Warhippy Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Violator said: Russians sent in "private security" in order to protect maduro presidency. Wonder is this is were the next cold war will start. I was going to say it looks and resembles Cuba for countries taking sides and yes, it kind of looks that way, except this time the US doesn't have a strong leader or quality leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 So there were protesters in downtown today. Apparently they were offended by the "coup" and interference by Canada, US, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 8 hours ago, taxi said: Venezuela has had big problems for a while. This was bound to happen. Chavez concentrated the country's wealth in the hands of his relatives and cronies. The rest of the population was kept in a socialist nightmare spiral to the bottom. It's basically a recipe for disaster, where the best case scenario is a Russian style czar execution. I visited Venezuela 15 years ago. It was on the verge of becoming a Latin American model for success. All it took was one corrupt man to destroy everything. meh the oil sanctions didn't help either... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 hours ago, drummer4now said: meh the oil sanctions didn't help either... What sanctions? The USA is only proposing sanctions now. The problems in Venezuela have been going on since Chavez took over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Warhippy said: Dictatorial grab at power. Socialist ideologies present a transfer of control to the state for the betterment of all. Dictatorial ideologies present a transfer of power to a person regardless of the people. It WAS going to because model of success then one man screwed it up I disagree. Socialism has never worked in reality. Expecting everyone to work as hard as they can for average pay is a pipe dream. That doesn't even work in most government offices in Canada, where people get well above average pay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, taxi said: I disagree. Socialism has never worked in reality. Expecting everyone to work as hard as they can for average pay is a pipe dream. That doesn't even work in most government offices in Canada, where people get well above average pay. Every social democracy on the planet is essentially leading the globe in major indicators. Socialism in its pure literal sense cannot work because it's always just a veil for a dictatorial power grab. People cannot accept that there's form of socialism that not only work but thrive. Venezuela became a dictatorial nation under Chavez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Warhippy said: Every social democracy on the planet is essentially leading the globe in major indicators. Socialism in its pure literal sense cannot work because it's always just a veil for a dictatorial power grab. People cannot accept that there's form of socialism that not only work but thrive. Venezuela became a dictatorial nation under Chavez. Every "social democracy" is very much also a capitalist state too. Higher standards for education and health care lead to better grounds for competition and more overall success. That's not true socialism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMohammadman Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I don't like the US interfering whatsoever, but I also despise the government for being perhaps some of the biggest ظaalimeen (oppressors) on this planet. Stuff like Maduro eating extravagate and playing baseball while his people were starving, just sick. But the last thing the country needs is a US-backed puppet with all that oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) You guys think USA is the main "trigger" of Maduro's opposition? Nope far from it in fact this time is BRAZIL The new government HATES Maduro and the entire south America follow the same idea, Venezuelans living in Brazil want the Maduro not only deposed they want see him dead... Edited January 28, 2019 by aeromotacanucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/venezuela-s-opposition-leader-juan-guaido-calls-military-uprising-n999966?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma Clashes in Venezuela as Guaidó calls for uprising; Maduro decries 'coup attempt' "Today, the armed forces are clearly on the side of the people, they are on the side of the constitution," Venezuela's opposition leader said. https://www.cnn.com/americas/live-news/juan-guaido-venezuela-operation-freedom-live-updates/index.html Venezuela's uprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/03/spain-refuses-hand-venezuela-opposition-leader-taking-refuge/ Spain refuses to hand over Venezuela opposition leader taking refuge in embassy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Free the Oil... I mean ppl of Venezuela! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I really sympathize with Venezuela but I think we all know how bad the US has been to South/Central America. It helps to see it as a list sometimes because there's a lot. Some of the most notable U.S. interventions in Latin America: 1846: The United States invades Mexico and captures Mexico City in 1847. A peace treaty the following year gives the U.S. more than half of Mexico’s territory — what is now most of the western United States. 1903: The U.S. engineers Panamanian independence from Colombia and gains sovereign rights over the zone where the Panama Canal would connect Atlantic and Pacific shipping routes. 1903: Cuba and the U.S. sign a treaty allowing near-total U.S. control of Cuban affairs. U.S. establishes a naval base at Guantanamo Bay. U.S. Marines repeatedly intervene in Central America and the Caribbean throughout the first quarter of the 20th century, often to protect U.S. business interests in moments of political instability. 1914: U.S. troops occupy the Mexican port of Veracruz for seven months in an attempt to sway developments in the Mexican Revolution. 1954: Guatemalan President Jacobo Arbenz is overthrown in a CIA-backed coup. 1961: The U.S.-backed Bay of Pigs invasion fails to overthrow Soviet-backed Cuban leader Fidel Castro but Washington continues to launch attempts to assassinate Castro and dislodge his government. 1964: Leftist President Joao Goulart of Brazil is overthrown in a U.S.-backed coup that installs a military government lasting until the 1980s. 1965: U.S. forces land in the Dominican Republic to intervene in a civil war. 1970s: Argentina, Chile and allied South American nations launch brutal campaign of repression and assassination aimed at perceived leftist threats, known as Operation Condor, often with U.S. support. 1980s: Reagan administration backs anti-Communist Contra forces against Nicaragua’s Sandinista government and backs the Salvadoran government against leftist FMLN rebels. 1983: U.S. forces invade Caribbean island of Grenada after accusing the government of allying itself with Communist Cuba. 1989: U.S. invades Panama to oust strongman Manuel Noriega. 1994: A U.S.-led invasion of Haiti is launched to remove the military regime installed by a 1991 coup that ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. The invasion restores Aristide. 2002: Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is ousted for two days before retaking power. He and his allies accuse the U.S. of tacit support for the coup attempt. 2009: Honduran President Manuel Zelaya overthrown by military. U.S. accused of worsening situation by insufficient condemnation of the coup. https://www.apnews.com/2ded14659982426c9b2552827734be83 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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