EddieVedder Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 How do we know Hughes is going to even be a 20 minute dman? Pouliot was one the one most highly touted defensive prospects in his class, even moreso than Hughes, and he has not come near his potential. What we in Vancouver are overlooking is the fact that Hughes has absolutely zero physical game and is a player of smaller stature. When he has bigger guys bearing down on him hes going to have even less of a chance than someone like Stetcher in stopping them. I'm not saying he isnt going to be a solid offensive player, but he has not shown, at any level, that he can handle his own against bigger guys. So lets calm down and not hype this guy up so much please because he will never be an Karlsson, Doughty, Burns, Chabot type cornerstone dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: How do we know Hughes is going to even be a 20 minute dman? Pouliot was one the one most highly touted defensive prospects in his class, even moreso than Hughes, and he has not come near his potential. What we in Vancouver are overlooking is the fact that Hughes has absolutely zero physical game and is a player of smaller stature. When he has bigger guys bearing down on him hes going to have even less of a chance than someone like Stetcher in stopping them. I'm not saying he isnt going to be a solid offensive player, but he has not shown, at any level, that he can handle his own against bigger guys. So lets calm down and not hype this guy up so much please because he will never be an Karlsson, Doughty, Burns, Chabot type cornerstone dman. Agreed. Pouliot is already a better dman than the super slow footed Gudbranson is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brovat Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 17 hours ago, EddieVedder said: How do we know Hughes is going to even be a 20 minute dman? Pouliot was one the one most highly touted defensive prospects in his class, even moreso than Hughes, and he has not come near his potential. What we in Vancouver are overlooking is the fact that Hughes has absolutely zero physical game and is a player of smaller stature. When he has bigger guys bearing down on him hes going to have even less of a chance than someone like Stetcher in stopping them. I'm not saying he isnt going to be a solid offensive player, but he has not shown, at any level, that he can handle his own against bigger guys. So lets calm down and not hype this guy up so much please because he will never be an Karlsson, Doughty, Burns, Chabot type cornerstone dman. It’s Quinn’s skating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 When he goes out there and commits to just going out there and playing his game offensively, he could stay in the league but I feel he doesn't play risky enough and the second guessing game hurts his overall play. He can be a decent depth guy, but he's far more suited for an Eastern conference team. When he gets out of his head and just pushes the play forward and up the ice he has the tools. Defensively, still needs work but a lot of that is just keeping your head on a swivel anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 17 hours ago, EddieVedder said: How do we know Hughes is going to even be a 20 minute dman? Pouliot was one the one most highly touted defensive prospects in his class, even moreso than Hughes, and he has not come near his potential. What we in Vancouver are overlooking is the fact that Hughes has absolutely zero physical game and is a player of smaller stature. When he has bigger guys bearing down on him hes going to have even less of a chance than someone like Stetcher in stopping them. I'm not saying he isnt going to be a solid offensive player, but he has not shown, at any level, that he can handle his own against bigger guys. So lets calm down and not hype this guy up so much please because he will never be an Karlsson, Doughty, Burns, Chabot type cornerstone dman. He has the potential to be a Karlsson. His skating is on par, if not better than Karlsson's, I believe his hockey IQ is better than Karlsson (he tends to really force plays when his game isn't going well), both are great in the offensive zone, Karlsson is better defensively obviously, but Hughes will need to work on that through experience. His ceiling is a lot higher than you give him credit for because his skating is elite and his hands are elite. He won't be physical like Doughty or Burns or Subban, but he will have the ability the skate end to end and draw offense towards him and he also has that great IQ of getting shots through because he doesn't rely on a bomb from the point to score. He does snap shots and wristers through screens and he's amazingly adept at knowing when to pass when the lane is blocked. He will without a doubt be a very important d-man for it. I'm as sure on him as I was with Elias. He may struggle at the beginning adjusting to the good sticks in the league and he may be prone to giveaways, but he will have over 40 points in his first season if given regular ice time (+14 mins per game and pp time) on a full length season. There's certain kids you can see the IQ resonate with and he will be one of those extraordinary guys that fits that role. Defensively, I'm not confident he's there. I think he will be a project but offensively the kid is gifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 22 hours ago, EddieVedder said: How do we know Hughes is going to even be a 20 minute dman? Pouliot was one the one most highly touted defensive prospects in his class, even moreso than Hughes, and he has not come near his potential. What we in Vancouver are overlooking is the fact that Hughes has absolutely zero physical game and is a player of smaller stature. When he has bigger guys bearing down on him hes going to have even less of a chance than someone like Stetcher in stopping them. I'm not saying he isnt going to be a solid offensive player, but he has not shown, at any level, that he can handle his own against bigger guys. So lets calm down and not hype this guy up so much please because he will never be an Karlsson, Doughty, Burns, Chabot type cornerstone dman. Pouliot was injured repeatedly at inopportune times in Pittsburgh - Pouliot was looking to earn a role on a team that had a high end pmd/Letang - Pouliot's game needed to be contender-ready/was trying to crack into a contender's lineup that was in win-now mode....... Regarding what Hughes will be - it's just as irrational to make the kind of negative projection you have as it is to assume he'll be a Norris candidate - calming down goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 yeah, Pouliot had a rough night, but the whole team got beat down tonight. Canucks should take this time out to really figure out how they'll come together as a team when they get back from break. Should Hughes wear #24 when he comes to play for the Vancouver Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EagleShield Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On the same pairing as Badbranson. Ideally on another team, but probably in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Sit around and watch and earn 1.1 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DarthMelvin Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 6:55 PM, EddieVedder said: How do we know Hughes is going to even be a 20 minute dman? Pouliot was one the one most highly touted defensive prospects in his class, even moreso than Hughes, and he has not come near his potential. What we in Vancouver are overlooking is the fact that Hughes has absolutely zero physical game and is a player of smaller stature. When he has bigger guys bearing down on him hes going to have even less of a chance than someone like Stetcher in stopping them. I'm not saying he isnt going to be a solid offensive player, but he has not shown, at any level, that he can handle his own against bigger guys. So lets calm down and not hype this guy up so much please because he will never be an Karlsson, Doughty, Burns, Chabot type cornerstone dman. I would rather look in to the unknown with Hughes than deal with another bad game by Poo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 If it comes down to Biega or Pouliot, then I want Biega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I wouldn't sweat it too much, the guy is a temp at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Not our problem what his future is....wont be here next season thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, captainhorvat said: Not our problem what his future is....wont be here next season thats for sure. Pouliot is at the point now where he is soon to be passed by the younger guys. Hughes will play ahead of him, and so will Juiolevi (once healthy). If Tryamkin comes back, that's a third guy ahead of Pouliot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Pouliot is at the point now where he is soon to be passed by the younger guys. Hughes will play ahead of him, and so will Juiolevi (once healthy). If Tryamkin comes back, that's a third guy ahead of Pouliot. yeah had OJ been healthy it would be his spot right now (assuming he was able to stay up) ahh well, I still think it was worth the cost and risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: yeah had OJ been healthy it would be his spot right now (assuming he was able to stay up) ahh well, I still think it was worth the cost and risk. Definitely worth the cost/risk. Pouliot has an NHL body, size, and skills. He just lacks the smarts, and the willingness to sacrifice off ice to be at his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: Definitely worth the cost/risk. Pouliot has an NHL body, size, and skills. He just lacks the smarts, and the willingness to sacrifice off ice to be at his best. do we know that last part? I hadn't heard anything about bad habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: do we know that last part? I hadn't heard anything about bad habits. I remember Green making a comment about the off ice commitment needing to improve for both Hutton and Pouliot last season. I don't know if it's bad habits, but the implication was about conditioning. Green wants his guys in the best shape possible. Hutton took on the challenge, and is in the best shape of his life. Maybe Pouliot lacks the same commitment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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