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Joe Biden Debates Donald Trump September 29


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38 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Sleepy Joe was awake last might, as well as older voters. Can't say the same for voters under the age of 30. I was looking forward to see "historic and unprecedented voter turnout" same one that was going to beat Trump in November.

Big night of Internet surfing for the U30 crowd.  Lots of Bachelor, Survivor, and Snooki news to keep up with.  Young US voters are far more interested in their selfish lives than being educated and active about what’s important.  Same goes for us up here.  Other than a small monitory, we are mostly satisfied with others doing things for us rather than doing them ourselves.  

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10 hours ago, Ryan Strome said:

Lmao Democrats love the establishment candidate. :lol:

sure seems that way, but their delegate system is rigged that way - its really a goofy system: https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_delegate_rules,_2020

 

Bernie has to crush his next closest opponent by over 700 delegates or the "super delegates" can put in who they want, and they represent status quo. 

 

Ah well, I've thought for a while now we're in for 8 years of the orange clown. I don't see how Biden beats him with the way things are in the US. 

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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Big night of Internet surfing for the U30 crowd.  Lots of Bachelor, Survivor, and Snooki news to keep up with.  Young US voters are far more interested in their selfish lives than being educated and active about what’s important.  Same goes for us up here.  Other than a small monitory, we are mostly satisfied with others doing things for us rather than doing them ourselves.  

thats one spin on it. The other is they've lost hope Alf and don't see the system working for them whoever is in power. Thats pretty damn sad, and not funny in the least. 

 

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1 minute ago, Alflives said:

Big night of Internet surfing for the U30 crowd.  Lots of Bachelor, Survivor, and Snooki news to keep up with.  Young US voters are far more interested in their selfish lives than being educated and active about what’s important.  Same goes for us up here.  Other than a small monitory, we are mostly satisfied with others doing things for us rather than doing them ourselves.  

what can you say, they learned from the older generations who selfishly screwed it up for them. 

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3 minutes ago, inane said:

what can you say, they learned from the older generations who selfishly screwed it up for them. 

Totally agree.  Started in the 50’s, with all the new creature comfort inventions, and it’s been downhill since.  It might take some real nasty event to shake things up.  Another world war maybe?  

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Michael Bloomberg is suspending Presidential campaign

Wed 4 Mar 2020 15:08:24 GMT

 

Axios report

Bloomberg throws in the towel. That was a great way to spend $500m.
 
Reports earlier today said he flew back to New York overnight rather than head to a planned bus-tour in Florida.
 
Bloomberg has pledged to continuing playing his massive campaign team through November to support whoever wins the nomination.
 
 
In a statement he said:
 
"I've always believed that defeating Donald Trump starts with uniting behind the candidate with the best shot to do it. After yesterday's vote, it is clear that candidate is my friend and a great American, Joe Biden."
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1 minute ago, nuckin_futz said:

Michael Bloomberg is suspending Presidential campaign

Wed 4 Mar 2020 15:08:24 GMT

 

Axios report

Bloomberg throws in the towel. That was a great way to spend $500m.
 
Reports earlier today said he flew back to New York overnight rather than head to a planned bus-tour in Florida.
 
Bloomberg has pledged to continuing playing his massive campaign team through November to support whoever wins the nomination.
 
 
In a statement he said:
 
"I've always believed that defeating Donald Trump starts with uniting behind the candidate with the best shot to do it. After yesterday's vote, it is clear that candidate is my friend and a great American, Joe Biden."

Great American, “Sleepy Joe”? :lol:

Dems are doomed.  Trump will make Biden out to be a perverted old creepy guy.  “Crooked Hillary” and now “perverted Sleepy Joe”.  I think Trump tweets something funny about Biden today. 

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4 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Great American, “Sleepy Joe”? :lol:

Dems are doomed.  Trump will make Biden out to be a perverted old creepy guy.  “Crooked Hillary” and now “perverted Sleepy Joe”.  I think Trump tweets something funny about Biden today. 

Biden will defeat Trump by 7-10 points.

 

I'm fine with 1 term of Biden. I'll reserve my judgement on a 2nd term.

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5 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:
Bloomberg has pledged to continuing playing his massive campaign team through November to support whoever wins the nomination.

I guess he never was serious about his candidacy? B)

 

Cushy job I guess, although I wonder if that means people will be asked to work to promote Biden now.

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26 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Trump already calls Biden “Sleepy Joe” and hints at the guy being some sort of pervert.  

Im curious if Bernie will be selected by Biden for VP, or if that’s already been promised to Buttigieg?

Buttigieg and Kloubach dropped out at precisely the same time and used essentially the exact same talking points when they announced their endorsement of Biden.  While both still had an outside shot to do some damage on Super Tuesday.  Let's call a "shovel a shovel here" and be completely honest.  There's little question that both were offered something.

 

Nobody's speeches (outside of Michelle Obama and Mrs. Trump) are that similar without some level of communication. They used essentially the same talking points as well.

 

Kloubach or Buttigieg will probably have some sort of plum seat awaiting them after the DNC openly gives Biden the crown.  Bernie's "dirtbag left" will refuse to vote, the disenfranchised left base who will openly see that there is no benefit to a return to the DNC same old vs more of the Trump same old as they are effectively the same thing and will just stay home.

 

The main reason people don't vote is that they feel their votes don't matter.  In this instance, it's hard to say they aren't right

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1 minute ago, Kragar said:

I guess he never was serious about his candidacy? B)

 

Cushy job I guess, although I wonder if that means people will be asked to work to promote Biden now.

That's a typo, it should read "paying". His team is paid through November. So he'll put them to work doing his bidding.

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24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

sure seems that way, but their delegate system is rigged that way - its really a goofy system: https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_delegate_rules,_2020

 

Bernie has to crush his next closest opponent by over 700 delegates or the "super delegates" can put in who they want, and they represent status quo. 

 

Ah well, I've thought for a while now we're in for 8 years of the orange clown. I don't see how Biden beats him with the way things are in the US. 

This is truly ironic, especially as the DNC has raged for 4 years about Clinton winning the popular vote but the electoral college selecting Trump as the presidential winner

 

Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat

 

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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Buttigieg and Kloubach dropped out at precisely the same time and used essentially the exact same talking points when they announced their endorsement of Biden.  While both still had an outside shot to do some damage on Super Tuesday.  Let's call a "shovel a shovel here" and be completely honest.  There's little question that both were offered something.

 

Nobody's speeches (outside of Michelle Obama and Mrs. Trump) are that similar without some level of communication. They used essentially the same talking points as well.

 

Kloubach or Buttigieg will probably have some sort of plum seat awaiting them after the DNC openly gives Biden the crown.  Bernie's "dirtbag left" will refuse to vote, the disenfranchised left base who will openly see that there is no benefit to a return to the DNC same old vs more of the Trump same old as they are effectively the same thing and will just stay home.

 

The main reason people don't vote is that they feel their votes don't matter.  In this instance, it's hard to say they aren't right

Buttigieg VP and Klouback Secretary of State?  

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11 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

Michael Bloomberg is suspending Presidential campaign

Wed 4 Mar 2020 15:08:24 GMT

 

Axios report

Bloomberg throws in the towel. That was a great way to spend $500m.
 
Reports earlier today said he flew back to New York overnight rather than head to a planned bus-tour in Florida.
 
Bloomberg has pledged to continuing playing his massive campaign team through November to support whoever wins the nomination.
 
 
In a statement he said:
 
"I've always believed that defeating Donald Trump starts with uniting behind the candidate with the best shot to do it. After yesterday's vote, it is clear that candidate is my friend and a great American, Joe Biden."

Gee...shocking isn't it?  A wealthy billionaire who refuses to endorse Sanders after dropping out. 

 

Biden promising more of the same and zero change from the current state of affairs vs Bernie 

 

A smart billionaire knows who will keep his money safe

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Just now, nuckin_futz said:

That's a typo, it should read "paying". His team is paid through November. So he'll put them to work doing his bidding.

Yeah, I know.  One of the better typos I've seen in a while.  I had heard about him paying people through Novemeber regardless of how long he was in the race.

 

Paying them quite well, too, IIRC.  I would guess it's a write-off come tax time.

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2 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

This is truly ironic, especially as the DNC has raged for 4 years about Clinton winning the popular vote but the electoral college selecting Trump as the presidential winner

 

Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat

 

Nicely put, never looked at it that way.

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26 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

thats one spin on it. The other is they've lost hope Alf and don't see the system working for them whoever is in power. Thats pretty damn sad, and not funny in the least. 

 

Watching the DNC effectively tell the U30 crowd "it doesn't matter what you want, we have already made our choice" has to be disheartening

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2 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

This is truly ironic, especially as the DNC has raged for 4 years about Clinton winning the popular vote but the electoral college selecting Trump as the presidential winner

 

Hypocrisy, thy name is Democrat

 

The DNC reformed their system of Super Delegates approx 3 years ago. Bernie had a major say in how it was reformed and is fine with it.

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