CallAfterLife Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) On 9/20/2020 at 5:50 PM, Nuxfanabroad said: Thorough post & quite reasonable argument. I didn't specify above, but in truth I was thinking more in terms of an overall, organization sense(spanning GM's & decades). Like still getting mileage outa' varied assets like the Kesler, Schneider, & (wayyy back to) the original Linden pick. Feel this is a somewhat stealthy way for a team to potentially maintain competitiveness. Every organization tries to recycles assets. Arguments about how proficient the Canucks have been could go either way. But something to note. If the Canucks don't resign Markstrom, they'll have effectively ended up with nothing in the Luongo trade except a cap penalty. On 9/21/2020 at 11:32 AM, Fred65 said: Stealthy for sure, it stealthed right past me I'm not calling Benning a bad GM and there's obviously no evidence as to whether he would have drafted these players, but purely from a historical perspective it's quite interesting to note the players that could have been drafted had Benning kept certain picks instead of dealing them. Instead of Garrison becoming Vey. Roland McKeown and Brandon Montour. Both right handed defencemen. If Carolina wasn't stacked on defence than McKeown would have had an opportunity in the NHL. Montour is already an everyday NHL player and interestingly enough he and Boeser both played on the same team in the USHL. Christian Dvorak. A fast winger that can put up points and has been more consistent in the NHL than Virtanen. Instead of Bieksa becoming a 2nd that was packed to get Sutter. Dillon Dube and Taylor Raddysh. Both wingers. Dube was arguably Calgary's best playoff performer. Not really saying much since Calgary was terrible overall. Raddysh likely would have gotten a chance in the NHL if Tampa wasn't stacked on forwards. Again not criticizing. Just calling attention to possibilities. Edited September 28, 2020 by CallAfterLife 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CallAfterLife said: Every organization tries to recycles assets. Arguments about how proficient the Canucks have been could go either way. But something to note. If the Canucks don't resign Markstrom, they'll have effectively ended up with nothing in the Luongo trade except a cap penalty. I'm not calling Benning a bad GM and there's obviously no evidence as to whether he would have drafted these players, but purely from a historical perspective it's quite interesting to note the players that could have drafted had Benning kept certain picks instead of dealing them. Instead of Garrison becoming Vey. Roland McKeown and Brandon Montour. Both right handed defencemen. If Carolina wasn't stacked on defence than McKeown would have had an opportunity in the NHL. Montour is already an everyday NHL player and interestingly enough he and Boeser both played on the same team in the USHL. Christian Dvorak. A fast winger that can put up points and has been more consistent in the NHL than Virtanen. Instead of Bieksa becoming a 2nd that was packed to get Sutter. Dillon Dube and Taylor Raddysh. Both wingers. Dube was arguably Calgary's best playoff performer. Not really saying much since Calgary was terrible overall. Raddysh likely would have gotten a chance in the NHL if Tampa wasn't stacked on forwards. Again not criticizing. Just call attention to possibilities. You have to look deeper than that imo. Sure we no longer have any assets left from that trade but it was years ago. Neither does florida. What we did gain was a playoff birth, and in turn invaluable experience for our young core. It's like saying we have nothing to show for the trades we made to draft the twins. Edited September 21, 2020 by 73 Percent 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallAfterLife Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, 73 Percent said: You have to look deeper than that imo. Sure we no longer have any assets left from that trade but it was years ago. Neither does florida. What we did gain was a playoff birth, and in turn invaluable experience for our young core. It's like saying we have nothing to show for the trades we made to draft the twins. I wasn't going for deep and intangible. Just purely trying to make a point about assets in and assets out. I mean come on. The guy I was responding used Linden as an example. The Sedins were franchise defining talents. I have nothing but love and respect for them only ever wearing the Canucks jersey. Edited September 21, 2020 by CallAfterLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 How is Karlsson doing so far this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Pete M said: How is Karlsson doing so far this year? the league he's in is on hold. no games played so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The Allsvenskan back up for a few games now, Linus Karlson has played 2-3 games from what I recall, but has been slotted on RW on the third line. Kinda off because Karlskoga had him at centre on their second line last season where he exploded for 18 points in 12 games for them. Only start of the season and start up since they shutdown briefly due to covid but he is starting off a bit cold. 6 games played and only 1 assist and a -1. Something to keep an eye on for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hesitant to post this, 'cos its unsubstantiated. A friend (who can't remember where he heard it or read it, but does follow Swedish and Finnish hockey) said he was playing with a heavily taped right wrist, result of blocking a shot in the first or second game. Seemed to be badly affecting his shooting. If correct, then would explain a lot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Two goals for Karlsson today: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 That's my boy !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Hopefully the floodgates open for him now, after the slow start. Also hopefully this signals that the rumoured wrist injury has healed up and he’s back to 100% and no longer hindered by any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Still a pretty promising prospect for us at centre, where we pretty lean outside of our NHL roster. A few years away at least, but could still be a nice bottom 6 centre for us down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2nd straight game Karlsson has been moved to the 2nd line LW. Very much building a repertoire as a utility player who can play anywhere, everywhere, anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: 2nd straight game Karlsson has been moved to the 2nd line LW. Very much building a repertoire as a utility player who can play anywhere, everywhere, anytime. Sounds like a Markus Granlund to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 12:22 PM, theo5789 said: Sounds like a Markus Granlund to me. We can only hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ruilin96 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 12:22 PM, theo5789 said: Sounds like a Markus Granlund to me. 16 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: We can only hope! Granlund still played 335 NHL games in his career, that is still pretty decent. When he plays, he can provide little bit of offense and he can kill penalty. His biggest knock and why he no longer is in the NHL is that he isn't tenacious and hungry enough on the puck. He also isn't gritty enough to be a regular bottom 6 (and he was suppose to be a center but he is horrible at the dot). He also doesn't have the production to be a regular top 6 player. Granlund's career was at the cross roads last season, he either has to figure out a way to produce at a top 6 level or he must develop grit and tenacity to be a middle or bottom 6 player and he was neither. If say Granlund plays the way Motte does, he would've still been in the NHL. Back on toping of Karlsson. For Karlsson to have a successful NHL career, he has to be gritty and difficult to play against. I don't see him as a top 6 forward, I hope he will turn into a solid 3rd/4th liner who is hard to play against, kills penalties and can chip in an odd goal here and there. He has the potential to be that, but he will still need some development time to adjust his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Granlund still played 335 NHL games in his career, that is still pretty decent. When he plays, he can provide little bit of offense and he can kill penalty. His biggest knock and why he no longer is in the NHL is that he isn't tenacious and hungry enough on the puck. He also isn't gritty enough to be a regular bottom 6 (and he was suppose to be a center but he is horrible at the dot). He also doesn't have the production to be a regular top 6 player. Granlund's career was at the cross roads last season, he either has to figure out a way to produce at a top 6 level or he must develop grit and tenacity to be a middle or bottom 6 player and he was neither. If say Granlund plays the way Motte does, he would've still been in the NHL. Back on toping of Karlsson. For Karlsson to have a successful NHL career, he has to be gritty and difficult to play against. I don't see him as a top 6 forward, I hope he will turn into a solid 3rd/4th liner who is hard to play against, kills penalties and can chip in an odd goal here and there. He has the potential to be that, but he will still need some development time to adjust his game. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't knocking on Karlsson, but I was just trying to make a comparable that maybe people here could relate to. I was hopeful for Granlund to be a good utility player that could play in any situation. A more successful version of this type of player that I hope Karlsson could become is Calle Jarnkrok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Great game by Linus today! He looks like a solid center that will at least be able to get a contract and be a depth guy in Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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