'NucK™ Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, shazzam said: Why only the 2 frames? More would tell the whole story. Regarding his back skate, do you see Peterssons's foot? and here are two frames for you that are literally side by side. if you overlay the two images, his left skate is in the exact same spot, while its pretty obvious his right skate is now 2-3 inches forward. i've refrained from being rude on these forums for a long time.. but like i said already, you guys who don't see a kicking motion (LITERALLY IN THE IMAGES RIGHT BELOW THIS!!!) need to get your eyes checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: if all he did was twist his ankle, i'd agree with you.. it's pretty sad that none of you guys thinking this is not a kick have any explanation for why his right foot moved 10 cm forward while his left one stayed in place. and this was before Pettersson made any contact. momentum my ass, twisting his ankle my ass. there is a distinct kicking motion. just because it was only a few inches of a kick doesn't make it not a kick I suppose I'm going off of previous reviews that look for a pendulum motion at the knee to determine a kick. If I go by that then I dont see a kicking motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 At first viewing, I thought he kicked it up to his stick and got a piece of it. Now, not sure. One thing I've learned is to not dwell on these things because it eats me up. No point...it's not going to change anytime soon. A bit of a defeatist attitude, but I refuse to let them "win" by keeping me stuck in games past. Too bad, because momentum shifts do happen and, when they get it wrong, gives an unfair advantage. But, sadly, I'm getting used to these things. I feel like the review process is inept...like a bunch of monkeys shrugging at each other as they pick mites off one another and make screeching sounds. That's how I picture the Toronto review room. And that's the best thing I have to say about it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, rekker said: I suppose I'm going off of previous reviews that look for a pendulum motion at the knee to determine a kick. If I go by that then I dont see a kicking motion. Pendulum motion? So you are saying a goal should only be disallowed if a player brings his foot BACK and then forward again? Before, you said it was the twisting of his ankle (which I agree should be a good goal). I think you can see it the two frames right above your post that this was not what happened. In fact, I think it's pretty obvious he did use his knee to propel his right foot forward (how else would it be ahead of his left foot when he was gliding before the goal?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Only prob with this fine thread? ..Title change pls Something*Hasn't* Been Right, Since About 1990 In This F***ing Rigged Deck League!!!! Carry on, thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 They called it a goal because they thought he was trying to kick it up to his stick and NOT trying to kick it into the net, thus it was accidentally kicked in. Whether or not you agree that should be allowed is another matter, but that is their ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 16 hours ago, Baggins said: If video is inconclusive the call on the ice stands. It was called a goal on the ice. That said this was a tough one. The rule has changed that you can use your skate to score as long as there isn't a "distinct kicking motion". That rather leaves it open to opinion. In this case all it really looks like is him turning his skate into the puck, basically hitting the puck with his heal. I don't think it was a "distinct" kicking motion. I don't think I would have overturned the refs call on this one. that is a good point, and one that a lot of people gloss over. However, I don't know how anyone could say, without a doubt, that the puck was kicked in. I don't believe, at all, that it was some orchestrated effort, by the league, to screw the Canucks over. It was just a terrible, terrible call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Is there a fanbase out there that believes that officials favour their team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, 'NucK™ said: Pendulum motion? So you are saying a goal should only be disallowed if a player brings his foot BACK and then forward again? Before, you said it was the twisting of his ankle (which I agree should be a good goal). I think you can see it the two frames right above your post that this was not what happened. In fact, I think it's pretty obvious he did use his knee to propel his right foot forward (how else would it be ahead of his left foot when he was gliding before the goal?) I would need to see it again. But going off memory I dont remember a pendulum motion at the knee leading to the ankle moving to push the puck in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 not really a distinct pendulum kicking motion. there was no backswing and his skate never left the ice. it's like when you turn you skate trying to stop and the puck bounce off your skate it's still considered a goal. if you look at the blade of the angle on the ice. it was pretty straight perpendicular to the ice. if he was kicking it the skate would be dragging and the blade angle relative to the ice would be / and after he swing it forward \ it's pretty hard to kick the puck without changing the blade angle unless his skate is off the ice which it was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 hours ago, 'NucK™ said: and here are two frames for you that are literally side by side. if you overlay the two images, his left skate is in the exact same spot, while its pretty obvious his right skate is now 2-3 inches forward. i've refrained from being rude on these forums for a long time.. but like i said already, you guys who don't see a kicking motion (LITERALLY IN THE IMAGES RIGHT BELOW THIS!!!) need to get your eyes checked Since forward momentum is not allowed because his left skate his in place, there still needs to be a DISTINCT kicking motion which is subjective. If you can prove the kick then great. Contact the nhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 20 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: For those that missed it: I strongly believe it was kicked in. Man, I thought this was much more controversial than it really was. I don't think the NHL cares as much about us as the fanbase thinks it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 There's something going on here! "There's nothing going on here...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 hours ago, EmilyM said: Is there a fanbase out there that believes that officials favour their team? The Islanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 23 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: One angle looked kicked in and one looked like he got his stick on it after the kick, either way not conclusive enough to say good goal imo DO you work in Toronto? not in the war room? In any other game that goal is disallowed! In fact if the teams were reversed, the goal would have been called off on the ice to prevent any argument in case it was too close to call. Again when a goal is scored against the Canucks the refs are encouraged to in doubt call goal! that way if it is close they don't over turn it! And if the Canucks score they call the goal off! That way if its inconclusive its no goal and the "call on the ice stands". If its a hands down goal or no goal nobody looks bad they over turn it. If as a fan you know this you won't get as worked up about wwf Officiating, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Where'd Luongo? said: They called it a goal because they thought he was trying to kick it up to his stick and NOT trying to kick it into the net, thus it was accidentally kicked in. Whether or not you agree that should be allowed is another matter, but that is their ruling. That wouldn't be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Wait, wait, got the eeriest feelin' Somethin' evil is lurkin', I'm no conspiracy theorist But somethin' here is afoot oh yeah, it's my stick Get the measurin' stick (what?), twelve inches of wood Oh, and clearly kicked it. Ill see if I can muster up the drive to make a gif of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 5 hours ago, stawns said: that is a good point, and one that a lot of people gloss over. However, I don't know how anyone could say, without a doubt, that the puck was kicked in. I don't believe, at all, that it was some orchestrated effort, by the league, to screw the Canucks over. It was just a terrible, terrible call. This... end off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatoes11 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Who cares? I don’t think this goal decided the game at all, we looked done regardless even if it was waived off. And even if this did decide the game, no one would complain if we won the lottery and got jack Hughes missing the playoffs by one game. Also he would have gotten it with his stick before it went over if markstrom pads wasn’t in the way. Lol Regardless, crap happens and if we have to deal with more to win the cup, that’s what we have to do. Can’t do anything except to play with the hand that we are dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 14 hours ago, EmilyM said: Is there a fanbase out there that believes that officials favour their team? 2013 San Jose Sharks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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