[Report] Canucks recall Reid Boucher, reassign Brendan Gaunce

[vannuck59]

Boucher will be fine 

[Podzilla]

He should help the power play 

 

 

                        Horvat

Virtanen    Goldobin.      Pettersson

                       Hutton 

 

 

                      Eriksson

Gaudette.     Gagner      Boucher

                      Stecher

                    

 

 

Should be the 2 power play lines and formations imo. 

[Father Ryan]

I see this more as a tactical move. Gaunce is approaching the 30 day limit before he has to go through waivers; Boucher hasn't been called up yet. I don't see Boucher anywhere but as a good-really good AHL'er/borderline NHL'er; nice depth and worth a goal or three, but not anything to brag about. Gaunce is more valuable to me; able to play a 200' game, albeit without virtually any scoring touch.

[The Big Luongo]

Boucher reminds me of Granlund in that he has some good skill but struggles with a lack of speed. If he ever had the speed he'd be a full time NHL player imo. Hopefully he's picked up his game a notch and can use his skills we could sure use it.

 

Not getting why Gaunce hasn't been getting the chance when watching a guy like Archibald adding absolutely nothing to the team and think Guance could penalty kill better than Schaller and be better 5 on 5 since Schaller skates up and down the ice like Archibald and accomplishes pretty much nothing every shift as well. 

 

To me Guance has a lot of good 2 way skills checks the opponent very well has a real knack for it and can surprise with some offense he's quite intelligent but he is pretty slow and lumbering type player for the most part so it would do him wonders like some others to get quicker it would really help his game overall. 

[Dazzle]

13 hours ago, Where'd Luongo? said:

Actually he is a ppg, look at his stats.

He is not a career ppg.

 

Being a ppg in the games he played is a small sample and not at all indicative of his play.

[Where'd Luongo?]

2 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

He is not a career ppg.

 

Being a ppg in the games he played is a small sample and not at all indicative of his play.

Exactly, the sample size was so small he maybe played 15 minutes of actual hockey but put up 3 points and won way more than half his faceoffs. Seems like the type of guy you want on the team if you ask me.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

11 hours ago, Where'd Luongo? said:

Exactly, the sample size was so small he maybe played 15 minutes of actual hockey but put up 3 points and won way more than half his faceoffs. Seems like the type of guy you want on the team if you ask me.

He should be given more games in than some of the stiffs in the lineup.

[Baggins]

On 11/22/2018 at 10:13 PM, Where'd Luongo? said:

Actually he is a ppg, look at his stats.

The problem is that's likely as sustainable as Guddy's point streak was. I suspect the problem with Gaunce is you don't really notice him much unless the puck is on his stick. Archie gets about the same ice time but I notice him all the time. Same with Gaudette. I think they just hustle and get involved more than Gaunce. I don't what it is about him. He has tools. He just doesn't seem to stand out though.

[Where'd Luongo?]

7 hours ago, Baggins said:

The problem is that's likely as sustainable as Guddy's point streak was. I suspect the problem with Gaunce is you don't really notice him much unless the puck is on his stick. Archie gets about the same ice time but I notice him all the time. Same with Gaudette. I think they just hustle and get involved more than Gaunce. I don't what it is about him. He has tools. He just doesn't seem to stand out though.

That's because he only played 4 minutes. Use your head.

[spur1]

I would have liked to seen Gaunce used more. Not sure why Green does not use him. Could be Green thinks he has a lot more to give and like Virt he is trying to get it out of him. 

Boucher could be what we need to score some goals. 

[Borderline Canuck]

Gaunce gets a goal first game back in Utica.  I'm a Gaunce fan but I think it's good that they sent him down.  He needs to play and he wasn't getting any ice time in Vancouver.  He's only played 7 games so far this yr.  4 in Utica and 3 in Vancouver.  I thinnk he'll be back up before the seasons over.

[VIC_CITY]

On 11/23/2018 at 10:45 AM, The Big Luongo said:

Boucher reminds me of Granlund in that he has some good skill but struggles with a lack of speed. If he ever had the speed he'd be a full time NHL player imo. Hopefully he's picked up his game a notch and can use his skills we could sure use it.

 

Not getting why Gaunce hasn't been getting the chance when watching a guy like Archibald adding absolutely nothing to the team and think Guance could penalty kill better than Schaller and be better 5 on 5 since Schaller skates up and down the ice like Archibald and accomplishes pretty much nothing every shift as well. 

 

To me Guance has a lot of good 2 way skills checks the opponent very well has a real knack for it and can surprise with some offense he's quite intelligent but he is pretty slow and lumbering type player for the most part so it would do him wonders like some others to get quicker it would really help his game overall. 

Trent Cull was quoted saying Boucher has improved his skating this year.

 

This is long overdue IMO. I believe Boucher was only dressed in 2 preseason games this year and he didn't look out of place. His shot looked as good as ever. But the coaching staff seamed to have their minds made up that Boucher wasn't going to be a part of this team.

 

I agree that Gaunce is a better defender but Boucher is one of the more offensively gifted players in our organization. His shot is elite. He's also very under rated defensively. I'm not saying he's ever going to win the Selke but he isn't a liability like a lot of people think.

 

There was a good article written by CA recently that goes into detail about a number of perceived weaknesses of Boucher and debunks most of them. Someone posted it on the 1st page but have a look if you haven't already.

 

https://canucksarmy.com/2018/11/20/should-canucks-give-reid-boucher-another-chance/

 

 

[EdgarM]

Doesn't matter either way they are both place holders who won't be around when some of our prospects develop. 

 

[mll]

2 hours ago, spur1 said:

I would have liked to seen Gaunce used more. Not sure why Green does not use him. Could be Green thinks he has a lot more to give and like Virt he is trying to get it out of him. 

Boucher could be what we need to score some goals. 

The Canucks have moved on from Gaunce already in the summer by signing those 3 UFAs.

[The Big Luongo]

3 hours ago, VIC_CITY said:

Trent Cull was quoted saying Boucher has improved his skating this year.

 

This is long overdue IMO. I believe Boucher was only dressed in 2 preseason games this year and he didn't look out of place. His shot looked as good as ever. But the coaching staff seamed to have their minds made up that Boucher wasn't going to be a part of this team.

 

I agree that Gaunce is a better defender but Boucher is one of the more offensively gifted players in our organization. His shot is elite. He's also very under rated defensively. I'm not saying he's ever going to win the Selke but he isn't a liability like a lot of people think.

 

There was a good article written by CA recently that goes into detail about a number of perceived weaknesses of Boucher and debunks most of them. Someone posted it on the 1st page but have a look if you haven't already.

 

https://canucksarmy.com/2018/11/20/should-canucks-give-reid-boucher-another-chance/

 

 

Well I agree with some of things you say I'll watch closely but I'll have to say after the 1st period Boucher had a pretty bad giveaway and didn't stand out in a good way mind you nobody really did hopefully better things to come for everyone.

 

I did notice Boucher did look noticeably faster though.

 

If he can make use of the speed he definitely does have some real good offensive skills and we couldn't need that more right now.

[Baggins]

9 hours ago, Where'd Luongo? said:

That's because he only played 4 minutes. Use your head.

Might want to use more than your head and check that.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Boucher was completely invisible against LA.

 

Not sure this was the best move... but I understand the coach wants more offense.

 

Would personally prefer to see Dahlen.

[BPA]

Maybe Boucher needs a few more games to adjust to the NHL.

 

Sometimes scoring in the AHL does not always translate to scoring in the NHL.

[Boudrias]

On 11/23/2018 at 11:45 AM, The Big Luongo said:

Boucher reminds me of Granlund in that he has some good skill but struggles with a lack of speed. If he ever had the speed he'd be a full time NHL player imo. Hopefully he's picked up his game a notch and can use his skills we could sure use it.

 

Not getting why Gaunce hasn't been getting the chance when watching a guy like Archibald adding absolutely nothing to the team and think Guance could penalty kill better than Schaller and be better 5 on 5 since Schaller skates up and down the ice like Archibald and accomplishes pretty much nothing every shift as well. 

 

To me Guance has a lot of good 2 way skills checks the opponent very well has a real knack for it and can surprise with some offense he's quite intelligent but he is pretty slow and lumbering type player for the most part so it would do him wonders like some others to get quicker it would really help his game overall. 

You think Granlund doesn't have enough speed?  I agree that Boucher is missing a step. Above average shot but you have to be in position to use it.

 

Guance is a head scratcher for me. I agree he has a skills package as good or better than some who get regular Canuck TOI. The only thing I can assume is that Green has explained what he wants from Gaunce and is not getting it. What's missing? The only thing I can see is more physicality. Gaunce plays a strong positional game and maybe he

thinks he will get caught if he finishes a check. Green had Gaunce in Utica for 2 years and used him a lot. What has happened since he came to Van? Does Gaunce not have enough desire for the game? If he did he would amp up his play to show that desire. He goes down to Utica and scores a goal a game. I am suggesting that Green's vision of Gaunce's NHL game does not jive with Gaunce's. A battle of wills that Gaunbce cannot win? 

[EdgarM]

7 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

You think Granlund doesn't have enough speed?  I agree that Boucher is missing a step. Above average shot but you have to be in position to use it.

 

Guance is a head scratcher for me. I agree he has a skills package as good or better than some who get regular Canuck TOI. The only thing I can assume is that Green has explained what he wants from Gaunce and is not getting it. What's missing? The only thing I can see is more physicality. Gaunce plays a strong positional game and maybe he

thinks he will get caught if he finishes a check. Green had Gaunce in Utica for 2 years and used him a lot. What has happened since he came to Van? Does Gaunce not have enough desire for the game? If he did he would amp up his play to show that desire. He goes down to Utica and scores a goal a game. I am suggesting that Green's vision of Gaunce's NHL game does not jive with Gaunce's. A battle of wills that Gaunbce cannot win? 

What I have seen from Gaunce, other then his lack of any kind of offense, is his lack of aggressive battle for a big man. Similar to Archibald. Those two players, if could play with more intensity and aggression, would be far more effective NHL players. This seems to be what TG is looking for this year and he is giving more ice time to those players who are exhibiting it and sitting those that don't.

Virtanen is one player, that I believe , is a prime example of this and he has greatly improved his NHL game because of it.