mll Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Seems a little strange that we'd sign this guy to 925k for one year (THIS YEAR) and then have to resign him as a free agent this summer. Are we that desperate to test out some new D before the end of the season and see who might have a chance of sticking? There were several teams interested in him. Burning his ELC immediately is typically a selling point. Jets did that with Brandon Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm_ranger Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Burning this year turned him from an UFA to our RFA. For a 950K (pro-rated =? I'm not doing the math) we threw a little money to get an asset that we can resign in the summer. If we didn't someone else would have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, mll said: His ELC had to be 1 year but they could have it start only next season. He could have joined Utica on an ATO. He is a February birthday so he is not going to turn 25 this year. His signing age is 24 regardless of when he turns pro - whether now by burning his ELC, which is what he is going to do, or only next season and instead finishing the season on an ATO in Utica. I'm not sure about all the intricacies of signing NCAA players, but burning a year this year is also an incentive for players to sign as my understanding is that it gets them closer to free agency. If a team insisted on having the contract start the next year, then that might make that team's offer less attractive. Assuming Teves actually gets some time in with the Canucks to close out this season, it's also a good experience for him. Expectations are pretty much nil, especially with all the attention being placed on Hughes, and it'll give him a better idea of what to work on over the summer. Not sure where Teves will end up on the depth chart in the future, but he may already be a better option than some of the depth D the Canucks currently have. My guess is that Pouliot and Biega will sit once Tanev, Hughes and Teves are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Doesn't look like Canucks are done yet. excellent... Nico Sturm would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, burrardstreetbullies said: i love what he is doing with the D core. literally fighting for a roster spot now and it will weed the dusters out. literally still waiting for the day loui errikson is put on waivers thou If I was him I’d feel very guilty and I’d retire this summer and go play in Europe or just retire and do something else. guy is robbing the organization and the fans. He’s overpaid, under performing and it’s not going to change. I know it wont happen but I think it would be the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 The numbers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Can the team put Pouliot on waivers and get an extra contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: If Edler is re-signed we will have a logjam on the left side.. He's a prospect. Almost no college UFA's, particularly those undrafted, jump directly into the NHL from college. Detroit had Dekeyser a few years back. But that is the exception, not the norm. LA had Danial Brickley last year. And there was a huge buzz. But he did not make it right away. Even on a bad LA team. Nor has he been called up to play when they have traded away NHL D. 4 NHL games so far. Juolevi will spend most of next year in the NHL. My opinion only. And Teves will get a chance to compete for the same roster spot. But more likely becomes the top PMD prospect on the Comets. And his window is to win a spot before Rathbone arrives. Assuming Rathbone arrives, who is currently a college rookie 3 or 4 years younger. But Teves is 23. If he does not beat Juolevi for a job? There is a strong chance he was just signed to improve our Comets team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Rush17 said: Damn your quick lol **fingers crossed** I'm a bit jealous of the Leafs and Duszak. He's a righty, exactly what they need, similar numbers plus a full 2 & 1/2 years younger. edit > much better numbers actually, 47 points as a D? But I'm very much an amateur. More than a few teams have tried to sign Teves, and before this year. He's also going to get a chance to play some BHL games this spring for us. That's already ahead of my expectations. So what do I know... 4 hours ago, brownky said: So here's the thing for the 'logjam' folks. Tanev is always injured, assuming he's even here in two years. I like him, but reality is he may well get moved for a return. Edler will probably be back for two years, and is also injured more frequently. Moreover, these prospects we have may or may not go the way of Corrado (etc), where they're almost good enough but... not quite. So they don't make it. Or, they ARE good enough, do make it, and leave options to trade other players for a return. Whether it's prospect for prospect/pick or as part of a larger trade. Assuming we're going to be dressing a lineup of 9 left sided d-men for the next decade is VancouverSportsRadioIdiot bait, not set in reality. LOL, post of the day. Hands down! We need players! 1 hour ago, burrardstreetbullies said: i love what he is doing with the D core. literally fighting for a roster spot now and it will weed the dusters out. literally still waiting for the day loui errikson is put on waivers thou And of course here is the point. Nicely wrapped up in this post by BSB Create competition. Let the guy who always come out of the corner battle with the puck, to release pressure with a neat first pass have the NHL job! Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DrJockitch Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 With Teves and Hughes coming to Canucks who is going on waivers or down? Brisebois clearly. Sautner as well, I assume, though frankly there a couple other guys I would rather see waived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said: He's a prospect. Almost no college UFA's, particularly those undrafted, jump directly into the NHL from college. Detroit had Dekeyser a few years back. But that is the exception, not the norm. LA had Danial Brickley last year. And there was a huge buzz. But he did not make it right away. Even on a bad LA team. Nor has he been called up to play when they have traded away NHL D. 4 NHL games so far. Juolevi will spend most of next year in the NHL. My opinion only. And Teves will get a chance to compete for the same roster spot. But more likely becomes the top PMD prospect on the Comets. And his window is to win a spot before Rathbone arrives. Assuming Rathbone arrives, who is currently a college rookie 3 or 4 years younger. But Teves is 23. If he does not beat Juolevi for a job? There is a strong chance he was just signed to improve our Comets team. Stecher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Sautner, Eliot, Teves..appears for mid/late season freebie-signings, we've been going with these non-flashy, mid-sized, 'sedan' type D-men. I imagine they all must share decent wheels/manoeuvrability? Will be interesting to see if any of them truly pan out. A Brian Rafalski type steal, would sure boost the blueline. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, as they say... Throw it against the wall and see what sticks. It's good that they've prioritized D-men to go after. Get younger and faster and shed some dead weight from the current roster. There's going to be plenty of players not re-signed next year that will open up contract spots for next season. From the forward group they need to give games to MacEwen and Jasek, but it's tough when Utica is in the middle of a tight playoff race with the Marlies and Senators. Free prospects are the best signings so we'll see how many of them turn into players. Nothing ventured nothing gained when it comes to these young bubble guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, canuckledraggin said: Throw it against the wall and see what sticks. It's good that they've prioritized D-men to go after. Get younger and faster and shed some dead weight from the current roster. There's going to be plenty of players not re-signed next year that will open up contract spots for next season. From the forward group they need to give games to MacEwen and Jasek, but it's tough when Utica is in the middle of a tight playoff race with the Marlies and Senators. Free prospects are the best signings so we'll see how many of them turn into players. Nothing ventured nothing gained when it comes to these young bubble guys. Ya, could prob compare it to free 4th or 5th rounders being signed(only at an age of almost developed)..as long as they squeeze all moves within the 50 contract limit, there really are no hitches. With the criticism of JB having dealt a number of picks, this seems to be a way to balance out that 2014~18 pick-quantity ledger. With the relative success of Tanev & Stecher, glad they keep dipping into this well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Stecher? LOL, yeah home grown example. But its still rare. He was also 22, Teves is 24. I suppose that makes it kinda close to now or never... The Garrisons that surfaces at 24 or 25 are even more rare. (Please don't cite Garrison or Bartkowski ). Like I said in an earlier post, who am I to know? I think its a long shot, but more than 1 NHL team wanted to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Can the team put Pouliot on waivers and get an extra contract? Only if someone picks him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: LOL, yeah home grown example. But its still rare. He was also 22, Teves is 24. I suppose that makes it kinda close to now or never... The Garrisons that surfaces at 24 or 25 are even more rare. (Please don't cite Garrison or Bartkowski ). Like I said in an earlier post, who am I to know? I think its a long shot, but more than 1 NHL team wanted to sign him. The positive things from it possibly is that if he does well, perhaps we can look at moving someone like Hutton while his value is high. Or maybe it's insurance if Edler chooses to walk (of course he isn't going to replace what Edler provides, but if he's a decent player, he can eat some of the minutes in the meantime). Worst case is he bolsters Utica and adds some call up depth for our inevitable injuries. I think the biggest thing might be that we use him as an excuse to sit Hughes out a few games to give him a look so Hughes doesn't end up playing more than 9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: He shoots left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Can the team put Pouliot on waivers and get an extra contract? They don't need to. His contract expires this year. Motte Pouliot and Shenn come off the books is they're smart. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, HerrDrFunk said: Isn't the contract pro-rated? Yes, but cost isn't the question, his contract expires July 1st. Why not 2 years and expire next summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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