[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Edmonton Oilers | Dec. 27, 2018

[stawns]

2 minutes ago, Dannydog said:

Where would you rank him in regards to our D roster?

he's a 6-8 dman, right now.

[bobbyg43]

13 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

Waiver exempt and he can go tear up the AHL. It would be best instead of burying him on the 4th line or in the pressbox

I would concur with your analogy.Rather he be playing more minutes in various situations an building up his repertoire of skill sets etc, 

on side note playing alongside character players is extremely good also..This may slow his career development path down somewhat comparable to Virtannen timeline with fewer minutes building up is resume an responsibilities assignments ? Perhaps the budget sheet says either or as development stream.? Seasoning in the best league would still have immense pay back at a point in time either way must be a ++++

[Hairy Kneel]

6 hours ago, Jaimito said:

Our jesus > their jesus

 

[Hairy Kneel]

5 hours ago, -AJ- said:

Props to Eriksson for being a leader in this way and giving Pettersson some company on Christmas.

BYOB

[Dannydog]

2 minutes ago, stawns said:

he's a 6-8 dman, right now.

Ya 7 just above del Zotto

[EdgarM]

Last night was a good example of where our team is at right now: JB has assembled a "TEAM" which has the parts which makes a team successful. 

 

1) The young guys show heart and character and produced last night despite more then normal pressure from the opposition.

2) The goaltending has improved and most likely has to do with the new goalie coach. Although Markstrom has played great as of late, he is really playing to a level an NHL regular would and that's not bad. Time will tell if he can do this consistently. 

3) Our energy and pests are doing their jobs and Motte and Roussel are keeping the opposition on their toes.

4) Our defensive guys are shutting down the oppositions toplines and giving our offensive guys a chance to win games. Beagle and Roussel were very good acquisitions.

5) Veteran leadership is combining it all together and keeping this team to playing a high level most nights. They are also keeping a calming effect on the young guys.(i.e.Tanev,Edler and Beagle) 

6) We have a good balance of big bodies(Guddy,Eddy,Beagle,Virtanen) to offset our smaller, faster players. We have been bounced around in previous seasons and although I think we could still add to this, we have adequate size to make us respectable.

 

The heart and character these guys are exhuding is what is surprising me the most. The defensive play that EP has demonstrated so far has far exceeded what a player of his size and experience would normally display. Despite injury, both EP and Boes have shown they can fight through it and excel. 

I think with another big winger, another big dman and Q. Hughes in our line up, we will be able to compete beyond the regular season. Good things are coming for sure.

[Pete M]

7 hours ago, teepain said:

He has 2 way contract , he is going down . asset management. They will send biega down again . He is the easiest to get by the waivers

waive send down Gaudette, weakens the team....he is good defensively, strong, fast and durable and only getting better...when he gets his confidence up, he will be Gaud......too good to send down.

[pluralsight]

11 hours ago, Green Building said:

Let's see where they're at in 5 years, but either way I was vehemently on record as %100 against Patrick becoming a Canuck. 

Relax with the logic, I was just putting up the facts as they are now  

[hammertime]

14 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

&^@# McDouchebag and his loser team. What a joke. 

Whats with the McDavid hate? I liked seeing him get a lil chippy out there if it was EP40 throwing a high hit on Kass then crosschecking McDavid to the ice I'd be cheering.

[Crabcakes]

3 hours ago, spook007 said:

Cheers...

That was my point too... he doesn't need to be waived, hence he is likely to go down... With a call up again if there is an injury.

He needs to play... will be disappointed if he is sat in the press box... 

The fact we now have players so decent we can't decide who to send down, speaks volume....

I like Gaudette but when Sutter comes back, he's going down.  He is developing but he is usually the low minute man on the team.  Last night was 7:03 and it's often less.  Just connecting the dots

[-DLC-]

Here's what I'm noticing/thinking....I take nothing away from McDavid, he's great.  But it seems it's easy to get in his head...and, with a coach who blames others when he fails to produce, it takes away some of the accountability.  Let's him off the hook.

 

EP's greatness comes with no satisfaction or complacency...even when he's great, he thinks he can be better.  He doesn't just expect it, he works hard for it.  He's pretty even keeled and rather than whine or blame when he's not finding the success that he'd like, he looks inward rather than outward.  Someone with that mentality is scary good because it's a matter of being a work in progress.  Who knows what the limit is with this kid.  It's pretty exciting. 

 

There's a confidence that is nicely balanced with being humble and thinking he could be better.  He doesn't just rely on the being the best, he's working on it constantly.  He doesn't whine about being mugged out there, he looks for ways to elude it.  That makes him better than the best, if that's possible.

[The Beagle had landed]

1 hour ago, bobbyg43 said:

Just shared with my son that perhaps this fourth line may be our best in recent an medium term memory. This will be the kind of line you need to have to go the distance in pursuit of Lord Stanley golden grail

With the current trajectory of the team, I would put us at 3 or 4 years at best to be a legitimate contender, which is why I always defended the 4 year deals they got.  

 

They were added to insulate our youth and allow them to develop properly.  4 years is the perfect time frame for that.

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

Here's what I'm noticing/thinking....I take nothing away from McDavid, he's great.  But it seems it's easy to get in his head...and, with a coach who blames others when he fails to produce, it takes away some of the accountability.

 

EP's greatness comes with no satisfaction or complacency...even when he's great, he thinks he can be better.  He doesn't just expect it, he works hard for it.  He's pretty even keeled and rather than whine or blame when he's not finding the success that he'd like, he looks inward rather than outward.  Someone with that mentality is scary good because it's a matter of being a work in progress.  Who knows what the limit is with this kid.  It's pretty exciting. 

 

There's a confidence that is nicely balanced with being humble and thinking he could be better.  He doesn't just rely on the being the best, he's working on it constantly.  He doesn't whine about being mugged out there, he looks for ways to elude it.

And EP is great without the puck.  I don’t think that can be said for McDavid

[The Beagle had landed]

4 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

Here's what I'm noticing/thinking....I take nothing away from McDavid, he's great.  But it seems it's easy to get in his head...and, with a coach who blames others when he fails to produce, it takes away some of the accountability.

 

EP's greatness comes with no satisfaction or complacency...even when he's great, he thinks he can be better.  He doesn't just expect it, he works hard for it.  He's pretty even keeled and rather than whine or blame when he's not finding the success that he'd like, he looks inward rather than outward.  Someone with that mentality is scary good because it's a matter of being a work in progress.  Who knows what the limit is with this kid.  It's pretty exciting. 

 

There's a confidence that is nicely balanced with being humble and thinking he could be better.  He doesn't just rely on the being the best, he's working on it constantly.  He doesn't whine about being mugged out there, he looks for ways to elude it.

I think thats on management and their failure to add a legitimate veteran leader.  The curse of having multiple first overalls is their belief that these kids were so good that they'd figure it out themselves.

 

It truly is a disgrace to the city, the fans, and the league in general that this organization continues to draft these amazing talents without any guidance or leadership.

 

I'm saying this as a fan of hockey.  I hate the Oilers and they're getting what they deserve, but these young players deserve much better.

[Samgagner'sface]

1 hour ago, Pete M said:

waive send down Gaudette, weakens the team....he is good defensively, strong, fast and durable and only getting better...when he gets his confidence up, he will be Gaud......too good to send down.

Then who gets sent down?

[NUCKER67]

I could sense McDavid's frustration. He came out guns a blazing at the end and couldn't produce. I think he feels he needs to do it all, but it's the media and their fans that expect him to carry the team on his back and deliver. Lots of pressure on him to bring EDM back to the Promiseland, but I wonder if it will take it's toll and he'll eventually want out. One player doesn't make a winning team.   

[Pete M]

12 minutes ago, Samgagner'sface said:

Then who gets sent down?

I'd make a trade...Granlund, Baer, Schaller ...take your pick and try and upgrade the 'D'.

 

...possibly Sutter if he can bring back someone good.

[hammertime]

21 minutes ago, The Beagle had landed said:

With the current trajectory of the team, I would put us at 3 or 4 years at best to be a legitimate contender, which is why I always defended the 4 year deals they got.  

 

They were added to insulate our youth and allow them to develop properly.  4 years is the perfect time frame for that.

Whoa hold the phone. 

 

From what I understand reading CDC is players start their decline at 25. This 4 years you speak of would put BO at 27, Goldobin 27, Virtanen at 26,  Dahlen 26, Gaudette 26, Boeser 25, in 4 years we would have to go scorched earth rebuild because everyone would be ready for the glue factory. 

 

Back me up CDC.

[Crabcakes]

35 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

Here's what I'm noticing/thinking....I take nothing away from McDavid, he's great.  But it seems it's easy to get in his head...and, with a coach who blames others when he fails to produce, it takes away some of the accountability.

 

EP's greatness comes with no satisfaction or complacency...even when he's great, he thinks he can be better.  He doesn't just expect it, he works hard for it.  He's pretty even keeled and rather than whine or blame when he's not finding the success that he'd like, he looks inward rather than outward.  Someone with that mentality is scary good because it's a matter of being a work in progress.  Who knows what the limit is with this kid.  It's pretty exciting. 

 

There's a confidence that is nicely balanced with being humble and thinking he could be better.  He doesn't just rely on the being the best, he's working on it constantly.  He doesn't whine about being mugged out there, he looks for ways to elude it.

One would have to think that the Oilers are a better team than we saw last night because they had 3 of their top 4 D injured.  Having said that, their forwards are thin and the scoring is pretty much between McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH and Chaison (who was hurt in the 1st).  It really drops off after that.  

 

The Oilers must be a very frustrating team to play for.  I don't know what the problem is but listening to Spector last night who was saying that they have had 8 coaches in 11 years etc and McLellan was quality too.  He really didn't look happy the last while before he was fired.  So when the coach is beaten down, there is some trickle down on the team too.  Stability is important.

 

Even so, they have some good players coming along like Suzuki, Pulujarvi, Bouchard, Yamamoto but Spector also alluded to their lack of veteran leadership.  Lucic sure isn't that guy.  I have thought for some time that the front office must have issues.  The team is a real head scratcher.  They have had such high draft picks but have never been able to develop players beyond the first round.  Even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.  It can't all be drafting.

 

Anyhow, this is turning into a longer post than I intended.  McDavid doesn't have the support that he needs from veterans.  Imagine for example if they had Beagle.  Benning has tried to retain veteran leaders throughout and has also drafted for character.  So the Sedin's have retired but a 23 year old Horvat is ready for the C.  I think the Oilers are missing out on some of the intangibles

[CanucksJay]

10 hours ago, EoH said:

The strange thing is as someone mentioned during the time of our losing streak we were always ‘in it’. It still shocks me that we’re in the middle of the pack and close to a wildcard playoff spot and just as easily we could be near the top of the standings.

 

Anyone feel like we got a chance to be like the LA kings when they finished for the last western conference playoff spot?? I mean out of all there games, they were always losing games by just a single goal, never a blow out... then we all know what happened come playoffs! 

 

Let’s hope we make it to the playoffs because as of right now, any team for the Canucks are beatable.

 

Fingers crossed that we make the post-season and be the dark-horse to sweep em all!

Yes I feel that this team is built to pull upsets. When healthy, It's solid down the line up and every line is ultra competitive and hard to play against.