[Speculation] Canucks all in for Jason Zucker

[HKSR]

6 minutes ago, 250Integra said:

Hutton + Gaudette + 2nd round pick 2019

Oh whatever... Ballard + Raymond + 1st

[48MPHSlapShot]

I won't lie, it worries me giving up significant young assets for a 27 year old winger when we're still a rebuilding team. Maybe on the tail end of it now, but still.

[grandmaster]

Boeser will not be traded. JB recently named him as one of the untouchables.

 

We also won’t be giving up our 10th pick. The draft is here and that would not look good unless it was for a famous brother with a last name of Hughes. 

 

I doubt this happens. 

[mll]

5 minutes ago, D-Money said:

Normally I'd be concerned about how badly Minnesota wants to get rid of Zucker. First he was rumoured to be traded to Calgary at the deadline, but the deal was sent in seconds too late, so it was denied. Then he was supposedly in the Kessel deal that Phil wouldn't waive for. And now, he's right back out in the rumour mill.

 

However, the Wild are giving away a lot of good players lately - Niederreiter, Coyle, Granlund. I wouldn't mind getting a ride on that horse before it leaves town.

Leopold wants to win a Cup.  He doesn't just want to make the playoffs.  They struggled to produce in the post-season.  

From 2016 to 2018 - all 1st round exits.  In 16 playoff games:

Zucker 3pts - 1 goal

Coyle 4pts

Niederreiter 7pts

Granlund 8pts

 

Moving the players makes sense.  The returns have been questionable though. He can't miss on Zucker.

[grandmaster]

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Edited June 5, 2019 by grandmaster

[Mathew Barzal]

36 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

If the Canucks were all in he would have been traded for Boeser. So I call BS. TSN struggles to be relevant. 

I mean, going all in and avoiding career suicide decisions don't have to be mutually exclusive.

Edited June 5, 2019 by Mathew Barzal

[Canucks Curse]

I do not get nervous when we talk about JB drafting (like I did with gillis, nonis, burke) but I do get nervous when JB is involved in trade rumours

[grandmaster]

3 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:

I do not get nervous when we talk about JB drafting (like I did with gillis, nonis, burke) but I do get nervous when JB is involved in trade rumours

I say more so with FA signings. Eriksson was definitely one of the worst ones ever and wasn’t too thrilled about the 3 third/fourth liners be signed last year.

Edited June 5, 2019 by grandmaster

[erkayloomeh]

Why is Minny so anxious to get rid of Zucker ?

[Screw]

Passsssssssss

[EP Phone Home]

8 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

I won't lie, it worries me giving up significant young assets for a 27 year old winger when we're still a rebuilding team. Maybe on the tail end of it now, but still.

With one year remaining to UFA status too. l have Matt Duchene vibes all over this one if you can’t guarantee an extension with the trade. And you can’t offer an extension until July 1st. So it worries me as well as long as he only has one year left before going wherever he wants. Hard to justify losing some key pieces/picks for a potential rental. 

[JM_]

So I guess it would be one of Pearson or Baer plus other assets going back the other way? Not sure how this works otherwise. 

[mll]

1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

So I guess it would be one of Pearson or Baer plus other assets going back the other way? Not sure how this works otherwise. 

Their top-9 is full of left shots - only Kunin is a right shot.  They seem to be targeting right shot goal scorers.  They want scoring.

[Down by the River]

37 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said:

Virtanen + Juolevi + 10 for Zucker.  Book it.

 

This won't end like y'all think it will end.

Imagine spending this much of your life going through threads to make multiple posts to $&!# on a GM about things that aren't actually going to happen. 

 

EDIT: Also, the thread title is misleading since nowhere in the tweet was there an indication that the Canucks were all in. 

Edited June 5, 2019 by Down by the River

[JM_]

Just now, mll said:

Their top-9 is full of left shots - only Kunin is a right shot.  They seem to be targeting right shot goal scorers.  They want scoring.

ah OK. So does that mean some sort of deal built around Virtanen then? I realize he's not enough on his own and there would have to be a serious addition, just not sure what. 

[The Vancouver Connection]

Zucker sucks

[aGENT]

Baer + Goldobin or they can pound sand.

[D-Money]

40 minutes ago, 250Integra said:

Hutton + Gaudette + 2nd round pick 2019

I'd do Hutton + Gaudette, but that 2nd is too high to also include.

[AV.]

7 minutes ago, Down by the River said:

Imagine spending this much of your life going through threads to make multiple posts to $&!# on a GM about things that aren't actually going to happen. 

 

EDIT: Also, the thread title is misleading since nowhere in the tweet was there an indication that the Canucks were all in. 

Take a look at the rumours.

 

Zaitsev, Zucker, Gardiner, Myers...do any of these players excite you?  Do any of these players fit what a rebuilding team should be looking at doing?

 

Jim. Benning. Is. Desperate. To. Save. His. Job.

 

You and all the other people need to accept reality.

[Drive-By Body Pierce]

LATEST CANUCKS SPECULATION

VANCOUVER SUN: Ben Kuzma suggests the Canucks might have to package some players to land a top-six forward via the trade market. The Minnesota Wild reportedly offered up winger Jason Zucker but their asking price (budding star Brock Boeser) was rejected. GM Jim Benning said he intends to add support for his promising young players like Boeser. 

Outside of Boeser, Elias Pettersson, Bo Horvat, and Quinn Hughes, the Canucks lack sufficient assets to make a one-for-one trade for significant help. Kuzma suggests a package deal of winger Jake Virtanen and defenseman Ben Hutton might draw some interest.

Kuzma’s colleague Patrick Johnston cited a report by TSN’s Pierre LeBrun indicating the Canucks had interest in Marcus Johansson at the trade deadline. The Boston Bruins subsequently acquired Johansson from the Washington Capitals. Given Johansson’s solid postseason performance, Johnston wonders if Benning will take a run at him again via free agency.

Johnston also noted Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman report claiming the Canucks are at an impasse with pending UFA defenseman Alex Edler. A no-movement clause could be the sticking point in negotiations. He also noted a report claiming the Canucks contacted the Toronto Maple Leafs regarding blueliner Nikita Zaitsev. Johnston doesn’t believe Zaitsev would improve Vancouver’s blueline. 

SPORTSNET’s Rick Dhaliwal took to Twitter citing sources from the recent NHL Draft combine claiming the Canucks will pursue Winnipeg’s Tyler Myers or Toronto’s Jake Gardiner via free agency.   

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Canucks aren’t moving Boeser, Pettersson, Horvat or Hughes. As Kuzma points out, they’re the core Benning intends to build around. Theyalso own the 10th overall pick in the upcoming NHL Draft in Vancouver but Benning seems keen to retain it.

Maybe Benning can find a decent return for that suggested package of Virtanen and Hutton. I think he’ll have better luck targeting clubs looking to shed salary via trades this summer. Cap Friendly indicates the Canucks have $52.4 million invested in 20 players for 2019-20. Even by re-signing Edler and Boeser, they’ll have plenty of room to take on a significant player or two if ownership is willing to do so.

After being burned by the disastrous Loui Eriksson contract in 2016, Benning could be reluctant to spend big in the UFA market. Targeting cap-strapped teams could land them a good, reasonably priced players. I agree with Johnston that the Canucks should pass on Zaitsev, but how about seeing if a forward like Kasperi Kapanen or Andreas Johnsson is available?