Doogie Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) The draft is in Vancouver and I'm hoping the Canucks make a splash and trade for another lottery pick. A prime candidate to trade with is Edmonton; Edmonton needs help now and supposedly the talent level drops off after the 6th pick and some of those players may not be able to help a team this coming season. So what I propose is: To Vancouver: 8th Overall Sekera To Edmonton: Tanev 2nd Round pick 1st 2020 Edmonton is able to rid themselves of Sekera's contract and gives them a top four of Klefbom, Larsson, Nurse and Tanev. I added a first round pick from 2020 because Edmonton could just go out and try and trade the 8th overall for a younger top four defensemen. With this trade Edmonton not only acquires a top four defensemen, they shed just over 1 million in salary and get chance to make up for giving up the 8th overall and select in the lottery next year if Vancouver does not make the playoffs again. Vancouver on the other hand is able to absorb Sekera's contract for the next two season while also acquiring the 8th overall pick. With two picks in the top 10 the Canucks are able to draft a top rated forward and defensemen or try and move up into the top 3. Also, the Canucks could reacquire a 2nd round pick with another trade. What do you guys think, would this be a fair trade for both teams? Edited May 17, 2019 by Doogie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleShield Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I don;t know why we'd add a first round pick to this if we're giving them Tanev, a second and cap space. Also, when taking on cap dumps, priority needs to be serviceable player who are paid too much. I don't think Sekera meets the 1st criterion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogie Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, EagleShield said: I don;t know why we'd add a first round pick to this if we're giving them Tanev, a second and cap space. Also, when taking on cap dumps, priority needs to be serviceable player who are paid too much. I don't think Sekera meets the 1st criterion. Well, when you look at it from Edmonton's perspective, would you give up the 8th overall for Tanev a 2nd and 1 million in cap space? Also, Sekera is two years removed from a 35 point season, the last two years injuries haven't been kind to him. If he can stay health and get us 15-20 points I'd say that is a serviceable player. If he suffers another injury, we add him to IR or LTIR depending on severity and call up Sautner, Chatfield, Breisbois, Rafferty or Teves. But at the end of the day instead of walking away with one pick in the top 10 we have two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Sekera has a NMC until July 1st when he would have to submit a 15 team trade list at the club's request. Why would he waive early and why are you sure Vancouver would be on his list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 If the Oilers are wanting guys to play now, why are they taking back picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Sekera was actually pretty good for Edmonton when he came back from injury and ended the season healthy. Tanev missed the final 11 games with a lower body injury. I doubt Holland sees taking on a question mark in Tanev as a big enough win to trade away the 8th overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Sekera was actually pretty good for Edmonton when he came back from injury and ended the season healthy. Tanev missed the final 11 games with a lower body injury. I doubt Holland sees taking on a question mark in Tanev as a big enough win to trade away the 8th overall pick. marginally. For the cap hit we'd be better off just keeping Hutton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Doogie said: The draft is in Vancouver and I'm hoping the Canucks make a splash and trade for another lottery pick. A prime candidate to trade with is Edmonton; Edmonton needs help now and supposedly the talent level drops off after the 6th pick and some of those players may not be able to help a team this coming season. So what I propose is: To Vancouver: 8th Overall Sekera To Edmonton: Tanev 2nd Round pick 1st 2020 Edmonton is able to rid themselves of Sekera's contract and gives them a top four of Klefbom, Larsson, Nurse and Tanev. I added a first round pick from 2020 because Edmonton could just go out and try and trade the 8th overall for a younger top four defensemen. With this trade Edmonton not only acquires a top four defensemen, they shed just over 1 million in salary and get chance to make up for giving up the 8th overall and select in the lottery next year if Vancouver does not make the playoffs again. Vancouver on the other hand is able to absorb Sekera's contract for the next two season while also acquiring the 8th overall pick. With two picks in the top 10 the Canucks are able to draft a top rated forward and defensemen or try and move up into the top 3. Also, the Canucks could reacquire a 2nd round pick with another trade. What do you guys think, would this be a fair trade for both teams? I think we're overpaying a lot with that 2020 1st. We're helping out a division rival, which might hurt us for years, so its got to be lopsided in our favour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 To van: 8th overall, lucic, Russell, manning to edm: goldobin, sutter, granlund edm moves out 12m in salary and acquires some depth on cheaper deals 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUCKER67 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 EDM needs help now (getting rid of Lucic). I think any deal with EDM will involve Lucic. to VAN: #8 and Lucic to EDM: #40 Then, after Eriksson rips it up at the Worlds, they trade him. Get rid of one bad contract, pick up another, get an extra Top 10 pick. Lucic - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Krebs Hughes - Seider Juolevi - Woo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: EDM needs help now (getting rid of Lucic). I think any deal with EDM will involve Lucic. to VAN: #8 and Lucic to EDM: #40 Then, after Eriksson rips it up at the Worlds, they trade him. Get rid of one bad contract, pick up another, get an extra Top 10 pick. Lucic - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Krebs Hughes - Seider Juolevi - Woo Your proposal just might be the only way the Coil can rid themselves of Lucic's contract. Milan has a NMC. Maybe the only team he is willing to go to, that would actually want him (providing 8 OA comes along too) is the Canucks? If we could get 8 OA, would you trade 8 +10 for 2 (if Kakko goes first) to the Rags to draft Jack Hughes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUCKER67 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Alflives said: Your proposal just might be the only way the Coil can rid themselves of Lucic's contract. Milan has a NMC. Maybe the only team he is willing to go to, that would actually want him (providing 8 OA comes along too) is the Canucks? If we could get 8 OA, would you trade 8 +10 for 2 (if Kakko goes first) to the Rags to draft Jack Hughes? Ooh that would be tempting. Hughes - Pettersson - Boeser Even if Lucic regresses more over the next couple of years, he could always be dropped down to the 3rd line, while maybe Lind gets into the Top 6? With Lucic, I see him giving more effort to playing here than Loui. It obviously didn't work out for him in EDM. He was probably under the impression he would ride shotgun to McDavid for the next 7 years, but the coaching staff had other ideas. I'm sure he would like out too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: EDM needs help now (getting rid of Lucic). I think any deal with EDM will involve Lucic. to VAN: #8 and Lucic to EDM: #40 Then, after Eriksson rips it up at the Worlds, they trade him. Get rid of one bad contract, pick up another, get an extra Top 10 pick. Lucic - Pettersson - Boeser Pearson - Horvat - Krebs Hughes - Seider Juolevi - Woo I REALLY don't want Lucic here, but if we were doing a trade that involved him, I would want Eriksson going the other way. Cap hit balances out and I think that Eriksson would better fit Edmonton than he does here. To Van: #8 OA and Lucic To EDM: #40 OA Eriksson, 6th round pick 2019 If Edmonton needs to re-trade Eriksson, they can do that easier than we can Lucic, but I REALLY don't want to make this trade if I'm JB. We'd be acquiring an overpriced boat anchor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (proposal) we let edmonton suffer with the mess they made for themselves while we point at them and laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 If they are giving up the 8th it's not for a 2nd rounder and a future 1st rounder. Lol. The point is to improve now and with a top 10 pick it better be for a player that vastly improves your team. Tanev doesn't improve that team when he misses 20 games a year and is good for 5-10 points at best. They laugh and say "so about Hughes". We don't have what they want cause what they want we also want. Top 6 wingers and puck moving d-men. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
‹(•¿•)› Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Yeah, I don't think any of these trades would appeal to Edmonton in the least. A more realistic scenario might be: To Edm: 10th overall + Eriksson To Van: 8th overall + Lucic We move up 2 spots to take on an extra year of dead money. Not sure if I'd bother, then again if Lucic was to find a bottom six role, and provide some intimidation, it might be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ‹(•¿•)› said: Yeah, I don't think any of these trades would appeal to Edmonton in the least. A more realistic scenario might be: To Edm: 10th overall + Eriksson To Van: 8th overall + Lucic We move up 2 spots to take on an extra year of dead money. Not sure if I'd bother, then again if Lucic was to find a bottom six role, and provide some intimidation, it might be worth it. Disagree why take on a worse contract just to move up 2 spots. The tier of player you are getting between 8-10 isn't that much. Moving up 2 spots isn't enough of a sweetener to take on the Lucic contact even if they take LE. Edited May 18, 2019 by babalu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
‹(•¿•)› Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 6 hours ago, babalu said: Disagree why take on a worse contract just to move up 2 spots. The tier of player you are getting between 8-10 isn't that much. Moving up 2 spots isn't enough of a sweetener to take on the Lucic contact even if they take LE. Overall I agree with you, it's just that Eriksson is such a poor fit here, that it's tempting to try something like this just to see if Lucic might be able to find a role on the team. Best case scenario, we trade Eriksson to a team like Ottawa that needs to get to the floor. Not sure that'll happen, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 That's a lot. 2020 is probably another lotto pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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