PhillipBlunt Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 14 hours ago, therodigy said: At least it's not just Canucks fans who feel this way. Check it out starting at around 3:12. Tim and Sid are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: No but then they would implement a new rule about a blindside hit if this was the case. The league is concerned about concussions and this hit as a result led to a concussion. If not suspendable, then it should at the very least be a major or a game misconduct. If not for hit itself, to mitigate the retaliation. The game could have given Martel a concussion or whatever with the fists thrown at him, it nearly led to Pettersson getting run, and I don't know if this was part of it, but Edler nearly took out Kucherov. If that 2nd period lasted any longer, there may have been a bench brawl. All this because the refs decided it was only worth a 2 min interference call (which was the wrong call anyway). I think Edler may have got a partial spear in on that play too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, skategal said: Why? What purpose does that serve? Would Gudbranson feel good about it? I doubt it. What if Kucherov never came back from the injury that might result from the hit? Is it worth the long term damage to him? Is it better for the game of hockey overall that he's playing or injured? I don't like what happened to Stech, don't like what happened to Baer, but no way do I want our players to play in a way that they deliberately injure other players. I would hope that no one wants that. I understand that emotions get high in the moment, but take a step back and realize what you are advocating for. While I agree with what you are saying, I believe his intentions is more to demonstrate that had it been Gudbranson on Kucherov, then we would indeed see a suspension. While I don't actually wish for it, the league itself needs to take a step back and realize what they are indeed allowing and therefore condoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: I think Edler may have got a partial spear in on that play too. Edler gave a spear or received? I didn't notice that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Tim and Sid are awesome. "he deserves applause" - thats my take on Guddy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Edler gave a spear or received? I didn't notice that. I thought when Edler hit him he has a little extra stick in there too. Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, skategal said: Why? What purpose does that serve? That no one is safe in the league because both the refs and DoPS certainly don't care. 3 minutes ago, skategal said: Would Gudbranson feel good about it? I doubt it. Who knows? 3 minutes ago, skategal said: What if Kucherov never came back from the injury that might result from the hit? Well, then the Lightning management would probably want to take that up with the league. 3 minutes ago, skategal said: Is it worth the long term damage to him? Is it better for the game of hockey overall that he's playing or injured? The game of hockey is only as good as the players are, and how they treat each other. Clearly, there is a disconnect. 3 minutes ago, skategal said: I don't like what happened to Stech, don't like what happened to Baer, but no way do I want our players to play in a way that they deliberately injure other players. I would hope that no one wants that. I understand that emotions get high in the moment, but take a step back and realize what you are advocating for. I know exactly what I'm advocating for, thanks. If players that aren't necessarily considered star players aren't safe and aren't given equal treatment in the eyes of the league, then star players should be keeping their heads on a swivel as well. The NHLPA needs to step in and demand accountability from the league on this as a united front. If they don't, they're asking for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, theo5789 said: While I agree with what you are saying, I believe his intentions is more to demonstrate that had it been Gudbranson on Kucherov, then we would indeed see a suspension. While I don't actually wish for it, the league itself needs to take a step back and realize what they are indeed allowing and therefore condoning. Exactly, theo5789. Thanks for seeing it for what it is. I don't want any player to be injured by another's lack of respect or compassion. This league and it's antiquated department of player safety couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: "he deserves applause" - thats my take on Guddy too. Same. They should have pulled everyone else off, and just let Gudbranson tune Martel. That pipsqueak would be begging for a suspension then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: So if Roussel had taken it upon himself to blindside hit Stamkos into a concussion we're expected to believe there would be no suspension? thats correct, green even told the ref if that was stamkois that would have been 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, skategal said: Why? What purpose does that serve? Would Gudbranson feel good about it? I doubt it. What if Kucherov never came back from the injury that might result from the hit? Is it worth the long term damage to him? Is it better for the game of hockey overall that he's playing or injured? I don't like what happened to Stech, don't like what happened to Baer, but no way do I want our players to play in a way that they deliberately injure other players. I would hope that no one wants that. I understand that emotions get high in the moment, but take a step back and realize what you are advocating for. thats how you send a mesage to the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: The NHLPA needs to step in and demand accountability from the league on this as a united front. If they don't, they're asking for this. Quite right ! I don't understand the NHLPA, most of what they get vocal about benefits the top 20% of talent. They seem to ignore the rank and file. Andrew Alberts type players don't seem to matter to them. You'd think that the 'meat and potato' types would have more of a voice. They are the majority ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Department of Player Safety does not have a rule in place? How pathetic So hitting someone blindsided to the head when they can't see it coming and hopefully protect themselves is considered fair game? If a worker was being careless at work and dangerous and hurting and concussing other people with his wreckless behaviour he would be fined, disciplined and especially terminated after repeated infractions NHLPA needs to insist all lives are important on infractions in the next CBA, and not just the ones who draw more money in for the owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Soooooo, could someone please explain to me why Virtanen was suspended for his (non-injurious) hit on Polak? Oh yeah, it was "predatory" and "violent". Hyka's and McLeod's hits to concuss Baertschi and Kadri's which knocked Daniel's helmet flying were evidently "hockey plays" as well, because they weren't late. Late shoulder-to-shoulder however are not and are suspendable offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 #DoPSareDopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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