EdgarM Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 This is good reminder the position JB has been able to put this team in. We are in a position of strength with no hurry or pressure to do anything. However, there are teams like Edmonton who are under pressure to make moves they might not normally do. With cap space and the odd spare parts, I am sure JB is eventually going to find a deal which is going to help this team in the long run and provide short-term relief for others. A good position to be in for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Unbelievable they'd be willing to trade their first, with it looking like a lotto pick no matter what they do this season. But that's what I've maintained for a while -- they've bled so many assets, they have nothing to move. They need help at every position now. One thing to keep in mind -- Benning will NOT gut the current roster to get that first, unless able replacements are available (no, Gaudette is not ready to take over for Sutter). The team is on the upswing and has a legit chance to challenge for a playoff spot, so there's no way they compromise that. But what we could do is get Chia some cap relief in a minor deal, i.e. some more rope with which to hang himself. I suppose. But no player comes to mind from the Oilers on a short term, overpaid contract. Kassian, but he is only 1.5ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 The Oilers would be fine if McDavid asked for a trade. They actually might get a package back that created depth and balance. Teams that have lost super stars in the past sometimes became contenders themselves. As long as they didn't sell McDavid! I would like to see Edmonton Calgary and Vancouver thrive and destroy teams that had to come through for road trips.... AH 2 out of 3 ain't bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: Proposal: Jake Virtanen Nikolay Golobin Brandon Sutter For Jesse Puljujarvi Jujhar Khaira 2019 draft pick Oilers forwards Draisaitl McDavid Rattie Goldobin Nugent-Hopkins Chiasson Lucic Sutter Virtanen Spooner Brodziak Kassian Canucks forwards Baertchi Pettersson Boeser Leivo Horvat Puljujarvi Khaira Gaudette Eriksson Roussel Beagle Motte Granlund Thats the most reasonable deal I have seen here, I still think there no chance Edm deals with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City-in-state-of-emergency Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Huh? Ppl wanted Chia over Benning. Back in 2014 everyone seemed to hate the Benning hire. In 2015 when Oilers hired Chia CDC was lit with Edmonton positivity over Chia saying he was the better choice who belt the Bruins championship run but it was Bennings backdoor dealings and drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Listening Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, kenhodgejr said: Proposal: Jake Virtanen Nikolay Golobin Brandon Sutter For Jesse Puljujarvi Jujhar Khaira 2019 draft pick Oilers forwards Draisaitl McDavid Rattie Goldobin Nugent-Hopkins Chiasson Lucic Sutter Virtanen Spooner Brodziak Kassian Canucks forwards Baertchi Pettersson Boeser Leivo Horvat Puljujarvi Khaira Gaudette Eriksson Roussel Beagle Motte Granlund Why are people still on Puljujarvi? He has potential, sure. But Virtanen has not been a bad player this year. The stick has been cold the last few weeks, but it's not like he's been a liability. Trading Virty and Sutter, who are both defensively responsible players, for Pool Party, is going to lead to absolutely nothing for us. In fact, if this was a proposal, I'd rather us sit on our hands and do nothing. We 1000% lose this trade. Throwing Goldobin in there doesn't make sense either. WHY ARE YOU VALUING PULJUJARVI SO HIGH? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, rekker said: I suppose. But no player comes to mind from the Oilers on a short term, overpaid contract. Kassian, but he is only 1.5ish. That would be Spooner, who's essentially Gagner at another year for $3+mil. Rather a wash. Bossman Aq probably not keen to have another one of those around. 36 minutes ago, City-in-state-of-emergency said: Ppl wanted Chia over Benning. Back in 2014 everyone seemed to hate the Benning hire. In 2015 when Oilers hired Chia CDC was lit with Edmonton positivity over Chia saying he was the better choice who belt the Bruins championship run but it was Bennings backdoor dealings and drafting. Guess your recollection is much different than mine. I remember most people positive about getting Benning, and Chiarelli wasn't even available yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslundfan921 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 If you think Pouliot is a liability defensively, acquiring Ethan Bear would be more of the same. I'd avoid him. Any deal involving EDM would likely involve taking back bad money given their cap situation. I don't see anyone we'd necessarily be interested in that could be a long term piece for us (unless JB sees something in Pool Party) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 11 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: This cracks me up. A team that has McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Lucic, Kassian and Puljujarvi are looking for more offence. lol This sounds like a perfect time to trade Goldobin or Sutter That’s because, like much of this forum, they think you can get more offence without improving the talent level on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: So, you will give Edmonton a player in Boeser who will likely threaten 50-60 goals each year for the next decade if paired with McDavid for a player in LeonD who is at best a 20 goal scorer without the benefit of playing with a guy like McDavid. To some, that would seem like the lead story for an episode in a current show we see over here in Europe. Quit being a homer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 What is the point of forward depth when you play mcdavid 59:59 a night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Time for another game-day trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Vancouver wouldn’t make a significant trade with EDM, unless it was just too good to be true (and in that case EDM would be really foolish to play ball as it would bite them in the ass for the length these guys play each other that are traded). What’s the biggest trade we’ve ever made with them? Steve Staois? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 9 hours ago, City-in-state-of-emergency said: Ppl wanted Chia over Benning. Back in 2014 everyone seemed to hate the Benning hire. In 2015 when Oilers hired Chia CDC was lit with Edmonton positivity over Chia saying he was the better choice who belt the Bruins championship run but it was Bennings backdoor dealings and drafting. This board almost universally wanted Benning to replace Gillis. He was easily CDC’s number 1 candidate, It’s only years later when the rose coloured glasses are off that people try to revise history and say the opposite. The Bruins were coming off another recent Stanley Cup Final, and Chiarelli wasnt even available. The exact same thing happened with the Willie D hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 What a laughing stock that shower are. They have been swimming in high calibre forwards for years and then they "land" McDavid. It's still not enough for these incompetent f----rs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 We could offer Gagner who would probably do pretty well with the Oilers - as long as we got either a decent pick or a young forward like Marody or Bear. Then we have Daddy Bear and Bear jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Readership Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I'd be interested in their 2019 1st Rd pick and/or Bouchard. I don't know if the Oilers ruined Puljujarvi yet, but he has very good upside at 20 if you can get him for cheap you do it. Obviously some crap would have to come back from Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I would be all over Sutter for a 1st from Edmonton. That could be another lottery pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 10 hours ago, City-in-state-of-emergency said: Ppl wanted Chia over Benning. Back in 2014 everyone seemed to hate the Benning hire. In 2015 when Oilers hired Chia CDC was lit with Edmonton positivity over Chia saying he was the better choice who belt the Bruins championship run but it was Bennings backdoor dealings and drafting. I for one never did. I always thought Chia was an overrated tool. I'm usually wrong but I was right on this one. I put Dubas, Babcock, and that kid pulling the strings in Arizona on my overrated list as well. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, rekker said: I for one never did. I always thought Chia was an overrated tool. I'm usually wrong but I was right on this one. I put Dubas, Babcock, and that kid pulling the strings in Arizona on my overrated list as well. Time will tell. Babcock for one, has always had strong rosters to work with, Anaheim, Detroit, Olympic teams, and now with Toronto on the cusp. They aren't a strong team by any stretch of the imagination, defense and goaltending are their krypton. He's been gifted some pretty good draft picks, actually pretty lucky draft lottery picks, so lets just see if he can get this team to a cup, before I call him a great coach. In their prime, I'd take Datsuyk and Zetterberg over Matthews and Marner. Toronto doesn't have anyone near a Lidstrom on that defense. I'm with you on this rekker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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