TheGuardian_ Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 The Canucks are still rebuilding, the absence of more than one rookie is devastating and if our rookie gets hurt it is a disaster. Colorado is a playoff team with some depth but needing more, at both forward and defence. They have two first round picks one of which is Ottawa's. If they dangled that pick out there at the TDL which top players would be reasonable and good return? There are always the totally ridiculous responses designed to derail a thread like Eriksson and Pouliot that the team can't pay to move. Something like Guadette/Virtanen and Edler or Tanev, Guadette/Goldy/Barsetchi and a vet dman? Fantasy stuff, the entire forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Maybe their 1st for Edler. Don't see them moving Ottawa's first for any reason, free top tier prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: The Canucks are still rebuilding, the absence of a rookie is devastating. Colorado is a playoff team with some depth but needing more, at both forward and defence. They have two first round picks one of which is Ottawa's. If they dangled that pick out there at the TDL which top players would be reasonable and good return? There are always the totally ridiculous responses designed to derail a thread like Eriksson and Pouliot that the team can't pay to move. Something like Guadette/Virtanen and Edler or Tanev, Guadette/Goldy/Barsetchi and a vet dman? Fantasy stuff, the entire forum. I can't envision Colorado trading Ottawa's pick since there's a good chance it'll be a top 5. It would more than likely be Colorado's pick in play in that situation. I'd be comfortable with Edler or Tanev, Baertschi and a late pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Colorado are still rebuilding - they are more likely to look to add picks and prospects themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: I can't envision Colorado trading Ottawa's pick since there's a good chance it'll be a top 5. It would more than likely be Colorado's pick in play in that situation. I'd be comfortable with Edler or Tanev, Baertschi and a late pick. I would not give up a top 3 d man, a 2nd line LW and a late pick for a 20th+ OA pick. That seems like a overpayment to me for a pick that may or may not pan out in 2-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Why would they trade Ottawa's pick? Especially to our team for anyone not named Boeser or Petey. We could maybe get their first. But their pick could also end up being a lottery pick given they aren't playing nearly as good as they were to start the year. They are tied for points with us with 1 game in hand and are 3-7 in their last 10. If they trade their pick to stop the bleeding they'll do it for more than anything we'd reasonably offer. Since we are actually hurting for depth forwards as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 COL's response - Nah, that's okay. We don't want your castoffs. We'll just keep the pick, maybe that'll be Jack Hughes, and try to win a Cup in the next 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, mll said: Colorado are still rebuilding - they are more likely to look to add picks and prospects themselves. Aren't all teams looking to add picks and prospects? To me, you should always be 'rebuilding'. Keep the cupboard stocked and churning out prospects at a high rate. If needed you move them to fill holes or move others along and fill them with youth. The process of rebuilding should never have a finite end. If that mentality exists, then your management team is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, RonMexico said: Aren't all teams looking to add picks and prospects? To me, you should always be 'rebuilding'. Keep the cupboard stocked and churning out prospects at a high rate. If needed you move them to fill holes or move others along and fill them with youth. The process of rebuilding should never have a finite end. If that mentality exists, then your management team is the problem. Depends how short you expect the window is. At some point it might be advisable to go “all in”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said: The Canucks are still rebuilding, the absence of a rookie is devastating. Colorado is a playoff team with some depth but needing more, at both forward and defence. They have two first round picks one of which is Ottawa's. If they dangled that pick out there at the TDL which top players would be reasonable and good return? There are always the totally ridiculous responses designed to derail a thread like Eriksson and Pouliot that the team can't pay to move. Something like Guadette/Virtanen and Edler or Tanev, Guadette/Goldy/Barsetchi and a vet dman? Fantasy stuff, the entire forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 if the van's a rockin'..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Depends how short you expect the window is. At some point it might be advisable to go “all in”. Fair but this has to be an antiquated thought process. If you have a healthy system of player drafting and development, going in all in should never need to be an option at all. Or at least not a full on sell off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 hours ago, RonMexico said: Aren't all teams looking to add picks and prospects? To me, you should always be 'rebuilding'. Keep the cupboard stocked and churning out prospects at a high rate. If needed you move them to fill holes or move others along and fill them with youth. The process of rebuilding should never have a finite end. If that mentality exists, then your management team is the problem. That's a given but Colorado is more in the Canucks stage than say where Nashville is. They have found their top line but the rest of the lineup is still a work in progress before they are truly competitive and consider themselves contenders. They are still a young team and are waiting on players like Makar, Timmins to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said: The Canucks are still rebuilding, the absence of a rookie is devastating. Colorado is a playoff team with some depth but needing more, at both forward and defence. They have two first round picks one of which is Ottawa's. If they dangled that pick out there at the TDL which top players would be reasonable and good return? There are always the totally ridiculous responses designed to derail a thread like Eriksson and Pouliot that the team can't pay to move. Something like Guadette/Virtanen and Edler or Tanev, Guadette/Goldy/Barsetchi and a vet dman? Fantasy stuff, the entire forum. Maybe it should be Benning come knocking instead. If we end up somehow making the playoffs, which isn’t at all out of the realm of possibility, we will be missing out on a lottery ticket that we could really use. Tanev is the obvious piece but we’d really miss him... Probably not enough as COL is sitting in the cat bird seat with OTT struggling this year...doubt we could give up what it would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: if the van's a rockin'..... Can I use my name and lockin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Boeser for 1st over all (if they win it via Ottawa), in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 9 hours ago, TheGuardian_ said: The Canucks are still rebuilding, the absence of a rookie is devastating. Colorado is a playoff team with some depth but needing more, at both forward and defence. They have two first round picks one of which is Ottawa's. If they dangled that pick out there at the TDL which top players would be reasonable and good return? There are always the totally ridiculous responses designed to derail a thread like Eriksson and Pouliot that the team can't pay to move. Something like Guadette/Virtanen and Edler or Tanev, Guadette/Goldy/Barsetchi and a vet dman? Fantasy stuff, the entire forum. The Canucks literally have the best rookie in the entire NHL on their current roster. Current standings: Colorado - 52 points Vancouver - 52 points But the Canucks are "rebuilding" and Colorado is a "playoff" team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceGeorgeGoon Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Anything that would garner the Col 1st would outrage the board for 2 or 3 years. Looking back through the last couple years weve said and heard it all. However i do think Jim is getting better at his job, now more than ever i trust if he makes a move its a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, xereau said: Boeser for 1st over all (if they win it via Ottawa), in the off season. Boeser for Jack Hughes? I don't even see that happening. Both teams want somebody who is further along than a 17 year old. But do we really think that the Canucks have that guy? Even if they had that guy, they would be trading for a player who will be 6 years younger than Bo Horvat. The Canucks would rather have a prospect than a pick for this reason. But any player who the Av's might want in return for that pick would be considered core for the future Canucks. Horvat, Boeser, Pettersson, Hughes, Demko. None of those deals are acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Boeser for Jack Hughes? I don't even see that happening. Both teams want somebody who is further along than a 17 year old. But do we really think that the Canucks have that guy? Even if they had that guy, they would be trading for a player who will be 6 years younger than Bo Horvat. The Canucks would rather have a prospect than a pick for this reason. But any player who the Av's might want in return for that pick would be considered core for the future Canucks. Horvat, Boeser, Pettersson, Hughes, Demko. None of those deals are acceptable. If we draft Jack Hughes he’s going to leD us to Cup. If we don’t get him, he’s going to be a bustaroo. It’s that simple. If a poster thinks otherwise he is a TROLL, and needs to move to Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.