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Had a good chat with a pal about this. 

 

Hughes is a must this draft. I’m paraphrasing but at the 2018 draft Jack all but said the same thing. 

 

I hope they dont finish too high this year and get a little lotto luck. 

 

Assuming they don’t win first overall I would throw whatever it took plus picks towards getting Jack. 

 

Obviously Bo, EP, Brock, Quinn are untouchable and not going anywhere. 

 

I also would keep JV and Adam G and would have a very tough time letting either one go. 

 

In my head assuming the Canucks have a first round pick in the top 5 I would send the first round and second plus Tanev and ? for the first OA. 

 

If they get Jack the center position is top notch for the next decade. Build around whatever is left. 

 

EP, Hughes, Horvat, Gaudette. That’s a crazy amount of talent once seasoned. 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

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First off, the draft lottery sucks.  As bad as we’ve been the past 3 years, we’ve drafted exactly where, statistically speaking, we had the best odds.  Hence, even if we end up, say second worst, we still are statistically most likely to pick 5th.  It’s a crappy system, but we have gotten Petey and Hughes out of it, so...it is what it is.

 

Having said that, Petey moves to the wing.

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13 minutes ago, Brovat said:

Had a good chat with a pal about this. 

 

Hughes is a must this draft. I’m paraphrasing but at the 2018 draft Jack all but said the same thing. 

 

I hope they dont finish too high this year and get a little lotto luck. 

 

Assuming they don’t win first overall I would throw whatever it took plus picks towards getting Jack. 

 

Obviously Bo, EP, Brock, Quinn are untouchable and not going anywhere. 

 

I also would keep JV and Adam G and would have a very tough time letting either one go. 

 

In my head assuming the Canucks have a first round pick in the top 5 I would send the first round and second plus Tanev and ? for the first OA. 

 

If they get Jack the center position is top notch for the next decade. Build around whatever is left. 

 

EP, Hughes, Horvat, Gaudette. That’s a crazy amount of talent once seasoned. 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

It'll cost a young extremely talented forward with that 5 OA to obtain the 1st. No way a team lets go of the 1st overall pick without absolutely robbing a team blind. Especially with how talented Jack Hughes is. 

 

Let's say the Canucks land Jack Hughes there does become an issue with the center depth. Bo is too talented to be buried down the depth chart so why not run a system like:

 

Hughes - Pettersson - Boeser

Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen ? 

 

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9 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

If we were to draft Hughes, I imagine either him or Pettersson would eventually be moved to the wing. 

Yep. And from what i've seen, its most likely going to be Hughes - Petey is stronger at center, plus the 'Patrick Kane-like puck on a string circling around till you find an outlet' style of Hughes is better suited at wing. 
He most likely goes on wing with Bo or if on Petey's wing, we better trade for a Hulk/King-kong to keep these two lightweights from dying due to having way too much skill compared to brawn. 

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4 minutes ago, Jaku said:

It'll cost a young extremely talented forward with that 5 OA to obtain the 1st. No way a team lets go of the 1st overall pick without absolutely robbing a team blind. Especially with how talented Jack Hughes is. 

 

Let's say the Canucks land Jack Hughes there does become an issue with the center depth. Bo is too talented to be buried down the depth chart so why not run a system like:

 

Hughes - Pettersson - Boeser

Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen ? 

 

Cool. Send them. Dahlen, Goldy, Mackewan. I don’t know what it would take but I’d send anything outside of my protected guys and deal with it after the fact. $&!# send Sutter too. Who cares the payoff is too big. 

 

I dont agree that EP would go to the wing. He’s too good in the middle. 

 

As far as AG proving himself he has a couple years with Beagle in the mix and that’s just fine. Gaunce and AG for injuries is also just fine. 

 

Bo is an animal wherever he slots in. This is what makes Jack so valuable in my mind. 

 

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Just now, Brovat said:

Cool. Send them. Dahlen, Goldy, Mackewan. I don’t know what it would take but I’d send anything outside of my protected guys and deal with it after the fact. $&!# send Sutter too. Who cares the payoff is too big. 

 

I dont agree that EP would go to the wing. He’s too good in the middle. 

 

As far as AG proving himself he has a couple years with Beagle in the mix and that’s just fine. Gaunce and AG for injuries is also just fine. 

 

Bo is an animal wherever he slots in. This is what makes Jack so valuable in my mind. 

 

No one is trading the 1OA or even 2OA this year without getting a 1st round pick from us, plus one of Brock, Bo, EP, Hughes. Thats where the conversation starts, really. We are either going to get 1/2OA with the lottery favoring us or we are not drafting either Hughes or Kakko. Its just that simple, bud. Other teams are not fools. They know that these two guys are gonna hit the ground running straight-away and have potential to be HoF players. 

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4 minutes ago, canuckistani said:

No one is trading the 1OA or even 2OA this year without getting a 1st round pick from us, plus one of Brock, Bo, EP, Hughes. Thats where the conversation starts, really. We are either going to get 1/2OA with the lottery favoring us or we are not drafting either Hughes or Kakko. Its just that simple, bud. Other teams are not fools. They know that these two guys are gonna hit the ground running straight-away and have potential to be HoF players. 

Fair. I can agree. 

 

I think there’s enough in the ranks to make it happen. You don’t and that’s AOK. 

 

As a disclaimer if this doesnt happen I won’t view management as a failure or anything. I understand it takes 2 sides to make a deal. 

 

First, second, Sutter, Goldy, Dahlen wouldn’t come close though? I dunno I find that hard to believe. I’m not saying send Hutton and Gagner. Haha

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By the way, i hate to rain on you guys's parade, but if anyone trades up for 1OA, its gonna be Toronto. 
They got the pieces to offer, they are facing a cap-crunch doom scenario and getting a productive player with potential HoF career who costs less than a million for next 3 years will be appealing to them.


Depends a lot on WHO wins 1/2OA and their needs. But Toronto is the best placed team right now to offer 1st rounder + Marner/Kapanen + pieces and its likely going to be the strongest offer available. Its definitely an offer we can match but won't want to. 

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2 minutes ago, Brovat said:

Fair. I can agree. 

 

I think there’s enough in the ranks to make it happen. You don’t and that’s AOK. 

 

As a disclaimer if this doesnt happen I won’t view management as a failure or anything. I understand it takes 2 sides to make a deal. 

 

First, second, Sutter, Goldy, Dahlen wouldn’t come close though? I dunno I find that hard to believe. I’m not saying send Hutton and Gagner. Haha

No. Not even close.

Would we trade EP for 1st, 2nd, Jeff Carter, Toffoli and Kempe ? The answer is a flat no. If throwing in a bunch of draft picks and 2nd/3rd line players could get you a near-generational player, you'd imagine these chaps would get traded more, instead of almost never ever traded. 

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1 minute ago, canuckistani said:

No. Not even close.

Would we trade EP for 1st, 2nd, Jeff Carter, Toffoli and Kempe ? The answer is a flat no. If throwing in a bunch of draft picks and 2nd/3rd line players could get you a near-generational player, you'd imagine these chaps would get traded more, instead of almost never ever traded. 

I might depending who that got me with the first round pick and if certain players filled holes. 

 

Bread man got moved from Chicago. All depends. Not the best example but you know what I’m getting at. 

 

Would the Canucks trade EP right now for Jack straight across? 

 

Would you let EP go for 3 first round picks? I would depending on where my team was in the rebuild. Nomsayin? Probably wouldn’t let him go for that on this team at the moment. 

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