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the Rise of Bolsonaro. the ultra-conservative next Brazilian president


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ok 1st things 1st

 

this is A PERSONAL OPINION RIGHT FROM THE FIELD and reflect the BRAZILIAN REALITY not the Canadian or the American one. so before say this and that try understand that many countries are NOT USA

 

 

 

FROM THE MILITARY TO THE PRESIDENCY

 

yes Bolsonaro is from the military and served a lond time on it before becoming a politician, a federal congressman before having a crazy idea of being presidente and to be honest at the time yes it sounded REALLY crazy because he wasn´t a "carrer politician" like the other ones in Brazil and his opinions manytimes make Trump sound like a monk or a Jedi

 

but the fact that a combination of massive corruption scandals, economic crisis, impeachment right in the middle of the Rio 2016 Olympics and a lot of other things made that hardcore impulsive military guy pretty much appealing because well. He was saying what the Brazilian people felt

 

Brazilians were/are angry with years of massive corruption scandals, economic crisis, low morale, violence and the Military was Always seemed as the "ultimate bastian of the Brazilian values" (whatever they are) and Brazilians Always felt some sort of nostalgia of the years of the Military Government (many people call it "military dictatorship" but it wasn´t) so seemed logic bring a military back to the presidency in order to restore those "Golden years"

 

in less than 2 years that crazy idea of a military presidente elected on a democratic way gained a lot of power and without realising it Brazilians elected a Military presidente...

 

 

LIKE DONALD TRUMP BUT NOT LIKE DONALD TRUMP

 

Many people might say that Bolsonaro is just a "tropical version" of Donald Trump but if you look deeper he is not

 

yes Bolsonaro is conservative, VERY conservative actually and in many cases to the point that will make Trump look like a Liberal Democrat and the explanation of this is because Bolsonaro unlike Trump has a military background...

 

Yes sounds confusing but welcome to the Brazilian Politics...

 

unlike Trump Bolsonaro was a military (Army) before being a politician and also unlike Trump Bolsonaro spent some time as a congressman before deciding candidate himself to rule one of the biggest economies on Earth. these 2 things gave Bolsonaro experience both in discipline but also knowing how the dirty aspects of how politics Works so when he decided candidate himself he knew the challenges he would face

 

 

Bolsonaro has a military experience and his vice-presidente is also a military and due to the brazilian elections a LOT of military people were elected as politicians so basically in terms of military strategy Brazil is well served for at least 4 years ranging from Navy to the Air Force

 

if you ask me I would say simply Bolsonaro is not a "conservative" or a "liberal", he´s a presidente with a very militarized style. the media says he´s "ultra-conservative" but in fact Bolsonaro is not an easy person to say "you follow this way"

 

 

 

ELECTING A MILITARY GOVERNMENT, ON A DEMOCRATIC WAY. WELCOME TO THE "WTF OF THE REAL LIFE"

 

Imagine if USA decided to elect more than half of its military as politicians and the president is a military...

 

and oh yeah, his vice is also from the military, ministers, embassadors etc. all from the military

 

Before you say "that´s sounds wierd"  I will say this to you...

 

YES IT´S WIERD AS F$&$ BUT IT WAS DONE DEMOCRATICALY

 

To be honest it was the result of Brazilians demanding changes, the previous government was a huge gigantic mess and Brazilians wanted a hardcore change and the military was this change

 

 

 HOW THE HELL THE BRAZILIAN ELECTIONS WORK?

 

Unlike USA but pretty much like the rest of the planet elections in Brazil are based on numbers, the candidate with biggest amount of votes win...

 

basically Brazil has 2 elections. the "main" and the "city"

 

the main one elects the President, Governors, Senators, federal and state representatives and sometimes some reverendums are included...

 

the "city" is basically just for mayor and city councils. Brazilians want unify it in all-at-once big election to solve this problem

 

votes are based on a voting machine similar to an ATM. each candidate receive a number and all you have to do is type this number on the voting machine on the folowing order. here´s an example:

 

State congressman (on the state you are REGISTERED): 12345

 

Federal congressman (on the state you are REGISTERED): 1234

 

Senator: 123

 

Senator: 123

 

Governor: 12

 

President: 12

 

all you have to do it type the numbers of you choosen candidates and press "confirm" before proceed to the next candidate, once you vote for president and press the green button again your session is finished and the next person can vote. this process normally takes 1 minute or less

 

 

Brazilians CAN VOTE ABROAD on any Brazilian embassy but on this case you can only vote for president this is why some crazy stuff of "Brazilian electoral section in Tokyo" happens because Brazilians abroad can vote too

 

 

THE 5 REGIONS OF BRAZIL

 

Win in 3 and you win the country and that´s pretty much it right?

 

errrr not so much...

 

Brazil is basically divided in 5 regions:

 

North (as you might imagine yes it´s where the Amazon jungle is located)

 

Central-West (basically if Texas was an entire part of a country and not just a state)

 

Southeast (where the "Syria of Latin América" a.k.a Rio de Janeiro is located, and also São Paulo biggest city in Latin América)

 

South (home of the biggest amount of Germany people per square KM outside Germany)

 

Northeast (sunny weather, glorious beaches and a local accent that only a Kligdon can understand)

 

the most populated region is the Southeast followed but the South and Central-West, Northeast is something between and as usual not many people live in the Amazon Jungle since it´s hot like hell and the wild animals hate humans but love human meat...

 

Before being a crying baby I AM FROM THE AMAZON JUNGLE (MANAUS) and I´m being pretty much accurate here

 

 

saying this you have to understand that the profile of each region is diferente and so they tent to choose politicians differently

 

people from the North tent to like Military related people because let´s face it it´s the military that keeps the jungle develped, meanwhile people from the southeast like "pro-Market" candidates while in the South and Central-West things are more agricultural focused and Northeast being the poorest region in Brazil requires heavy government assistance...

 

anyway. Bolsonaro won in 4 regions while the other guy won in just 1...

 

 

WHILE YOU ENJOYED THE RIO 2016 OLYMPICS BRAZILIANS WERE FACIND A PRESIDENTIAL IMPEACHMENT

 

Nothing more refreshing than a presidential impeachment right in the middle of the biggest sport event on Earth right?

 

yeah guess what that what was happening...

 

while you guys enjoyed people winning gold medals and listening some damm annoying samba Brazilians were more interested about the presidential impeachment happening at the same time...

 

why is this important? because IT DECIDED THE 2018 ELECTION

 

without Dilma being impeached Bolsonaro wouldn´t have this astronomical rise and without the impeachment and the consequences of corruption investigations the future of Brazil would be a LOT more diferent. BUT that´s a history for another time...

 

 

BOLSONARO MEANS A CHANGE, AND NO HE´S NOT A FACIST VERSION OF TRUMP THE MEDIA SAYS

 

Bolsonaro is not like Trump on many things and one of them is that Bolsonaro is actually able to tell the media to "shut up and go investigate the real problems of this country"

 

Bolsonaro represent the vast majority of Brazilians (including me) that want a change, the previous ultra-socialist government destroyed Brazil to the bones and Bolsonaro and the military were seen as a complete change. like a COMPLETE CHANGE

 

Bolsonaro and the military actually made the Brazilian people embrace something new for many Brazilians called "Patriotism" and "being proud of you country" and honesty this is awesome!

 

Brazil has a ton of problems but we have some very good things too and the morale of the Brazilian people were very very low, for many this instant change of "our country sucks" to             "let´s fight for our country" was not only welcomed but was also refreshing

 

Bolsonaro is bold, he´s not afraid of fight and he´s not like Trump who try put the people on his side on a soft approach...

 

nope. the next Brazilian president uses a new approach much simpler...

 

"fight for your nation before they take it from you"

 

Bolsonaro is pro-immigration and refugees BUT DONE CORRECTLY. you want come that´s great how about work in the jungle? we need people there to help developt the region! South and southeast are already full of people but if you want move from Syria right to the middle of the Amazon jungle and hlp developt it you´re very very welcomed!

 

 

A NEW CHANGE, A NEW BET, A NEW FUTURE

 

Before finish the fact is simple. Bolsonaro is a bet, a gamble "Las Vegas Style"

 

We want a better future, a new future and the current government is not giving us this future...

 

Bolsonaro can be the new super hero of Brazil or can be just a regular president...

 

 

we will start knowing this at January 1st 2019

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, aeromotacanucks said:

Bolsonaro is not like Trump on many things and one of them is that Bolsonaro is actually able to tell the media to "shut up and go investigate the real problems of this country"

I hear he also ordered a fresh batch of polonium. Exciting times ahead for Brazil. 

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8 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Homophobic, racist, sexist, attacks on the media, willing to destroy the planet.  While he might have some different policies than Cheeto Hitler, when it comes to minimal standards of human decency, he may be an even bigger failure than Trump.

Nope. He wants order and the end of "victimization of the society" and this is why Brazilians elected him...

 

No more "everything offends me" in Brazil 

 

We're tired

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Just now, aeromotacanucks said:

Nope. He wants order and the end of "victimization of the society and this is why Brazilians elected him...

 

No more "everything offends me" in Brazil 

 

We're tired

Yeah, a president who admits to be incapable of loving a gay son sure seems like a positive step forward.

 

Your president is a bigoted piece of ****.

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Yes it's a positive way you know WHY?

 

Because his opponent wanted to PUBLIC FUND SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS 

 

Wanna change from a boy to a girl? Good for you but use PRIVATE MONEY 

 

Violence is already reducing because his new "shoot to kill" initiative is scaring the bad guys...

 

He won by a 11 MILLION vote margin. That means 11% ahead

 

It's a change. Time to end the "victimization" 

 

Be what you want but stop nagging about it

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10 minutes ago, aeromotacanucks said:

Yes it's a positive way you know WHY?

 

Because his opponent wanted to PUBLIC FUND SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS 

 

Wanna change from a boy to a girl? Good for you but use PRIVATE MONEY 

Don't care. Homophobia isn't justified just because you disagree with your opponent's policy.

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Violence is already reducing because his new "shoot to kill" initiative is scaring the bad guys...

Right because the perpetrators of the violence in a dictatorship are often those that are empowered by the autocrat. 

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He won by a 11 MILLION vote margin. That means 11% ahead

 

It's a change. Time to end the "victimization" 

 

Be what you want but stop nagging about it

Actually the victimization has just begun. You have elected a dictator, and we have enough precedence to see how that usually ends up. 

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Since i am not Brazilian, i have no idea of the ground realities there, i am in no position to insert my Indo-Canadian sensibilities and judge. 
Only time will tell if Bolsonaro is good or bad for Brazil as a whole. 

Identity politics is a first world problem, hence the first world focuses on it and thinks its a problem. But in the Maslowvian scale of priorities, there are much bigger fish to fry first before you get to the point of whether a president's personal opinion on sexuality or gender is even relevant. I have no idea where Brazil is, on this spectrum.

So judgement withheld. 

 

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39 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Homophobic, racist, sexist, attacks on the media, willing to destroy the planet.  While he might have some different policies than Cheeto Hitler, when it comes to minimal standards of human decency, he may be an even bigger failure than Trump.

Lol cheeto hitler.:lol:

Meanwhile he's being attacked for pulling troops out of Syria.

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10 minutes ago, Toews said:

Don't care. Homophobia isn't justified just because you disagree with your opponent's policy.

Right because the perpetrators of the violence in a dictatorship are often those that are empowered by the autocrat. 

Actually the victimization has just begun. You have elected a dictator, and we have enough precedence to see how that usually ends up. 

Amazing how an "anti gay" president gets more votes from gays than the other guy...

 

The new guy has a simple idea

 

"Be what you want but don't disturb people just because you choose a different path"

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15 minutes ago, aeromotacanucks said:

Amazing how an "anti gay" president gets more votes from gays than the other guy...

 

The new guy has a simple idea

 

"Be what you want but don't disturb people just because you choose a different path"

I support that but have heard this guy has made some outlandish comments. I don't follow Brazilian politics just know their last government was pretty corrupt and I think put the country in massive debt.

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11 minutes ago, aeromotacanucks said:

Amazing how an "anti gay" president gets more votes from gays than the other guy...

 

The new guy has a simple idea

 

"Be what you want but don't disturb people just because you choose a different path"

Would help your credibility a million times if you can show evidence for the bolded part.....

 

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1 hour ago, aeromotacanucks said:

Nope. He wants order and the end of "victimization of the society" and this is why Brazilians elected him...

 

No more "everything offends me" in Brazil 

 

We're tired

but aren't you at all concerned about electing someone with such strong ties to the military? do you really think he'll ever leave office willingly? you may have just elected a "president for life". I really hope not but he certainly has all the tools to try something like that. 

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5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

more in that he's ceding Syria and Afghanistan to Russia. Who happens to also play well with Iran. Fun times. 

The US much like Canada never should have been in Syria. That has been a vassal state of Russia for like 60 years.

 

And America plays very well with Arabia, what is your point?

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1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

The US much like Canada never should have been in Syria. That has been a vassal state of Russia for like 60 years.

thats debatable, but allowing Putin to take over Syria, and with his ties to Iran what do you think happens next in Iraq? nothing about the US pulling out completely is good imo, even a couple of thousand troops is a major deterrent. We'll see but I think war is coming again for Iraq and then who the hell knows what goes on from there. 

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16 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

thats debatable, but allowing Putin to take over Syria, and with his ties to Iran what do you think happens next in Iraq? nothing about the US pulling out completely is good imo, even a couple of thousand troops is a major deterrent. We'll see but I think war is coming again for Iraq and then who the hell knows what goes on from there. 

War between the big boppers will happen; it’s inevitable.  They will not fight on their own soil though.  

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