Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 44 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Hows the smoke out there ? U ever wonder why are climate is changing or is that a bit too strenous for your brain ? You didn't even respond to anything I said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: I will let Jazzy tackle that question.. So your answer is a maybe....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: You didn't even respond to anything I said. The best place for Alberta's Bitumen is in the ground where it belongs...... boating it across the world for refining makes no sense...... Edited June 1, 2019 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: Horgan is a hypocrite. Like all NDP governments he’s going to lead to economic disaster. He friggin took tolls of the bridges! How in the hell is that justified, when he’s trying to reduce our carbon output? That’s like taking the taxes off cigarettes while increasing advertising that smoking kills. I will give you a +1 because Horgan is the 2nd worst leader in Canada behind Trudeau but I hate taxes so I support removing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: I will give you a +1 because Horgan is the 2nd worst leader in Canada behind Trudeau but I hate taxes so I support removing them. Yes because Canada needs to lower taxes and be more like the USA..... right ? LOL . No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Just now, kingofsurrey said: The best place for Alberta's Bitumen is in the ground where it belongs...... boating it across the world for refining makes no sense...... Well it does make sense. Venezuela is getting premium value for their tar sands and we could do the same while transporting it the safest way possible. This will bring a better quality of life for all Canadians and Canada can not afford for Alberta to be a have not province. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Yes because Canada needs to lower taxes and be more like the USA..... right ? LOL . No thanks. Imagine if we had a resource that made huge money and we could almost double our revenue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Well it does make sense. Venezuela is getting premium value for their tar sands and we could do the same while transporting it the safest way possible. This will bring a better quality of life for all Canadians and Canada can not afford for Alberta to be a have not province. 4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: A few things for you to look at for Venezuela..... https://www.oilsandsmagazine.com/news/2016/2/15/why-venezuela-is-albertas-biggest-competitor 1. Better geography: The Orinoco Petroleum Belt has excellent access to tidewater. And the world's biggest consumer of heavy oil is relatively close-by in the US Gulf Coast, a mere 5 day boat ride. Thanks to proximity to the equator, oil sands deposits in Venezuela are closer to 50°C, much warmer than Alberta's oil sands which tend to average closer to 20°C deep underground and just 5°C close to the surface. That means much less energy is required to bring the oil to a flowing temperature. 2. Simpler geology: Alberta's oil deposit is much older, comprised of a more complex geology, more types of sediments and a wider variety of reservoirs. Venezuelan oil sands is younger, deeper, more uniform, more concentrated and more saturated with a coarser grained sand. This allows for better recovery rates under the same operating conditions. Viscosities in Alberta range from 10,000 cP in the Lloydminster area, 100,000 cP near Cold Lake and 400,000 cP closer to Fort McMurray. Venezuelan heavy oil deposits in contrast have a more uniform viscosity, typically ranging from 4,000 to 5000 cP. Coupled with the warmer climate, that means Venezuelan heavy oil actually flows under ambient conditions, whereas Alberta bitumen is virtually solid at room temperatures. 3. Smaller footprint: Alberta's Athabasca Basin deposit depth ranges from 400 meters below grade to the surface. Anything deeper than 50 meters is very expensive to surface mine while anything shallower than 200 meters is more difficult to recover using pressurized steam, leaving a large portion of the deposit in a "grey" zone. Venezuelan oil sands in contrast range from 350 to 1000 meters below grade, making it completely recoverable in-situ. The reservoirs are also more compact vertically, making well drilling more efficient. Venezuela's Orinoco belt spans an area of 500 km by 50 km (25,000 km²), much less than the footprint of the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin (WCSB), which is approximately 1.4 million km² or even the Athabasca Basin, estimated at 100,000 km². Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Imagine if we had a resource that made huge money and we could almost double our revenue with it. Sounds like Weed .... LOL Preferably if it doesn't lead to global warming though... Edited June 1, 2019 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I will give you a +1 because Horgan is the 2nd worst leader in Canada behind Trudeau but I hate taxes so I support removing them. I don’t like taxes either, and don’t want tolls on bridges. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy in Horgan’s actions. He’s only concerned with staying in power. He doesn’t care one squat about the environment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: I don’t like taxes either, and don’t want tolls on bridges. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy in Horgan’s actions. He’s only concerned with staying in power. He doesn’t care one squat about the environment. Oh absolutely... Like most environmentalists he is a clueless hypocrite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: How is the ndp strength these days in Saskatchewan? Not where it should be, and that's at the fault of everyone. If you're meaning federally: - Federal NDP does squat to work for farmers. Considering the old CCF slogan was "Worker-Farmer-Socialist", you'd think they'd have more kindness to farmers. Keeping the carbon tax while giving farmers less taxes on agricultural activity (so they'd be acknowledged as similar to a small business) - Farmers consider themselves capitalists now and have since the 60s(?), and while the community ethic is still strong and stubborn in Saskatchewan, "small" government and pro-oil, less-tax policy wins big. It's funny, though, because you'll see farming communities act far more socialist than anyone would agree to let on. The nicest highways are around small towns with farms around them. Provincially: - While the Sask Party is probably more guilty of cronyism and corruption than either the current LPC or the Ontario PCs, they're still the catch-all party in Saskatchewan and have enough socialist measures to oust the NDP. They don't do enough to actually make a difference where it counts. - Provincial NDP doesn't do well for themselves, either. Meili seems like a smart guy, but he's openly acknowledged that the Sask NDP is not where they need to be. They're doing an excellent job critiquing and criticizing the Sask Party's governance, but they're pretty much unelectable after electing to pay down the debt as opposed to investing in the province and lowering taxes. Until income inequality becomes bad enough that either the Sask Party moves left or they get voted out, we're stuck with the Sask Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: Oh absolutely... Like most environmentalists he is a clueless hypocrite. Yes, big oil is where its at. Big oil cares about us. Greed is such an ugly emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: Not where it should be, and that's at the fault of everyone. If you're meaning federally: - Federal NDP does squat to work for farmers. Considering the old CCF slogan was "Worker-Farmer-Socialist", you'd think they'd have more kindness to farmers. Keeping the carbon tax while giving farmers less taxes on agricultural activity (so they'd be acknowledged as similar to a small business) - Farmers consider themselves capitalists now and have since the 60s(?), and while the community ethic is still strong and stubborn in Saskatchewan, "small" government and pro-oil, less-tax policy wins big. It's funny, though, because you'll see farming communities act far more socialist than anyone would agree to let on. The nicest highways are around small towns with farms around them. Provincially: - While the Sask Party is probably more guilty of cronyism and corruption than either the current LPC or the Ontario PCs, they're still the catch-all party in Saskatchewan and have enough socialist measures to oust the NDP. They don't do enough to actually make a difference where it counts. - Provincial NDP doesn't do well for themselves, either. Meili seems like a smart guy, but he's openly acknowledged that the Sask NDP is not where they need to be. They're doing an excellent job critiquing and criticizing the Sask Party's governance, but they're pretty much unelectable after electing to pay down the debt as opposed to investing in the province and lowering taxes. Until income inequality becomes bad enough that either the Sask Party moves left or they get voted out, we're stuck with the Sask Party. You guys are lucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Just another normal day in Alberta. Alberta man sings gospel as he watches his home burn in wildfire Fires have forced more than 10,000 people out of their homes in the northern part of the province A helicopter drops a bucket of water on the Chuckegg Creek wildfire west of High Level, Alta., in a Saturday, May 25, 2019, handout photo. (CP) Pudgin Wanuch knew there was nothing he could do as he watched the out-of-control wildfire consume the only home he’d ever known. https://www.abbynews.com/news/alberta-man-sings-gospel-as-he-watches-his-home-burn-in-wildfire/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: You guys are lucky. They are preferable to the UCP, so I'll give them that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: They are preferable to the UCP, so I'll give them that. I would swap leaders in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Just another normal day in Alberta. Alberta man sings gospel as he watches his home burn in wildfire Fires have forced more than 10,000 people out of their homes in the northern part of the province A helicopter drops a bucket of water on the Chuckegg Creek wildfire west of High Level, Alta., in a Saturday, May 25, 2019, handout photo. (CP) Pudgin Wanuch knew there was nothing he could do as he watched the out-of-control wildfire consume the only home he’d ever known. https://www.abbynews.com/news/alberta-man-sings-gospel-as-he-watches-his-home-burn-in-wildfire/ I think you better research fires in Kelowna, Penticton, Barrier, Lillooet, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: I think you better research fires in Kelowna, Penticton, Barrier, Lillooet, etc All started by alberta obviously 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam13371337 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 jaghmeet and Trudeau can tax everyone to death. and it wouldn't be a drop in the ocean. why are there idiots still alive that believe the governments 1 stop solution to every problem is..... more taxes!!!!? how gullible and stupid can the human species get? if global warming is the earth ending issue, then squeezing more taxes out of Canadians is not the solution. You boycott, blockade, sanction, or outright declare war on countries like china and india whos farts in the air create more pollution then all of Canada put together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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