Trans individuals are killing female sports

[6string 5,156]

Many know about the Conneticut High School Track and Field Championship over the last two years where two TGs are smashing records and taking away oppurtunities from young women pursuing their dreams including possible sholarships.

 

Which University in America will be the first to recruit a TG for women sport?

 

 A sad reality that may happen.

 

 

[Violator 2,238]

All the power to them society wants things to end up this way what can you do.

[Generational.EP40 1,168]

I’m hoping people are mature enough to not take offense and get the point what’s being said.

 

 

Man changes gender to female, breaks weightlifting record, and switches back to male right after 

 

 

 

 

/thread.

 

You can’t convince science/biological facts as to being wrong. It’s a disgrace. Make a transgender section or don’t compete at all with a clear cheating advantage.

Edited May 12, 2019 by Generational.EP40

[Generational.EP40 1,168]

1 hour ago, Jack_T said:

Absolute horse$&!#.

 

This is what’s wrong with society. Lmaooo 

 

 

Imagine thinking you’re beyond science and biology  

[kingofsurrey 8,357]

4 hours ago, naslund.is.king said:

sure lets throw science out the window to make people feel better

I guess if someone wants to be classified as an animal they deserve that too

i guess pedophiles deserve the right to determine they're really a kid/teenager no matter what theyre birth certificate or science says

 

Gender is a continuum and fluid , the world has evolved.  People need to make an effort and keep evolving as well. 

 

 

Edited May 12, 2019 by kingofsurrey

[kingofsurrey 8,357]

3 hours ago, naslund.is.king said:

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, 6string said:

Many know about the Conneticut High School Track and Field Championship over the last two years where two TGs are smashing records and taking away oppurtunities from young women pursuing

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, Generational.EP40 said:

 

This is what’s wrong with society. Lmaooo 

 

 

Imagine thinking you’re beyond science and biology  

Hilarious that you accuse me of the one being beyond science.

 

Call it a hunch, but I believe the same people who argue in favour of outdated scientific views that suggest there is only “XX and XY” are the same ones who would argue women have no place in sport. 

 

I suppose this is progress. The regressive right have been resigned to accepting women in sport.

Edited May 12, 2019 by Guest

[Jimmy McGill 43,101]

2 hours ago, naslund.is.king said:

It is physiologically impossible to change someone sex,  the sex of each individual is encoded in the genes—XX if female, XY if male. Surgery can only create the appearance of the other sex

sexual identity is on every cell of the body and can be determined through DNA testing. It cannot be changed.

Please though tell me otherwise

 

The genetics of sex are not that simple - there are variants to that: https://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

 

Also, you are making a common mistake and equating sex and gender. They are not the same thing. 

 

If you're really interested read the link above and also this one from the APA: https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender

 

I've posted this info before in other discussions on this, I'm not interested in a political-type or Ben Shaprio based discussion on it, the scientific view is easy to find if you're actually interested. 

 

[ilduce39 9,006]

2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

these threads always end up in the same place. There's no point in having them. 

No kidding.  

 

For a chuckle, check out Ben Shapiro’s hissy fit on the BBC when Andrew Neil (a conservative himself) didn’t let him prop up his usual “right vs left, you’re being biased” victim card.  

 

On topic: I think there’s a rational discussion to be had around trans athletes but some of the people dying to have this conversation don’t have the understanding of transgenderism itself to have the discussion on trans athletics.  

[Jimmy McGill 43,101]

2 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

No kidding.  

 

For a chuckle, check out Ben Shapiro’s hissy fit on the BBC when Andrew Neil (a conservative himself) didn’t let him prop up his usual “right vs left, you’re being biased” victim card.  

 

On topic: I think there’s a rational discussion to be had around trans athletes but some of the people dying to have this conversation don’t have the understanding of transgenderism itself to have the discussion on trans athletics.  

yeah I saw that, that was a bomber hissy fit.

 

For sure there is a discussion that needs having on sport, its not like its a person applying for a regular job, e.g. Sport is probably the one of the few, maybe only, area where you could build an argument for exclusion, but it would have to be done with some care. Maybe some sports open to any athletes is the best way to go? dunno. 

[nux4lyfe 4,616]

We live in a world where media promotes this kind of crap, d emasculating men Ala Gillette commercial , Promoting the LGBTAFGLMNOP community left and right..and it's becoming socially acceptable..I am worried for our future.

[Whaleroad Train 1,060]

3 hours ago, naslund.is.king said:

It is physiologically impossible to change someone sex,  the sex of each individual is encoded in the genes—XX if female, XY if male. Surgery can only create the appearance of the other sex

sexual identity is on every cell of the body and can be determined through DNA testing. It cannot be changed.

Please though tell me otherwise

 

 

So what gender is someone who has XXY chromosomes? or XXXY? or XXYY? or XXX? or XXXX? or XXXXX?  What Gender is X with a blank?  Y with a blank?  Also what gender is someone born with AIS? The human being is one hell of a lot more complicated than you have been taught in High school Biology class I'm afraid.

[Hansman 125]

I have no problem with people pretending what ever they want, but are the trans people (dudes) dominating women sports kind of taking away from real female athletes? And would that not set back women sport in general if you just let men in skirts go win the sport?

Besides if they just gave every one a medal or trophy everybody would be included, YAY 2019!!

[kingofsurrey 8,357]

6 minutes ago, nux4lyfe said:

We live in a world where media promotes this kind of crap, d emasculating men Ala Gillette commercial , Promoting the LGBTAFGLMNOP community left and right..and it's becoming socially acceptable..I am worried for our future.

Yeh because heterosexuals are being abused, discriminated against on a daily basis across our country.... sickening...

[CBH1926 6,886]

Simple solution, men vs men, women vs women and transgender vs transgender.

 

 

[Hansman 125]

Just now, CBH1926 said:

Simple solution, men vs men, women vs women and transgender vs transgender.

 

 

and everyone gets a first place ribbon and no scores are kept, no fragile feelings get hurt. But seriously I agree with you

[Alflives 33,790]

3 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

if you bothered to check the scientific thinking on trans issues you'd see that it doesn't agree with you. And that other stuff is just silly. 

What we are witnessing now in women’s sport (with trans people competing) is looking kind of silly, isn’t it?  

It looks like Pandora’s box is open.  

Do you remember Dr. Rene Richards?  The 70’s Tennis player?  She was likely the first.  

 

[kingofsurrey 8,357]

1 minute ago, CBH1926 said:

Simple solution, men vs men, women vs women and transgender vs transgender.

 

 

How about a 4th category... ?    Men, Women, TG and  "other"

 

Everyone could find a place in these olympics.......

[Hansman 125]

1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said:

How about a 4th category... ?    Men, Women, TG and  "other"

 

Everyone could find a place in these olympics.......

Why bother even keeping score? just let everyone win

[kingofsurrey 8,357]

8 minutes ago, Hansman said:

Why bother even keeping score? just let everyone win

I like it.   No winner is better option though..  Winnings sounds like such an outdated  concept. Such exclusionary of a term.....

Just give every athlete  a participation sticker / badge.    Play all 128 various national anthems at the awards / participation sticker awards event.

Make it a montage of all 128 countries  anthems...   Instead of  3 tier medal podium...   YOu go with a  one level bench... 25 meters long ... so all athletes can stand on it at the same time and get their stickers... of participation. 

Edited May 12, 2019 by kingofsurrey