canuck73_3 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 17 hours ago, City-in-state-of-emergency said: Hitler promised not to invade Czechoslovakia. People do the opposite of what they say. What a stupid post wadr 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 12:31 PM, oldnews said: ? Ships sail in all directions. The Tryamkin ship....IYO....sailing back, p&ty. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 20 hours ago, The Lock said: This is about as true of a statement as Trump saying the Mexicans will pay for a wall. Until Tryamkin's not in the system at all, your statement's false as the evidence is obvious: he's in the system still. I'm not saying. For the record, I'm also not saying Tryamkin will return either. I'm just saying making bold statements like the one you made are kind of silly as they are obviously not true. Your opinion is not a fact. Your opinion is your opinion. Sounds like Fake News .....joking. to be honest, this guy has frustrated me to no end, first he insists that he will only sign if he plays in the NHL, then he shows up out of shape, refuses to be sent down for conditioning, then he sits and doesn't play....and complains about it, then he doesn't get enough minutes....and complains about it, when he does play, his effort levels are questionable.......then he bolts to Russia for at least three years......and trashes the city to the Russian media on his way out.... As far as I am concerned, players either want to be here and be a team player or they don't . Tryamkin doesn't so until I see him in a Canucks jersey with a smile on his face...he is as good as gone to me....personally I hope they trade his rights a be done with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 57 minutes ago, GarthButcher5 said: Sounds like Fake News .....joking. to be honest, this guy has frustrated me to no end, first he insists that he will only sign if he plays in the NHL, then he shows up out of shape, refuses to be sent down for conditioning, then he sits and doesn't play....and complains about it, then he doesn't get enough minutes....and complains about it, when he does play, his effort levels are questionable.......then he bolts to Russia for at least three years......and trashes the city to the Russian media on his way out.... As far as I am concerned, players either want to be here and be a team player or they don't . Tryamkin doesn't so until I see him in a Canucks jersey with a smile on his face...he is as good as gone to me....personally I hope they trade his rights a be done with him. I'd kind of like to know your sources on this stuff with Tryamkin to be honest. I haven't really heard of most of this happening, especially with the "out of shape" part. I'm not saying it didn't happen like that, but at the same time I kind of question whether it's true when there's clearly a bias coming from you in all of this. People make things up a lot on this forum unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Lock said: I'd kind of like to know your sources on this stuff with Tryamkin to be honest. I haven't really heard of most of this happening, especially with the "out of shape" part. I'm not saying it didn't happen like that, but at the same time I kind of question whether it's true when there's clearly a bias coming from you in all of this. People make things up a lot on this forum unfortunately. It is true that they had to work with him in his conditioning. But it's not like he showed up 30 lbs heavier like Krutov, the issue was his cardio. He was in KHL shape... big difference with NHL standards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, coryberg said: It is true that they had to work with him in his conditioning. But it's not like he showed up 30 lbs heavier like Krutov, the issue was his cardio. He was in KHL shape... big difference with NHL standards. See, that's what I mean. Garth's making it to be a big deal when clearly it's his bias. I really hate it when people make stuff up and over-exaggerate. Makes me really look at that person as someone who really doesn't know what they are talking about. Anyone can make up stories and if I want that I'll go to a forum about fiction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On January 25, 2019 at 11:31 AM, Vanuckles said: To Ott: Col 2019 1st Zadorov Conditional 3rd: if Stone re-signs with Col. To Col: Mark Stone Colorado will not trade there 1st round pick?????? Colorado have Ottawa's 1st round pick this year and it should be a top 5 pick.. Still cannot believe Ottawa made that trade last year.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, wildcam said: Colorado will not trade there 1st round pick?????? Colorado have Ottawa's 1st round pick this year and it should be a top 5 pick.. Still cannot believe Ottawa made that trade last year.. Colorado 1st is presently in the 12-15 range - that proposal didn't suggest trading Ott 2019. Maybe they wouldn't, maybe they would deal their own 1st.... But if Colorado did want to make haste, Stone is probably a pretty good fit for them. They have Rantanen - and then Compher, Calvert and Bourque at RW.....they could stand to add a RW like Stone to their top 6. I think that's an interesting proposal that could be of interest to both teams.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 hours ago, GarthButcher5 said: to be honest, this guy has frustrated me to no end, first he insists that he will only sign if he plays in the NHL, then he shows up out of shape, refuses to be sent down for conditioning, then he sits and doesn't play....and complains about it, then he doesn't get enough minutes....and complains about it, when he does play, his effort levels are questionable.......then he bolts to Russia for at least three years......and trashes the city to the Russian media on his way out.... There's a grain of truth to all that imo - he was out of shape, he wasn't happy not playing, and he did make some comments in departing that weren't flattering. At the same time, he was 22 years old. Everything was filtered through an interpreter, and he's a proud young guy that wants to play - but needed a bit of a reality check. It is his prerogative if he'd prefer the KHL over the AHL - that part is understandable imo. And while I think it has to be expected that every player come in in shape and maintain professional fitness levels, by all accounts he busted his ass when he was given that unofficial 'conditioning stint' when he first arrived here. There were times through the season where it was clear he was sucking wind in long shifts - I understand why WD limited his ice time - so I think he was treated fairly. But I'm not going to hold that against him. He'll mature, he's interested in returning - he's just far too rare a player to not give another chance. He has incredible reach and mobility, a heavy shot - all he really needs to do is improve on his endurance, which for a guy his size takes time imo - it's natural for it to be harder to gain the kind of conditioning that comes easier to smaller guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, wildcam said: Colorado will not trade there 1st round pick?????? Colorado have Ottawa's 1st round pick this year and it should be a top 5 pick.. Still cannot believe Ottawa made that trade last year.. What @oldnews said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, wildcam said: Colorado will not trade there 1st round pick?????? Colorado have Ottawa's 1st round pick this year and it should be a top 5 pick.. Still cannot believe Ottawa made that trade last year.. Ottawa was stupid. Duchene was not, and is not worth what they gave up for him. Dorian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, The Lock said: See, that's what I mean. Garth's making it to be a big deal when clearly it's his bias. I really hate it when people make stuff up and over-exaggerate. Makes me really look at that person as someone who really doesn't know what they are talking about. Anyone can make up stories and if I want that I'll go to a forum about fiction. not at all made up On 3/6/2016 at 9:45 AM, Stierlitz said: More comments... Interview with Tryamkin dated March 6: http://www.championat.com/hockey/news-2399610-trjamkin-kontrakt-s-vankuverom-poka-ne-zakljuchen.html "I am thankful to Avtomobilist to release me. Contract with Canucks is not signed yet. If this happens, then I need to show everything I can this season." Interview with Nikita's agent Vladimir Zorkin: http://www.championat.com/hockey/news-2399580-agent-trjamkin-smozhet-vernutsja-v-rossiiju-v-sluchae-otpravki-v-akhl.html "First, I would like to thank Avtomobilist that it has released Nikita before his contract expires. Tryamkin will sign standard entry-level two-way contract with Vancouver in near future. It will include point that the player might return to Russia if he is sent to the farm club in AHL. As I understand, Canucks has little chance to play in playoffs, that is why the club is interested to evaluate Tryamkin and let him play in the NHL right now. That was the topic of discussions with Canucks. Regular season in the NHL will finish in the middle of April so Nikita will have chance to showcase himself." also some summarries here https://canucksarmy.com/2018/10/02/the-likelihood-of-nikita-tryamkin-returning-to-the-vancouver-canucks-according-to-nikita-tryamkin/ Edited January 27, 2019 by GarthButcher5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, GarthButcher5 said: not at all made up also some summarries here https://canucksarmy.com/2018/10/02/the-likelihood-of-nikita-tryamkin-returning-to-the-vancouver-canucks-according-to-nikita-tryamkin/ The AHL stuff I understand but this doesn't even satisfy most of what you've said. It literally just backs up one thing. It's also clearly your rendition of what you are reading or Canucksarmy's rendition (I would rather read an Eklund post than a Canucksarmy post btw. They are that irrelevant in my opinion. It's like an extension of a CDC poster: people who think they know more than they do). Hiowever, I also want to point out that, despite my hate for Canucksarmy, they do have "Fors", so it's not like that article's even all negative. What in that article's supposed to even back you up? If you are going to debate, it's generally a good idea to point things out rather than go "here you read the article". The onus is on you to solidify your stance, not your opponent. That's what debating's all about. You want to prove something then prove it. Laziness doesn't cut it. Thanks at least for coming up with a couple of articles I guess though. Edited January 27, 2019 by The Lock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Lock said: The AHL stuff I understand but this doesn't even satisfy most of what you've said. It literally just backs up one thing. It's also clearly your rendition of what you are reading or Canucksarmy's rendition (I would rather read an Eklund post than a Canucksarmy post btw. They are that irrelevant in my opinion. It's like an extension of a CDC poster: people who think they know more than they do). Hiowever, I also want to point out that, despite my hate for Canucksarmy, they do have "Fors", so it's not like that article's even all negative. What in that article's supposed to even back you up? If you are going to debate, it's generally a good idea to point things out rather than go "here you read the article". The onus is on you to solidify your stance, not your opponent. That's what debating's all about. You want to prove something then prove it. Laziness doesn't cut it. Thanks at least for coming up with a couple of articles I guess though. the other option is to read through the Tryamkin page and tou will see more Edited January 27, 2019 by GarthButcher5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 16 hours ago, oldnews said: Colorado 1st is presently in the 12-15 range - that proposal didn't suggest trading Ott 2019. Maybe they wouldn't, maybe they would deal their own 1st.... But if Colorado did want to make haste, Stone is probably a pretty good fit for them. They have Rantanen - and then Compher, Calvert and Bourque at RW.....they could stand to add a RW like Stone to their top 6. I think that's an interesting proposal that could be of interest to both teams.... I was a big proponent of Ottawa trading EK to Colorado for their 1st back this year. which in hindsight is still laughably insulting for Ottawa but would have been a solid deal. TRading Stone to them for their 1st back might actually not be the worst idea either. Should Colorado be in danger of dropping out of the playoff picture the Col 1st and an addition or two would still be a good return for Ottawa. But losing their first this year...man what a stab to the hearts of Sens fans knowing that Sakic is looking at a 20% chance of walking out of Van with Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, GarthButcher5 said: the other option is to read through the Tryamkin page and tou will see more I did read and I didn't see more. Point it out to me please. Treat me like I'm an idiot. Don't be lazy. This is what debating is all about: backing your stuff up. Telling me to do your research for you on your own points does not work and does not win you debates. Edited January 27, 2019 by The Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, The Lock said: I did read and I didn't see more. Point it out to me please. Treat me like I'm an idiot. Don't be lazy. This is what debating is all about: backing your stuff up. Telling me to do your research for you on your own points does not work and does not win you debates. This is way off topic and you are obviously trolling me.....all I will say now is try and have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GarthButcher5 said: This is way off topic and you are obviously trolling me.....all I will say now is try and have a good day I'm not trolling. I'm trying to get you to back your stuff up. Seriously, how hard is it? Apparently too hard to take 5 minutes to run through the article and point things out. Oh noes! Work! This is exactly what I mean by people on this board making claims and then not willing to put in the time and effort to back up their claims. Basically, you must be just running your mouth then. I would have gladly have a debate about it but clearly you are not about facts but just want to complain about Tryamkin. Oh well. Makes we wonder why I even bother to discuss with people at times. Sigh.... Edited January 28, 2019 by The Lock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I remember getting my hopes up when this thread popped up. Now it looks like the Avs are poised to be cup contenders every year with Zadorov one of their better d-men in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I remember getting my hopes up when this thread popped up. Now it looks like the Avs are poised to be cup contenders every year with Zadorov one of their better d-men in the playoffs. We almost signed Gretzky bro. Do you know how long that Shane Doan thread was? Who the #@$% is Zadorov? Edited May 4, 2019 by VIC_CITY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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