[Mafia] Doughty's Check vs Patrick Kane - (Game on)

[Guest]

WhAtEvEr HaPpEnEd To ArMbAr

[Kryten]

An homage to Grimes:

 

[AV.]

@OurTimeToShine @Intoewsables @milk and honey @JohnLocke @Captain Aerosex 

[Beluga Whale]

28 minutes ago, Kryten said:

An homage to Grimes:

 

Oh hell yeah

[Beluga Whale]

@Master Radishes

 

Whatever else you had planned is not important. Come play mafia. 

[Master Radishes]

I definitely do not have the time for this.

 

In.

[AV.]

I'll leave sign-ups open for about another 6-7 hours, re-adjust the allocation, and then I'll send out PMs  

[Beluga Whale]

@Aladeen

[Aladeen]

1 minute ago, Beluga Whale said:

@Aladeen

[Beluga Whale]

@HashtagNucks you still alive?

[AV.]

Everybody have a look at the roles and set-up.  Please critique.

 

If numbers stay as they are, I'll hand out the roles and start the game in about an hour.

[Beluga Whale]

16 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said:

Everybody have a look at the roles and set-up.  Please critique.

 

If numbers stay as they are, I'll hand out the roles and start the game in about an hour.

Seems pretty fair. 

 

I'm curious about the optimal way to use the JOAT role. My initial impression is that they should only use investigations until they claim, then they save themselves. What are the limits to self-saves? 

[Beluga Whale]

I'd worry about a trigger happy player using the JOAT role to do more harm than good. Sheriff investigations have way more value than a vig kill. The doctor ability would only be appropriate after the JOAT has claimed. 

[Blue Jay 22]

36 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said:

Everybody have a look at the roles and set-up.  Please critique.

 

If numbers stay as they are, I'll hand out the roles and start the game in about an hour.

So the TP special gets to use 1 special ability per round, or at all at once?

[Beluga Whale]

8 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said:

So the TP special gets to use 1 special ability per round, or at all at once?

He said one shot per round, and unlimited shots of each ability. 

[Beluga Whale]

Just now, Beluga Whale said:

He said one shot per round, and unlimited shots of each ability. 

e.g. 

 

R1) Sheriff peek

R2) Sheriff peek

R3) Sheriff peek

R4) Doctor save

[AV.]

28 minutes ago, Beluga Whale said:

Seems pretty fair. 

 

I'm curious about the optimal way to use the JOAT role. My initial impression is that they should only use investigations until they claim, then they save themselves. What are the limits to self-saves? 

 

25 minutes ago, Beluga Whale said:

I'd worry about a trigger happy player using the JOAT role to do more harm than good. Sheriff investigations have way more value than a vig kill. The doctor ability would only be appropriate after the JOAT has claimed. 

A pragmatic JOAT is the best approach for serving the town.  In fact, I'd argue the JOAT should mentally operate as a sheriff and use the killing power only if they've hit mafia and the thread is not privy to who the mafia is.  This obviously implies that the JOAT is not known to anybody and has had the fortune of surviving multiple rounds.

 

Self-saving is only beneficial if the JOAT is pressured to come out with their role.  However, that strategy would only work if the JOAT had not yet investigated or placed a kill on a player in that round.  In other words, it's a bad choice (or impossible choice) in a lot of scenarios.

[AV.]

I'm going to randomize right now  

[Blue Jay 22]

10 minutes ago, Beluga Whale said:

He said one shot per round, and unlimited shots of each ability. 

Seems OP if not killed in round 1.

[Blue Jay 22]

Just now, Blue Jay 22 said:

Seems OP if not killed in round 1.

So make me mafia. I'll kill him myself