FijianCanuck Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Leivo was in Babcocks doghouse. Fresh start should help here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Woah, surprised that the Canucks traded Carcone considering he's one of the better players in Utica. Good luck to Carcone in Toronto and I hope Leivo bounces back in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, rekker said: This trade should push Shaller to up his game. I'm hoping for more physicality from Shaller to help the team and carve out his niche. So far the only thing about Schalls that has impressed me is his appearance on Barstool Sports with El Prez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 This has got to be leading to a Tim S waver move, or a Sammy G trade. I don’t think they would try to wave Sammy. I guess they could try to wave Pou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Quantum said: Woah, surprised that the Canucks traded Carcone considering he's one of the better players in Utica. Good luck to Carcone in Toronto and I hope Leivo bounces back in Vancouver. That is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Great trade. Colleague of mine (Leaf Blower) thinks we won huge, Leivo is a victim of LW depth in TO. -Has a killer shot -Strong on the boards, wins puck battles -saw some PP2 time -Definitely under utilized in TO Given that he has a good release and plays the boards well, might be nice to see him with Petey and Brock. Goldy - Bo - Virtanen Leivo - Petey - Boeser or Leivo - Bo - Boeser Goldy - Petey - Virtanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Out: Leipsic, Carcone In: Leivo I don't mind the move, I just hope it doesn't hurt Utica too much. I won't expect any miracles, but I'm glad the Leipsic experiment came to an end. Credit to Jim here. The Leafs needed to make a roster move to make room for Nylander. Jim swooped in and at least made a phone call. In this case, I think it solved both teams needs. For us, it just stirs the pot up and gives Travis a different player to work with. For the Leafs, they free up a roster spot, and acquire someone that doesn't have to go through waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Leivo isn't going to be a savour here people. maybe with more opportunity he'll play well but he is 25 and that generally indicative of peak potential for forwards. This will be a big year for him with us so hopefully he steps it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Leivo isn't going to be a savour here people. maybe with more opportunity he'll play well but he is 25 and that generally indicative of peak potential for forwards. This will be a big year for him with us so hopefully he steps it up Power forwards usually take a bit longer, he also hasn't been given much opportunity in Toronto. He does tend to float here and there, hopefully he can work on keeping his feet moving a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canckelhead Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I hope they send Gagme back to the Marlies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canckelhead Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, cyoung said: Power forwards usually take a bit longer, he also hasn't been given much opportunity in Toronto. He does tend to float here and there, hopefully he can work on keeping his feet moving a bit more. I'm just glad that found someone with some size and is not afraid to be physical. (speaking to YOU Schaller) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeridebc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Heavy shot. Bigger body, fits what we need imo. At this point I'm for any and all tinkering with our fringe guys. More to come I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Leivo has 14 goals in 84 NHL games while averaging only 10 minutes per game in mostly a bottom 6 role.. Give him 15 minutes (or more) in a top 6 role and he will be a 20+ goal scorer for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, Apple Juice said: There was a rumour earlier this year in Feb that he wanted a trade out of Toronto because he was getting the same treatment as Corrado. Always scratched and he just wanted to play hockey. Nice. Glad to hear this. He'll get an opportunity in VAN. Would love to see him gel with Bo. Leivo - Horvat - Virtanen (that's what I'd like to see) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I'm still waiting on the other roster move. I mean we waived Leipsic in order to activate Beagle, by acquiring Leivo we're still about roster limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 An interesting article from August: https://editorinleaf.com/2018/08/24/toronto-maple-leafs-leivo-needs-to-play/ When it comes to players on the Toronto Maple Leafs roster, Josh Leivo tends to be considered an afterthought. That’s because since making his NHL debut during the 2013-14 season, his usage by the team is best described as sporadic. Throughout his career so far, he has recorded 10 goals, 12 assists, and 22 points in only 57 games spread across five seasons. Despite a limited showing, Leivo has proven to be useful when he does suit up for the Leafs. Leivo possesses a great shot and a nice release that can fool any goalie when given time and space. He has also shown to have some quick feet along with some good offensive awareness, demonstrated by his goal against the Carolina Hurricanes last November. At 6’2” and 210 pounds, he has good size for a forward, which he can use to his advantage. In the following two video links, he shows strength in providing a great net-front presence to screen the goalie either to deflect a shot or fire home a high-scoring chance. His underlying stats as per Natural Stat Trick suggest he is a decent player all-around, especially since he possesses a career Corsi-For rating of 51.9%. When compared to new arrival, Tyler Ennis, Leivo appears to be a stronger player overall by this SKATR chart. Why he’s not playing much Despite his good showing in small bunches, the Leafs depth chart on Roster Resource shows that Leivo is in an uphill battle to get into the lineup. It also doesn’t help that the Leafs spent this summer acquiring more forwards such as Ennis and Josh Jooris. Additionally, his usage in recent years has put him in situations he couldn’t shine in. This past season alone saw his oZS% reach a career-low 30.1, which could explain why he only managed to record 1 goal, 3 assists, and 4 points the previous year. For a player with strong offensive abilities such as Leivo, he should be put into more situations where he can get a chance to produce. As you can see in this power-play sequence against the San Jose Sharks from 2017, this is the kind of player he can be and what role he should be given. According to CapFriendly.com, Leivo is only under contract for one season, which puts his long-term view into question given his infrequent usage. It also doesn’t help that he requested a trade back in February according to Mark Scheing of The Hockey Writer. In short, this is not an ideal position for the 25-year-old forward to be in, who should soon be entering the prime of his career. The lack of playing time and improper placement in the lineup has made his future with the team become increasingly murkier each passing season. A potential opening This season will be his eighth year with the organization and he should be out to prove he belongs in the NHL for good. Back in February, Leivo said this to TSN regarding his future: “I just want to play hockey,” Leivo said after the morning skate on Monday. “I do want to play for the Maple Leafs, that’s why I signed [a one-year contract extension in November]. But at the same point I just want to play, right?” With James van Riemsdyk departing the team via free agency back in July, Leivo could fill the void left behind by the forward and finally get what he has been asking for. As mentioned earlier, Leivo has shown multiple times he can be a solid net-front presence for both even strength and the power-play. Riemsdyk’s biggest asset was that exact same thing, which he was able to do this year on the third line. This would make Leivo a perfect fit to replicate a bit of this playing style. In fact, being on the third line could be a huge benefit for him since the John Tavares signing has “forced” Nazem Kadri down the lineup. If Leivo gets to play on the ice with a skilled offensive player like Kadri, perhaps this will unlock his true offensive potential. In short, the numbers and eye test suggests that Leivo can and should be a permanent NHL player. His underlying numbers show that he is a solid offensive weapon and has the tools necessary to help ease the loss of van Riemsdyk. The Leafs need to give Leivo a chance to play because he is well overdue for a longer look. Otherwise, trade him to a team who will gladly give him an opportunity. NEXT: Trade Value Power Ranking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I'm still waiting on the other roster move. I mean we waived Leipsic in order to activate Beagle, by acquiring Leivo we're still about roster limit. Biega or Pouliot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: Nice. Glad to hear this. He'll get an opportunity in VAN. Would love to see him gel with Bo. Leivo - Horvat - Virtanen (that's what I'd like to see) With Baertschi out, I agree that this might be worth a shot. That is a big, strong line and Jake gives them lots of speed. Could see Jake being first in on the fore check and then either Bo or Leivo helping to dig the puck out and create chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddyguy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Nice. Glad to hear this. He'll get an opportunity in VAN. Would love to see him gel with Bo. Leivo - Horvat - Virtanen (that's what I'd like to see) Same here. I could also see something like this: leivo - petey - boeser Goldy - horvat - virtanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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