D.B Cooper Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: no need for the constant contentious "but but but.." "boo hoo" this is a forum and we're trying to discuss something. don't let the door hit you on the way out I’m so bored with the sympathizer and the excuses. Nobody expected any better than this at the start of the season, now we have people bitching about a losing streak. We the fans complain about team consistency, but can’t deliver any ourselves. Boo hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: lol the NHL is not intentionally screwing the Canucks. We'd have to have pretty big egos to assume they have a secret agenda against the team. Even the eastern media is praising Pettersson, calling him a superstar after only 17 games. He's the talk of the league right now,. Geez that must bug the Leafs fans. lol I think the Canucks started the season really well, they had something to prove. But then the injuries hit, and they've struggled to win since. It has nothing to do with the coaching, nothing to do with the league or the refs. Injuries to key players will have a negative effect. Bo has been a beast, way more faceoffs than any other player in the league and he's over 50%. He's also been getting a ton of ice time and playing in all key situations. He's doing it all right now. Pettersson has been great. Hutton, Goldobin and Virtanen all continue to improve. I think once the Canucks have all of their players back, we can then look at how they're fairing. This is a better team than what the last 3 weeks has shown. Would be nice to see Stecher start putting the puck in the net. Before people make stupid assertions, they should take the trouble to examine the facts. Pull up the Canadiens schedule and count the number of 6 game road trips. To save you the trouble, the number is zero - the Canucks have three. Count the number of times the Canadians play 3 games in 4 nights. The answer is three, the Canucks have 9 - the next highest team has 5. Count the number of times they play 4 games in 6 nights - Canucks three times, Montreal zero. Examine Montreal’s schedule to see a miracle of not playing games almost always with an off day between. Montreal does not even have the best schedule in the league, but the Canucks sure as hell have the worst. This is not caused by “...being a West Coast Team...” - LA and Anaheim have the 4th best and 5th best schedules and obviously are West Coast. Edmonton has the best schedule of all, one would think in compensation for starting in Europe. http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks-difficult-schedule-2018 This is not always the case in terms of tired games. Last year the Canucks were middle of the pack - but then remember they had the blessing of the China trip. Edmonton is gifted the best schedule for playing in Europe this year, the Canucks get middle of the pack for starting in China last year. But for this year, yes, the schedule is a definite factor contributing to weariness and possibly affecting health. I wouldn't be surprised if Edmonton did a little lobbying to get some compensation, I can only wonder if the Canucks do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Considering that the Canucks did well with the brutal schedule to start the season, if they are somehow win in San Jose and LA, it will bring a respectable road record and majority of their games will be at home with some breaks. Still a brutal schedule after a short 3-games road in mid-December with 8 games in 14 days afterward with no days off. Notice the pattern, only two extra days off after this road trip and during one of their homestand. After Christmas, still no extra days off until January 5th. They will recover and fare well with their top players coming back from injures. Easiest schedule are still to come and they could go on a tear if they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: Before people make stupid assertions, they should take the trouble to examine the facts. Pull up the Canadiens schedule and count the number of 6 game road trips. To save you the trouble, the number is zero - the Canucks have three. Count the number of times the Canadians play 3 games in 4 nights. The answer is three, the Canucks have 9 - the next highest team has 5. Count the number of times they play 4 games in 6 nights - Canucks three times, Montreal zero. Examine Montreal’s schedule to see a miracle of not playing games almost always with an off day between. Montreal does not even have the best schedule in the league, but the Canucks sure as hell have the worst. This is not caused by “...being a West Coast Team...” - LA and Anaheim have the 4th best and 5th best schedules and obviously are West Coast. Edmonton has the best schedule of all, one would think in compensation for starting in Europe. http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks-difficult-schedule-2018 This is not always the case in terms of tired games. Last year the Canucks were middle of the pack - but then remember they had the blessing of the China trip. Edmonton is gifted the best schedule for playing in Europe this year, the Canucks get middle of the pack for starting in China last year. But for this year, yes, the schedule is a definite factor contributing to weariness and possibly affecting health. I wouldn't be surprised if Edmonton did a little lobbying to get some compensation, I can only wonder if the Canucks do the same. Glass half full! This schedule spews for Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritGrinder Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The Canucks are who we thought they are...now if you’re going to tank their a** then tank them but they are who we thought they are and the season started good but they let it off the hook..!! (An homage to the late Dennis Green) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, drummerboy said: I’m so bored with the sympathizer and the excuses. Nobody expected any better than this at the start of the season, now we have people bitching about a losing streak. We the fans complain about team consistency, but can’t deliver any ourselves. Boo hoo you're the only one bitching... it's called analyzing the team's performance. can be done whether the team is wining or losing. I guess you'd be here calling the former gloating then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Davathor said: Glass half full! This schedule spews for Hughes 3 minutes ago, Davathor said: Glass half full! This schedule spews for Hughes Actually we have a good schedule in Dec Jan that could foul that up. A healthy Boeser, without any further injuries, might play against that, too. Oh well, I like watching us win.... until the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I guess all that consideration last month of Green for coach of the year has gone out the window........lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON IT SEEMED LIKE A 30/70 CHANCE OF WINNING, NOW IT SEEMS LIKE 5/95 PERCENT CHANCE, WHY WOULD i WANT TO PUT MYSELF THROUGH THIS TYPE OF PAIN, DOWN 2 NOTHING TO SAN JOSE, GAME OVER, THANKS FOR COMING, BYE BYE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On an 82 game schedule, sometimes I think the NBA has it right in resting their star players in some games. If starting goaltenders can gave a game or two off sometimes so should the skaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 It's hard to say cause we never really had the full roster for an extended period of time. I just want to see a healthy team for one month, thats all i ask. We always get these stupid injuries early to key players when we're doing great for some reason. It's frustrating seeing teams like the fLames enjoying a healthy team while we drop like flies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogersTowell Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 No big secret here. If you take 1/3 of your starting line up out, you start to lose more games. If we get a couple more players back we'll start to turn it around. Guys like Edler Boeser Sutter and Beagle are hard to replace - there's nobody close to filling their role on the roster. Baertschi alone isn't bad as we have a few spare bodies that can step up and Goldobin and Virtanen have stepped up. Right now there are just too many holes to fill. Leipsic is a borderline NHLer - those are the kind of guys that won't cause much change if injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, RogersTowell said: No big secret here. If you take 1/3 of your starting line up out, you start to lose more games. If we get a couple more players back we'll start to turn it around. Guys like Edler Boeser Sutter and Beagle are hard to replace - there's nobody close to filling their role on the roster. Baertschi alone isn't bad as we have a few spare bodies that can step up and Goldobin and Virtanen have stepped up. Right now there are just too many holes to fill. Leipsic is a borderline NHLer - those are the kind of guys that won't cause much change if injured. And when your healthy starting lineup is about 28th best in the league on paper then you're in real trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogersTowell Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Zhukini said: And when your healthy starting lineup is about 28th best in the league on paper then you're in real trouble... They're better than you think when healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I think it is safe to say this is now below reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancouverbucsfan Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The Bruins missed the playoffs back in 2015 and cleaned house. They traded Lucic. How were they able to get it turned around so quickly yet we continue to struggle?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44ever Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Oh man anyone that thinks the NHL us screwing the Canucks is in serious loser denial. it is hard? Sure but life is hard. Every team gets hard patches wenjust seem to not have the depth or talent to overcome injuries, we would be a great team if we played an ai simulator every game but we don’t we play all the games against teams who are themselves trying to win and getting better. thats the number one thing people forget about a rebuild. It’s not just us rebuilding every other team is trying to make thherds great for the now and the future. we don’t look anything like a good team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44ever Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 You realize we get the fortunes of having a tired team a lot in Vancouver because of how th western Canadian swing goes right? Teams generally play 3 games in 4 nights with the Canucks game being that third game on a Saturday night. THe NHL makes teams go thru Alberta first a lot to balance out all the travel we have. no one seems to care about when the schedule is in our favour just when it isn’t. why is no one accountable and it’s alwYs bettman the refs the nhl. Never goaltending defense coach GM owners we dont have have a good enough team to be a winner. Goaltending and defense were easily bottom five in both and secondary scoring? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I don`t think it`s so much a case of coming down to reality as it is the reality of key injuires has catching up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Same story as every year sadly. InJuRiEs ArE hUrTiNg Us. Not even just injuries, it's injuries to our best players. Our best d-man. Our two best scoring wingers. Nilsson who was looking like he was gonna steal the starter job, even if he was just a backup it hurt cause Marky was being asked to play way too many games. Lost our bottom 6 centers. Doesn't sound bad until you factor in that it's their job to give Bo and Petey the room to play offensively. Now Bo is being asked to carry the faceoff load for pretty much all 4 lines. Since their injuries he's averaging 23-25 minutes a game. Can't really say it's "coming back to reality" cause the reality is not very many teams lose this many core players all at the same time. Add to the fact our schedule has been brutal, just reinforcing the depth troubles we are having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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