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Harper hits at the big three

 

Money              

Bad kids/leftists/criminals

Bad China 

 

Underlying theme?   FEAR, because it sells.    

 

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7 hours ago, gurn said:

Trial balloon number two:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/stephen-harper-says-canada-s-pandemic-spending-has-been-overkill-in-podcast-appearance/ar-AAMDhBh?ocid=msedgntp

The Canadian government has spent irresponsibly in its attempt to fend off the economic disruption caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, according to former prime minister Stephen Harper.

"It's not a good reaction, it's been overkill," Harper said on an episode of the podcast American Optimist, which was released on Tuesday.

"This is bad macroeconomic policy on an enormous scale."

The podcast, which launched about a month ago, bills itself as "an alternative to the fear, cynicism and zero-sum thinking in mainstream media."

Harper appeared on the podcast with host Joe Lonsdale in Texas. The description of the podcast says the interview was recorded before the current COVID-19 resurgence in the United States but does not say exactly when.

Lonsdale is the founder of the venture capital firm 8VC, which Harper joined as an adviser in 2017.

Harper, who served as Conservative prime minister from 2006 to 2015, touched on a wide range of topics during the nearly 40-minute interview, including Canada's response to the pandemic, the rise of "woke" culture and the dangers of an emboldened China on the world stage.

Harper described Canada's spending strategies as short-sighted and said the massive levels of borrowing could spur dangerous levels of inflation.

In addition to questioning the Trudeau government's spending policies, Harper also suggested the country's vaccine rollout was slowed due to lacklustre execution and the government's poor relationships with drug companies.

"When we were in government, we never had any trouble or problem making sure we had vaccinations and vaccines well in advance of getting them distributed," Harper said. "So it's just a matter of competent execution."

Harper sounds alarm over growing 'woke' movement

Harper also took aim at what he called the "woke university crowd" for its attempts to tear down American and Western values.

"I'm just fascinated by this notion that is just everywhere now, the so-called woke notion that America is a fundamentally racist country," he said. "And yet what I see is all of these supposedly repressed races trying desperately to become Americans and to join the United States.

"It's not that there aren't problems, historical and present, that are real, but the core of our countries are great, they have great futures and there is no alternative."

Harper said the modern political left has become "entirely nihilist" and appears more interested in tearing down existing systems than in upholding and improving upon traditional democratic values.

Canada, allies, should push back against China: Harper

On the topic of China, Harper said the international community has been too hesitant to push back against the country, especially after its crackdown on pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong and its imposition of new national security laws.

China's actions in Hong Kong have "flagrantly violated" its promise to allow the region to operate under a separate political system until 2047, he said.

"I would have urged our allies to respond more forcefully to that," Harper said. He suggested that Canada and its allies could have moved to formally recognize the government of Taiwan in response to China's actions in Hong Kong.

Harper also said he is increasingly concerned that China will take military action against Taiwan in an attempt to squash its government and claim the island.

China attacking Taiwan was unimaginable, he said, but today "I no longer think that's the case."

 

 
 

Harper gave over $110 billion away in one shot to companies that didn't have to pay much of it back post 2008...the loan that was not a loan as it was.  He was the highest spending PM bar none without a serious war or emergency and he slashed essential spending everywhere to make up for it leaving future governments to be forced to increase spending to make up for it.

 

Look at ANY small town right now, the homelessness, vagrancy, lack of affordable housing and mental health/addiction support.  That didn't magically start in 2015, it took over a decade to exacerbate.  That's HIS to own.  

 

He speaks of traditional democratic values but held one of the most draconian governments in Canadian history, firing or shuttering entire branches of office in order to keep radio silence about things.  We're STILL finding out about his hyper social conservative idiocy.  Whining about woke culture is pathetic and one of the most blatant dog whistles there is for the ignorant.

 

Harper LITERALLY gave supply of our energy to China and food to Saudi Arabia.  What the hell is he talking about?  He was as tough as Poilivere is credible.

 

If he comes back he will solidify the religious social base, win the prairies outright but will almost essentially hand the Libs another majority, slim mind you but they'd still be in power

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7 hours ago, gurn said:

Harper hits at the big three

 

Money              

Bad kids/leftists/criminals

Bad China 

 

Underlying theme?   FEAR, because it sells.   

Yeah.....Harper's probably disappointed that we don't have our own Mexico, so he could complain about illegal immigrants....

 

Don't worry Stephen....if the Yanks keep going the way they're going, it will happen soon enough....

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The media  push is on, big business/money is speaking; I now give it a 25/75 chance Harper becomes the next leader of the conservative party.

All hail the returning hero!

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1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Harper gave over $110 billion away in one shot to companies that didn't have to pay much of it back post 2008...the loan that was not a loan as it was.  He was the highest spending PM bar none without a serious war or emergency and he slashed essential spending everywhere to make up for it leaving future governments to be forced to increase spending to make up for it.

 

Look at ANY small town right now, the homelessness, vagrancy, lack of affordable housing and mental health/addiction support.  That didn't magically start in 2015, it took over a decade to exacerbate.  That's HIS to own.  

 

He speaks of traditional democratic values but held one of the most draconian governments in Canadian history, firing or shuttering entire branches of office in order to keep radio silence about things.  We're STILL finding out about his hyper social conservative idiocy.  Whining about woke culture is pathetic and one of the most blatant dog whistles there is for the ignorant.

 

Harper LITERALLY gave supply of our energy to China and food to Saudi Arabia.  What the hell is he talking about?  He was as tough as Poilivere is credible.

 

If he comes back he will solidify the religious social base, win the prairies outright but will almost essentially hand the Libs another majority, slim mind you but they'd still be in power

My guess is that the religious right/social conservative base is often bamboozled by political leaders on the right speaking the "right keywords" that they forget to check what the actions were before for credibility, what the action are as they're happening for accountability, and then when they wake up from their hypnotized stupor they realized just how badly they've been duped that they dump the leader.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

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11 hours ago, gurn said:

Trial balloon number two:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/stephen-harper-says-canada-s-pandemic-spending-has-been-overkill-in-podcast-appearance/ar-AAMDhBh?ocid=msedgntp

The Canadian government has spent irresponsibly in its attempt to fend off the economic disruption caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, according to former prime minister Stephen Harper.

"It's not a good reaction, it's been overkill," Harper said on an episode of the podcast American Optimist, which was released on Tuesday.

"This is bad macroeconomic policy on an enormous scale."

The podcast, which launched about a month ago, bills itself as "an alternative to the fear, cynicism and zero-sum thinking in mainstream media."

Harper appeared on the podcast with host Joe Lonsdale in Texas. The description of the podcast says the interview was recorded before the current COVID-19 resurgence in the United States but does not say exactly when.

Lonsdale is the founder of the venture capital firm 8VC, which Harper joined as an adviser in 2017.

Harper, who served as Conservative prime minister from 2006 to 2015, touched on a wide range of topics during the nearly 40-minute interview, including Canada's response to the pandemic, the rise of "woke" culture and the dangers of an emboldened China on the world stage.

Harper described Canada's spending strategies as short-sighted and said the massive levels of borrowing could spur dangerous levels of inflation.

In addition to questioning the Trudeau government's spending policies, Harper also suggested the country's vaccine rollout was slowed due to lacklustre execution and the government's poor relationships with drug companies.

"When we were in government, we never had any trouble or problem making sure we had vaccinations and vaccines well in advance of getting them distributed," Harper said. "So it's just a matter of competent execution."

Harper sounds alarm over growing 'woke' movement

Harper also took aim at what he called the "woke university crowd" for its attempts to tear down American and Western values.

"I'm just fascinated by this notion that is just everywhere now, the so-called woke notion that America is a fundamentally racist country," he said. "And yet what I see is all of these supposedly repressed races trying desperately to become Americans and to join the United States.

"It's not that there aren't problems, historical and present, that are real, but the core of our countries are great, they have great futures and there is no alternative."

Harper said the modern political left has become "entirely nihilist" and appears more interested in tearing down existing systems than in upholding and improving upon traditional democratic values.

Canada, allies, should push back against China: Harper

On the topic of China, Harper said the international community has been too hesitant to push back against the country, especially after its crackdown on pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong and its imposition of new national security laws.

China's actions in Hong Kong have "flagrantly violated" its promise to allow the region to operate under a separate political system until 2047, he said.

"I would have urged our allies to respond more forcefully to that," Harper said. He suggested that Canada and its allies could have moved to formally recognize the government of Taiwan in response to China's actions in Hong Kong.

Harper also said he is increasingly concerned that China will take military action against Taiwan in an attempt to squash its government and claim the island.

China attacking Taiwan was unimaginable, he said, but today "I no longer think that's the case."

 

 
 

This coming from the bigoted piece of garbage who only wants "old stock Canadians" and wanted to institute a snitch line targeting minorities.  This evil piece of garbage is in no position to comment on racism.

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On 7/28/2021 at 8:19 AM, gurn said:

A little link from the Fraser Institiute about debt.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/federal-debt-in-canada-by-prime-ministers-2019.pdf

 

 

Seems about a year after getting into Office Harper started spending, and nobody has stopped since then.

 

Credit to Chretien and Martin, in charge when the debt was going down.

Martin was Finance Minister when the IMF told Canada to get their finances together. It was not political will on the Chretien government. Harper started spending in response to a global financial crisis. Trudeau is out buying votes now. Over $5 billion to NFLD to bail out another of their financial sinkholes. They have been playing this game in NFLD for decades. 

 

Harper was sent to Ottawa to get a fairer deal for the West and he failed. It was 15 years of lost effort IMHO. If Harper takes the CPC leadership back it will be the ultimate demonstration of how badly the party has cratered. I suspect the internal polls are telling them that they will lose seats in the West. That happens and the collapse speeds up. Many disaffected Westerners have stopped listening to the CPC. Look at the jobs the old Harper cabinet now hold. Pretty sweet payday plus they get their government pensions. Pensions that they campaigned against at one time. 

 

You don't have to be politically inclined to appreciate what demographics will mean to Canada. Trudeau's spending is simply going to accelerate the process. No serious public debate and since he controls the media message no worries. It will work until it doesn't.

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Canada extends pandemic wage and rent subsidies until Oct 23

Fri 30 Jul 2021 15:07:06 GMT

 

There will be an election before then

Freeland
Canadian finance minister Freeland says the government will extend wage and rent subsidies until October 23.
 
"These subsidies have been a lifeline" for thousands of businesses and workers, she said.
 
The Canada recovery benefits (CRB) are also extended until Oct 23 at current rates.
 
The Liberals are gearing up to call an election at any moment and they don't want these benefits to expire during the campaign.
 
In terms of markets, this should be a tailwind that extends until then, though it could add more wage inflation as it keeps workers out of the workforce.
 
 
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Textbook buying of an election.
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3 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

Canada extends pandemic wage and rent subsidies until Oct 23

Fri 30 Jul 2021 15:07:06 GMT

 

There will be an election before then

Freeland
Canadian finance minister Freeland says the government will extend wage and rent subsidies until October 23.
 
"These subsidies have been a lifeline" for thousands of businesses and workers, she said.
 
The Canada recovery benefits (CRB) are also extended until Oct 23 at current rates.
 
The Liberals are gearing up to call an election at any moment and they don't want these benefits to expire during the campaign.
 
In terms of markets, this should be a tailwind that extends until then, though it could add more wage inflation as it keeps workers out of the workforce.
 
 
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Textbook buying of an election.

Sad...

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3 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

 

 
Textbook buying of an election.

is it? we're still in the pandemic and might see a 4th wave shut things down again. Does it really make sense to end the program now?

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5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

is it? we're still in the pandemic and might see a 4th wave shut things down again. Does it really make sense to end the program now?

You see the correlation though. It's pretty obvious.

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1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

is it? we're still in the pandemic and might see a 4th wave shut things down again. Does it really make sense to end the program now?

Does it make sense to call an election considering those points? 

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1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

is it? we're still in the pandemic and might see a 4th wave shut things down again. Does it really make sense to end the program now?

If anything, blame the antivax morons, a large percentage of whom are CPC voters.

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2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

is it? we're still in the pandemic and might see a 4th wave shut things down again. Does it really make sense to end the program now?

I bet the Federal Government really doesn't believe we're heading for a 4th wave. Not with the levels of vaccination. So they make like it's bad, dole out the cash and then get re-elected when it's not nearly as bad as it could have been and they can take credit for that. Politics 101.

 

2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

You see the correlation though. It's pretty obvious.

Yup.

 

1 hour ago, Chicken. said:

Does it make sense to call an election considering those points? 

It does if they don't think it will be as bad as the talking heads predict. Considering Canada's stellar levels of vaccination (compared to other nations) it won't be.

 

So it isn't as bad as it could have been and they're doling out goodie$. That = re-election. Especially when the Conservatives are running and unelectable dork.

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7 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

I bet the Federal Government really doesn't believe we're heading for a 4th wave. Not with the levels of vaccination. So they make like it's bad, dole out the cash and then get re-elected when it's not nearly as bad as it could have been and they can take credit for that. Politics 101.

 

Yup.

 

It does if they don't think it will be as bad as the talking heads predict. Considering Canada's stellar levels of vaccination (compared to other nations) it won't be.

 

So it isn't as bad as it could have been and they're doling out goodie$. That = re-election. Especially when the Conservatives are running and unelectable dork.

An unelectable dork should be A Tool’s platform. 

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1 hour ago, King Heffy said:

If anything, blame the antivax morons, a large percentage of whom are CPC voters.

Hearing from people in the healthcare community that there are a number of people with the virus who are vaccinated. 

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4 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

You see the correlation though. It's pretty obvious.

 

3 hours ago, Chicken. said:

Does it make sense to call an election considering those points? 

Well, Horgan did right in the middle of one.

 

I'm not sure they will call one if a 4th wave shows up. I guess they could do it all by mail in. 

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8 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

Canada extends pandemic wage and rent subsidies until Oct 23

Fri 30 Jul 2021 15:07:06 GMT

 

There will be an election before then

Freeland
Canadian finance minister Freeland says the government will extend wage and rent subsidies until October 23.
 
"These subsidies have been a lifeline" for thousands of businesses and workers, she said.
 
The Canada recovery benefits (CRB) are also extended until Oct 23 at current rates.
 
The Liberals are gearing up to call an election at any moment and they don't want these benefits to expire during the campaign.
 
In terms of markets, this should be a tailwind that extends until then, though it could add more wage inflation as it keeps workers out of the workforce.
 
 
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Textbook buying of an election.

Buying maybe.

 

But, and I mean this sincerely.  Once that Trudeau money runs out.  The money that has essentially kept the lights on and food in the bellies of hundreds of thousands of Canadians who have been priced out of the housing markets, barely able to pay sky rocketing utility bills without mentioning increased telecom prices and food/fuel increases.

 

What happens once that money runs out?

 

In my opinion only....it's the ONLY reason this nation has not economically crumbled.  But also might be part of the reason it's gotten out or control.

 

The next massive economic meltdown isn't on the horizon, it's being sand bagged as I write this.

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