King Heffy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, You Mad Bro? said: I’m as big of a homer as you’ll find. Bleed blue and green. And I’m a big JB fan. But I’m just not sure that’s true. When you pick the first defencemen in the draft at fifth overall I think it’s safe to say you’re wanting a top pairing if not true number one D man. We’ve gone from that to “We still think he can be a top 4 D man”. Obviously I hope I’m incredibly wrong and OJ makes me look like a fool. But at the moment with what MT is doing in Calgary. It looks like that was the wrong pick. Maybe Benning's trying to keep some pressure off of OJ given how brutal our media can be. Manage expectations so if he hits his ceiling it's a pleasant surprise rather than let Botchford and co. crucify the kid when he makes the team and experiences some growing pains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4quality Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, You Mad Bro? said: I’m as big of a homer as you’ll find. Bleed blue and green. And I’m a big JB fan. But I’m just not sure that’s true. When you pick the first defencemen in the draft at fifth overall I think it’s safe to say you’re wanting a top pairing if not true number one D man. We’ve gone from that to “We still think he can be a top 4 D man”. Obviously I hope I’m incredibly wrong and OJ makes me look like a fool. But at the moment with what MT is doing in Calgary. It looks like that was the wrong pick. With MT there's no EP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Rentals no. Hockey trades yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Mad Bro? Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, DS4quality said: With MT there's no EP. 10 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Maybe Benning's trying to keep some pressure off of OJ given how brutal our media can be. Manage expectations so if he hits his ceiling it's a pleasant surprise rather than let Botchford and co. crucify the kid when he makes the team and experiences some growing pains. Good points fellas. Like I said. Hope I’m wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckFather Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I think that the Canucks fans are now appreciating their GM more after witnessing the gong show in Edmonton. I think our management has a solid plan place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, You Mad Bro? said: I’m as big of a homer as you’ll find. Bleed blue and green. And I’m a big JB fan. But I’m just not sure that’s true. When you pick the first defencemen in the draft at fifth overall I think it’s safe to say you’re wanting a top pairing if not true number one D man. We’ve gone from that to “We still think he can be a top 4 D man”. Obviously I hope I’m incredibly wrong and OJ makes me look like a fool. But at the moment with what MT is doing in Calgary. It looks like that was the wrong pick. Or we could have ended up with Puljujarvi dropping and then we would have been really disappointed with his progress. His totals are similar to JV at this point. And coming from a guy who ripped up the world juniors a few years ago. Like you i am really hoping we got a stud coming in OJ and not a dud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samgagner'sface Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Realistically being prepared to stand pat means JB likely comes out on top this TDL regardless of what happens. The team has been better than expected. If any deal gets made it'll likely be to our benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Somebody was hating on me last year saying that Chatfield isn't even gonna get games in the next 2 seasons. Looks like I'm on the verge of being righttttt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Always lots of talk about "Selling the Future", well why not "Buying the Future"? If it is only through the draft then buying more picks by using existing assets and improving draft positions. These are positive ideas. All I get out of these comments is "I am not going to do anything or take any chances". Although he should have many assets available for extra picks at the TDL, if not this season then the next draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Funny how Benning spent years mortgaging our future to chase a ridiculous fantasy (playoffs) - but, now, all of a sudden, he cares about the team's future??? I imagine Aquilini finally stopped pushing for the playoffs about a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: Funny how Benning spent years mortgaging our future to chase a ridiculous fantasy (playoffs) - but, now, all of a sudden, he cares about the team's future??? I imagine Aquilini finally stopped pushing for the playoffs about a year ago. It was Linden, he put the players ahead of the team, he was still too much the NHLPA president. That is why the Sedins were never asked about a TDL trade or any at all. "It would not be fair to them to tear it down", "should do what we can to give them a last shot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 17 hours ago, -AJ- said: My thoughts on what he said: - I agree with the notion that the best thing for this team now is to feel success and get playoff experience, not lose more for a high pick. - I'm thrilled to hear that Benning won't be mortgaging the future for a shot at the playoffs. This man gets it. - Glad to see he's going to talk with Edler soon. I'm hoping for a new short- to mid-term contract (2-4 years) - Interesting that he's most high on Sautner and Chatfield. I'm personally much higher on McEneny. - Juolevi's development will definitely be stalled with this injury. He may need another year in Utica before making the NHL, which would be a disappointment. - Kole Lind has done well in Utica lately, but was developing very slowly prior to recent games. I'm much lower on him than I used to be. Interesting to see that Jim is still hyped about him. I've heard Alex Auld and Trent Cull both say a lot of young players need a few month adjustment period (October to December) and pick up their offensive game come January or February when they first get to the AHL. They said this is especially true for those with late draft year birthdays (those who can play in the AHL in their D+2). So I'm glad to see Lind it tracking along there exactly as they expected. Gadjovich, however, I'm not so sure about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Westcoasting said: Or we could have ended up with Puljujarvi dropping and then we would have been really disappointed with his progress. His totals are similar to JV at this point. And coming from a guy who ripped up the world juniors a few years ago. Like you i am really hoping we got a stud coming in OJ and not a dud! Agreed, if OJ turns into a calm, minute eating #3 D-man, I think that is a huge win. MT is MT but at the end of the day would prefer to pay EP and Boeser big money and support him with solid players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: Benning spent years mortgaging our future Yeah, it sucks we don't have guys like Horvat, Petterson , Boeser, Virtanen, Hughes, Demko, Woo, Madden, DiPietro, Juolevi . Why did he have to throw all of that away in a futile attempt to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ey40 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 In Benning I trust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 hours ago, oldnews said: No surprises there. Cole's notes: Not buyers. Stay the course. If anything the surprise is that he has the gut and balls to stay the course and not get dragged into the EP and Boeser Hype. So damned happy with Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 18 hours ago, DS4quality said: With MT there's no EP. So keep it on the QT ASAP, OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks-benning-trade-deadline-strategy Quote As for other deals that could be made, Benning hinted that a swap of young players could be in the cards. “If there’s a hockey deal to do for one of our younger players, I’m not going to say our prospects, but a player we have on our team for a different look, a player on another team that we think is going to help us, we’ll look at something like that.” He may be alluding to Nikolay Goldobin. The 23-year-old doesn’t qualify as a “prospect” anymore, and the head coach doesn’t seem fond of the way he plays. If there’s a player of a similar age available for Goldobin, particularly one with a more well-rounded game, based on those comments, Benning may be considering pulling the trigger. Couldn't find a tweet from the interview on Sportsnet but I found it here instead. Could be a mix of Goldobin, Hutton, Stecher, Virtanen, Leivo, Motte, Gaunce, Pouliot that he is alluding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks-benning-trade-deadline-strategy Couldn't find a tweet from the interview on Sportsnet but I found it here instead. Could be a mix of Goldobin, Hutton, Stecher, Virtanen, Leivo, Motte, Gaunce, Pouliot that he is alluding to. Firstly, I wouldn’t include Jake on this list. Jake, when playing well, impacts a game way more than these others can. What would we expect back though, another Granlund-like player? I like Granlund’s usefulness, but (IMO) we already have enough of his level of player. Maybe Hutton for an upgrade at forward, but (really) what will he return? I think this level of trade makes little to no improvement to our future Cup chances, unless we get back draft picks. Yes, picks in the later rounds (which is the best these guys will return - excluding Virtanen) have little chance of becoming impact players, but what are the chances any guy we get in return will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 hours ago, SILLY GOOSE said: darn! I was so looking forward to JB mortgaging the future for rentals at the TDL. In other words.. you thought he was going to morph into Peter Chiarelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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