"Baby It's Cold Outside" pulled from radio

[Heretic]

2 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

Its not glamorizing rape or coersion, its speaking in innuendo and speaking for social standards vs personal desires. 

it doesn't do that by today's standards either. There are still billions of people who live by the same standards and many of them are immigrating to Canada and can identify with the song far more than historically ignorant millenials can.

 

Did you read that blog?  Do you know someone that has been raped?  Do you know about what can trigger them into feeling that again?  Were you for or against Sir John A MacDonald's statue coming down?  

[canuckistani]

1 minute ago, Heretic said:

Did you read that blog?  Do you know someone that has been raped?  Do you know about what can trigger them into feeling that again?  Were you for or against Sir John A MacDonald's statue coming down?  

That is their psychological problem that THEY need to face to. We are not going to enable trauma mechanisms by covering up society for every known trauma to mankind- which means ALL cultural aspects are traumatic to someone or another. Its YOUR job to deal with your trauma. Not mine.  No, i have not been raped, but i have had attempts on my person by racist f*ckwits because of my skin color (white Nazi-sympathizers). I still won't ask to censor their speech, neither was i demanding every white dude with the same haircut who tried to kill me,  to put on a wig either. 

First rule of healing, is to realize the damage lies with YOU and its YOUR job to heal. Not others to accomodate you - nice if it happens, but NOT nice when it happens all the time - its hiding the trauma, instead of dealig with triggers. 

[VanGnome]

11 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

That is their psychological problem that THEY need to face to. We are not going to enable trauma mechanisms by covering up society for every known trauma to mankind- which means ALL cultural aspects are traumatic to someone or another. Its YOUR job to deal with your trauma. Not mine.  No, i have not been raped, but i have had attempts on my person by racist f*ckwits because of my skin color (white Nazi-sympathizers). I still won't ask to censor their speech, neither was i demanding every white dude with the same haircut who tried to kill me,  to put on a wig either. 

First rule of healing, is to realize the damage lies with YOU and its YOUR job to heal. Not others to accomodate you - nice if it happens, but NOT nice when it happens all the time - its hiding the trauma, instead of dealig with triggers. 

This. This absolutely needs to be printed, framed and hung on the walls of every known location for SJW congregation. The simple fact is, there is a CULTURE of dissociating oneself from the responsibility of dealing with personal issues. It's always someone else' fault, never theirs.

I technically qualify as a millenial, but my parents and grandparents raised me right. If I tried to pull ANY measure of the crap that SJWs do these days it would not have stood. I don't necessarily blame the individuals themselves, as they are merely a byproduct of, for lack of a better term inadequate parenting (either over parenting or just not enough parenting), and being enabled by the public education system and the whole participation award mentality. That same mentality from a lot of reports seems to be pervasive in post secondary institutions as well.

There generally seems to be this incessant normalizing or acceptance of the deferment of responsibility well into adulthood. People with relatively little to no life or world experience are espousing things they have no business pretending to be an authority on.

I find it funny, that if SJWs had their way, and the world was EXACTLY as they want it to be, then the situations we face daily in the world would be magnified by an order of magnitude. Nothing would get done, society would inherently devolve and we would all end up as hyper tribalists.

[canuckistani]

1 hour ago, Heretic said:

Did you read that blog?  Do you know someone that has been raped?  Do you know about what can trigger them into feeling that again?  Were you for or against Sir John A MacDonald's statue coming down?  

PS: I am *not* in favor of re-writing history but ACCEPTING all history. This means accepting the fact that once upon a time, people glorified ones we don't agree with. The statue standing, is a reminder of that fact. So yes, as a colored person, i am 100% in favor of leaving every single statue, edifice, etc. in their place. 

FYI,  where i come from, people were trying to take down the statue of a king who *genocided* us. A lot of us protested it - including myself. So J.A.McDonald is a small fish in my eyes.

[Sweathog]

I think the whole thing is ridiculous. It's obvious that the intent of this song is not to promote rape or anything like that.

 

I don't buy the "outdated" argument either. Do we now ban westerns because people no longer resolve their differences by killing each other at high noon?

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, Sweathog said:

I think the whole thing is ridiculous. It's obvious that the intent of this song is not to promote rape or anything like that.

 

I don't buy the "outdated" argument either. Do we now ban westerns because people no longer resolve their differences by killing each other at high noon?

It’s an old song, and not a very good one either.  Considering the time it was written, rape was clearly not the intent of the lyricist.  Still, radio stations have the right to play what they want.  The issue is CBC is a public broadcaster.  Are they truly representing the majority, or only the vocal minority?

[Sweathog]

2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

It’s an old song, and not a very good one either.  Considering the time it was written, rape was clearly not the intent of the lyricist.  Still, radio stations have the right to play what they want.  The issue is CBC is a public broadcaster.  Are they truly representing the majority, or only the vocal minority?

I agree, it's not a very good song. It certainly is no "singing in the rain" (frickin love that song) when it comes to the old classics. I also agree that it's their choice whether a private radio station chooses to play a song or not.

 

My guess is that it's the vocal minority that's speaking up against this song. Even if it is the majority, I find it worrisome to ban a song based on some people's subjective interpretation of it.

[kingofsurrey]

Old song that doesn't quite sound appropriate now days......

 

Move on... nothing to see here. 

[CBH1926]

Song was on the radio tonight, those that are bothered by it, can change the station.

[Dazzle]

30 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

Old song that doesn't quite sound appropriate now days......

 

Move on... nothing to see here. 

You don't sound appropriate around here.

 

Almost every time I see one of your posts, I move along because there's nothing to see. Once again, this is proof.

 

Having read the lyrics, I have no freaking clue how people can arrive at the conclusion that the song is about rape. I thought yes means yes and no means no?

 

At no point did she say 'no' and she wasn't under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

 

The whole #metoo movement is doing more bad than it is doing good right now, quite honestly,  but no one will say it because it will cost them their job, which literally has nothing to do with how they are performing, nor do their views affect their workplace, unless it is actually distracting the productivity.

 

We as a society need to find the balls to speak up about how we feel.

[kingofsurrey]

14 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

You don't sound appropriate around here.

 

Almost every time I see one of your posts, I move along because there's nothing to see. Once again, this is proof.

 

Having read the lyrics, I have no freaking clue how people can arrive at the conclusion that the song is about rape. I thought yes means yes and no means no?

 

At no point did she say 'no' and she wasn't under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

 

The whole #metoo movement is doing more bad than it is doing good right now, quite honestly,  but no one will say it because it will cost them their job, which literally has nothing to do with how they are performing, nor do their views affect their workplace, unless it is actually distracting the productivity.

 

We as a society need to find the balls to speak up about how we feel.

What a load of crap. I have actually no recollection of anything u have ever posted....   The #metoo movement is a positive thing and men for sure do have to pay attention.  Its about time too.

[Sweathog]

2 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Old song that doesn't quite sound appropriate now days......

In your opinion. But that's the point isn't it, that it's your opinion?

 

There's a lot of other people who feel quite differently, who believe that this song is not inappropriate at all. So why should it be banned?

[kingofsurrey]

1 hour ago, Sweathog said:

In your opinion. But that's the point isn't it, that it's your opinion?

 

There's a lot of other people who feel quite differently, who believe that this song is not inappropriate at all. So why should it be banned?

Whats your point ?

 

I am not in favour of banning things.. I respect freedom of speech.

 

I do think the song is super pervy though..... 

 

“Say what’s in this drink? (No cabs to be had out there)”
 

 

  but heh, whatever floats your boat.....

[DefCon1]

1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said:

Whats your point ?

 

I am not in favour of banning things.. I respect freedom of speech.

 

I do think the song is super pervy though..... 

 

“Say what’s in this drink? (No cabs to be had out there)”
 

 

  but heh, whatever floats your boat.....

I don't find the song "Pervy". I actually like the song and didn't mind the lyrics at all. I think some people just have their mind focused on the negatives and on dirty aspects so they feel its "pervy" or a rape song. If you have a mind to think like that and take things out of context, a lot of things will sound "pervy". I wonder what they think about 99% of rap songs. There are rap songs that literally talk about raping and murdering someone while half of it is censored but I don't see the feminist movement doing anything about that. So many problems in this world and so many issues, yet they are trying to ban one Christmas song like it will have any impact at all on anything. Not only it wouldn't have any impact, it might actually do the opposite and backfire. 

[HomeBrew]

15 hours ago, VanGnome said:

That's not at ALL what I was saying lol. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills a bit there bud. I was not aware that there was an additional definition of consent other than granting permission for something to happen, or an agreement to allow something to be done. Or is this more cryptic virtue signaling of the left, and yet another attempt bring ambiguity to the table, muddying the waters because you're incapable of having sound and rational debate?

Clueless indeed. Maybe try having this debate with your daughter - you might learn something.

[Ronaldoescobar]

The real pull all rap from radio for swears!

[Bill Sikes]

8 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Whats your point ?

 

I am not in favour of banning things.. I respect freedom of speech.

 

I do think the song is super pervy though..... 

 

“Say what’s in this drink? (No cabs to be had out there)”
 

 

  but heh, whatever floats your boat.....

https://www.shared.com/baby-its-cold-outside-not-creepy/

[JM_]

16 hours ago, aGENT said:

Agree it was redundant (and unnecessary).

 

Ask Lindsay Shephard how 'symbolic' it was.

 

And don't get me started on the nonsense in the BC Human Rights Code...

 

 

sounds to me like thats being worked out (https://globalnews.ca/news/4272268/wilfrid-laurier-ta-lindsay-shepherd-sues-university/). Just because there's a dust up every now and then it doesn't mean society is sinking into the toilet. 

 

[aGENT]

Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

sounds to me like thats being worked out (https://globalnews.ca/news/4272268/wilfrid-laurier-ta-lindsay-shepherd-sues-university/). Just because there's a dust up every now and then downs't mean society is sinking into the toilet. 

Never said it was sinking in to the toilet. 

 

But if you don't think there's a very determined, vocal minority out there working hard at infecting our schools, governments, corporations etc with extremely dangerous, ideology based nonsense, including and up to Marxism, you're not paying close enough attention. 

 

This is precisely how things like Marxism and Nazism got started in Russia and Germany. A small group of people start making legal changes, indoctrinating students and the average person turns a blind eye. I'd prefer we learned from the mistakes of the past, thanks. 

[JM_]

1 minute ago, aGENT said:

Never said it was sinking in to the toilet. 

 

But if you don't think there's a very determined, vocal minority out there working hard at infecting our schools, governments, corporations etc with extremely dangerous, ideology based nonsense, including and up to Marxism, you're not paying close enough attention. 

 

This is precisely how things like Marxism and Nazism got started in Russia and Germany. A small group of people start making legal changes, indoctrinating students and the average person turns a blind eye. I'd prefer we learned from the mistakes of the past, thanks. 

but that kind of thing has been going on forever, there was probably some angry monkey at the first fireside chat trying to convince the troop of something. 

 

We can't be afraid of debate and ideas, and i don't think there's really anything all that "new" in the discussions. I think whats different than before going on now tho is post-secondary administrations have become spineless minions led around by risk management. Any "controversy" sends them into a tizzy of bad decisions that have nothing to do with academic freedom. They're afraid of bad press more than anything else.