Baer. Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Jtutino said: The salary floor is 59 million. Canucks cap is around 72 mil. I dont see how they're trying to stay above the salary floor. That contract is for another 4 years. In that time they will have to sign boeser and petterson to new deals. No way anyone claims that contract Lots of UFAs walking in the next few years. Petey and Boeser will sign bridge deals just like Laine did and Nylander/Marner will. There could be room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Baer. said: Lots of UFAs walking in the next few years. Petey and Boeser will sign bridge deals just like Laine did and Nylander/Marner will. There could be room. Laine is not signed beyond his ELC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Baer. said: Right, that's why they are in the AHL and Del Zaster still gets NHL time. Dude Del Zotto is the 7th dman. He’s played 18 of 26 games and it’d be less than that if Edler and Tanev didn’t go down. Kids developing need ice time no point calling Juolevi, Sautner, McEneny, Brisebois and Chatfield. Pretty sure at least half those guys are currently better than both Del Zotto and Alzner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Dude Del Zotto is the 7th dman. He’s played 18 of 26 games and it’d be less than that if Edler and Tanev didn’t go down. Kids developing need ice time no point calling Juolevi, Sautner, McEneny, Brisebois and Chatfield. Pretty sure at least half those guys are currently better than both Del Zotto and Alzner. You just contradicted yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Baer. said: You just contradicted yourself. There’s a reason Montreal a team bottom 5 in the league in goals against is still waiving Alzner. He’s too slow! Where did I contradict myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Baer. said: He was a top-4 dman in Washington for almost a decade. One bad season on a bad team doesn't make him a plug. And contract doesn't really matter when the Canucks are trying to just stay above the salary floor. That's short term thinking though Baer. He might make sense.....this year. But it's 3 years into the future that you have to consider - when this team's 'window' will be far more important - and committing 4.6 to Alzner might not look like such a great idea. Even taking Edler (and MDZ) out of the equation = Juolevi, Hughes, Hutton, Pouliot, Tryamkin, Brisebois, Rathbone.... Pass on Alzner, despite the fact I like the player and agree that you don't write him off based on a relatively small sample. He just doesn't make sense moving forward. If you're going to take that on, you have to make Montreal pay a heavy asset price to do so. If we're simply looking for an upgrade on a 7th man/MDZ - deal him to the Isles for Luca Sbisa . @apollo would lose his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I’m gonna go against the grain here and say Delzotto has been better than Pouliot, Biega , and it pains me to say Stetcher because I like him and I know he can play better. MDZ will still find himself a home somewhere else and we’ll have OJ ready to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtutino Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 43 minutes ago, Baer. said: Lots of UFAs walking in the next few years. Petey and Boeser will sign bridge deals just like Laine did and Nylander/Marner will. There could be room. The money would be better spent elsewhere. Why would the canucks spend 4.7 mil on a 6/7 dman thats over 30, regressing, and has 4 yrs left?? He never had the greatest foot speed and its only getting worse when the leagues getting faster. I doubt Petey signs a bridge deal after his 3 years elc, im pretty sure hell know his worth by then. Maybe Boeser because of all the injuries but it still wont be cheap. And if Virt keep improving and say pots 20 this year and 25 next hes going to be making alot more than that 1.25 mil. Better to use that money on your home grown talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, Baer. said: Lots of UFAs walking in the next few years. Petey and Boeser will sign bridge deals just like Laine did and Nylander/Marner will. There could be room. Not sure if Boeser or EP40 sign a bridge deal. Nylander will have a lot to say about that. Even if the Laffers make Nylander sit for the rest of the year to make a point the NHL is still faced with a Laine, Marner and Matthews deals. These guys are all going for term and lots of money. Canucks won't get a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Toyotasfan said: I’m gonna go against the grain here and say Delzotto has been better than Pouliot, Biega , and it pains me to say Stetcher because I like him and I know he can play better. MDZ will still find himself a home somewhere else and we’ll have OJ ready to step up. And you may have a point if you're talking simply about the past 3-5 games - whereas his first 13-15 games he was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, higgyfan said: His career doesn't look all that stunning either. Usually, when a player is considered superior (#5 overall), they can still play well into their 30s. He still has a lot of years on a hefty contract, so the Habs probably thought he would still be a NHL player when they signed him. I don't really look at draft position as much of an indication to begin with to be honest, let alone determining the length of a career. There are too many factors such as number of injuries, injury types, style of play, even a change in the league could affect someone a la Derian Hatcher style. This isn't even taking into account players drafted early on that don't even make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, aGENT said: If it wasn't for the term left... Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Baer. said: Lots of UFAs walking in the next few years. Petey and Boeser will sign bridge deals just like Laine did and Nylander/Marner will. There could be room. None of those players has signed a bridge deal as of yet, so prognosticating forward based on it having happened doesn’t make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 The term is ugly. I can't believe this guy would be a 7 or 8 with MTL's current D. I guess he really fell off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Montreal's best bet is to retain and try and unload him for something. Any cap savings are better than trying to bury a guy with term if they're certain he can't make their team better. Either that or swap him for someone who's not working out elsewhere and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milk and honey Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Rick Blight said: I think the Wade Redden deal might have been worse. He was paid $6.5M per year for two years in the minors before being bought out. that islander guy that was like 9m a year comes to mind to. 15years ago give or take. before cap time iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, milk and honey said: that islander guy that was like 9m a year comes to mind to. 15years ago give or take. before cap time iirc Alexei Yashin? Yeah, that one was pretty bad as well. Alexei Yashin, New York Islanders (Total contract: 10 years, $87.5 million): To be fair to Mike Milbury, there wasn’t a salary cap in place when the Islanders handed out this mega- deal. Yashin never quite lived up to the expectations on Long Island. He scored just 119 goals in 346 games after Milbury gave up Zdeno Chara and a draft pick that became Jason Spezza to acquire the Russian. The final four years of Yashin’s deal were bought out after the 2006-07 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Baer. said: Lots of UFAs walking in the next few years. Petey and Boeser will sign bridge deals just like Laine did and Nylander/Marner will. There could be room. Benning said the Canucks want a long term deal with Boeser. They probably prefer to get him signed before he has arbitration rights and can be offer-sheeted (not that it ever happens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Not surprised. He use to play on a Good team, where he was sheltered. Became a UFA and a POOR team overpaid thinking he would help them...Sound familiar? Our GM has had the same logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Give us Kotka and you can dump Alzner. In all honesty though I don't see anything realistic here. Alzner has too much term to be a viable option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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