are guaranteed box office... they'll watch no matter how bad the team is. Bettman wants the Islanders franchise to stay put. So ask yourself as NHL control... which way do you rule on the goal??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Man are the NHL desperate to give us that 1st overall pick and thereby Jack Hughes in our home draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: Man are the NHL desperate to give us that 1st overall pick and thereby Jack Hughes in our home draft. No..they'll see the Avs get the ****ing pick, with it traded from a Cdn franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Kicked. The NHL won't admit it was wrong and the damage is already done anyways so it doesn't matter anyways. GET THE CALLS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycry Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: Man are the NHL desperate to give us that 1st overall pick and thereby Jack Hughes in our home draft. And yet we will never get the 1 OA pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: One angle looked kicked in and one looked like he got his stick on it after the kick, either way not conclusive enough to say good goal imo If video is inconclusive the call on the ice stands. It was called a goal on the ice. That said this was a tough one. The rule has changed that you can use your skate to score as long as there isn't a "distinct kicking motion". That rather leaves it open to opinion. In this case all it really looks like is him turning his skate into the puck, basically hitting the puck with his heal. I don't think it was a "distinct" kicking motion. I don't think I would have overturned the refs call on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Players are allowed to change the angle of their skates to direct the puck into the net. The league ruled that it was not a distinct kicking motion but rather a simple redirect of the skate and that's allowed. From the rulebook: 49.2 Goals - Kicking the puck shall be permitted in all zones. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who uses a distinct kicking motion to propel the puck into the net with his skate/foot. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who kicks a puck that deflects into the net off any player, goalkeeper or official. A puck that deflects into the net off an attacking player’s skate who does not use a distinct kicking motion is a legitimate goal. A puck that is directed into the net by an attacking player’s skate shall be a legitimate goal as long as no distinct kicking motion is evident. The following should clarify deflections following a kicked puck that enters the goal: (i) A kicked puck that deflects off the body of any player of either team (including the goalkeeper) shall be ruled no goal. (ii) A kicked puck that deflects off the stick of any player (excluding the goalkeeper’s stick) shall be ruled a good goal. (iii) A goal will be allowed when an attacking player kicks the puck and the puck deflects off his own stick and then into the net. (iv) A goal will be allowed when a puck enters the goal after deflecting off an attacking player’s skate or deflects off his skate while he is in the process of stopping. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who kicks any equipment (stick, glove, helmet, etc.) at the puck, including kicking the blade of his own stick, causing the puck to cross the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Anyone have that clip of Henrik and Daniel on 2 on 1.... except Daniel doesn't have a stick... but he still redirects the puck into the net and thus was deemed not a goal, even though it was directly with the outside of his skate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanlet Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 compiled some similar type goals that have been disallowed, all while under the same rule. It's pretty obvious there is massive inconsistency here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/why-its-time-to-kill-the-distinct-kicking-motion-rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 This thread is pathetic. He didn’t kick the puck, he angled his skate so he could steer it. That’s allowed. He did angle it with a motion happening quite close to the moment the puck hit the skate, so definitely a close call that could go both ways. But conspiracy? That’s ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 hours ago, 24K PureCool said: Man are the NHL desperate to give us that 1st overall pick and thereby Jack Hughes in our home draft. No chance... 4th at best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I recall decisions on goals that have gone our way this year that I thought were good goals for the opp soooooo...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Ok after seeing 4 threads discussing this, what is a kicking motion? It seems to be the sticking point here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
406in604 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: For those that missed it: I strongly believe it was kicked in. Doesnt the league usually issue a statement of 'fact' on why it was called the way it was? I'd be curious on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
406in604 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, spook007 said: No chance... 4th at best... 9th overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: "He twisted his toe"... ya don't say. Clear as mud.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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