WHL rocks Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, billabong said: My god...skinner is a 9 MILLION dollar winger?! Sure hes scored a couple goals but he faded away when buffalo needed him down the stretch and he’s had a concussion history Kucherov is getting 9.5m (state tax is a factor) and he’s a dominant 100+ point player couture is at 8m and he’s been clutch in the ploffs Kane is at 10.5m and he’s a first ballot hall of famer, scoring titles and all the hardware. That’s only worth 1.5m than skinner at 9m? Percentage of salary cap comes into play Cap is much higher now than when those deals were signed.. But imo Skinner got overpaid. Money and term both. He scored 40 in a contract year playing with Eichel. But only 23 assists and doesnt have great two way game. Edited June 8, 2019 by WHL rocks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Guess this kills any cheap deal for Boeser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 It is official now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Guess this kills any cheap deal for Boeser. UFA vs RFA Big difference. Boeser likely comes in at around 7 mill for 6 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: It is official now. Same club that signed Erhoff to that stupid contract and then had to buy him out. This contract will be almost as bad. That's brutal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, rekker said: That's a lot for a guy who just careered it. I think it's too much. That's gonna be a nightmare of a contract in 4 years. Maybe even sooner. That's how free agency works though. I was hoping we'd be in on Skinner but even 7 x $9M is a very risky contract on our end. The fact that Buffalo gave the extra year, I guess that's what they had to do but YIKES. I'd much rather throw $11M x 7 to Panarin. Edited June 8, 2019 by VIC_CITY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 This is laughable. What the hell are the Sabres doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: This is laughable. What the hell are the Sabres doing? Loui's contract doesn't look so bad now does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dombrova22 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Absolutely atrocious contract. Don't care what anyone says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: Percentage of salary cap comes into play Cap is much higher now than when those deals were signed.. But imo Skinner got overpaid. Money and term both. He scored 40 in a contract year playing with Eichel. But only 23 assists and doesnt have great two way game. Buf isn’t a big market that can spend to the cap every year like CHI, TB, TOR, VAN or NYR so in terms of an “internal cap” this is a good junk of change eichel at 10m + skinner at 9m = 19m for the next 8 years + whatever dahlin gets buf is gonna regret it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, billabong said: Buf isn’t a big market that can spend to the cap every year like CHI, TB, TOR, VAN or NYR so in terms of an “internal cap” this is a good junk of change eichel at 10m + skinner at 9m = 19m for the next 8 years + whatever dahlin gets buf is gonna regret it Terry Pegula owns the sabres and NFL Bills. He's not afraid to spend money. Follows the team closely and wants to win a Cup. He'll spend to Cap max when needed. He's said and shown that he will spend money.. Obviously a small market but they're gonna try to win a Cup.. when Dahlin fully develops they'll be scary good. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, billabong said: Buf isn’t a big market that can spend to the cap every year like CHI, TB, TOR, VAN or NYR so in terms of an “internal cap” this is a good junk of change eichel at 10m + skinner at 9m = 19m for the next 8 years + whatever dahlin gets buf is gonna regret it You're right, but you have to make that deal if you're in that position. They've lost for so long and I bet some of those guys in that locker room are paying close attention to their former teammate ROR, who is potentially 24 hours away from hoisting the Stanley Cup. They needed to re-sign Skinner, they owed it to their fan base. Plus, most GMs don't last 8 years anyways. So we should probably prepare ourselves for what JB is going to try to do come July 1st... Edited June 8, 2019 by VIC_CITY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) Skinner had the 5th most even strength goals in the entire league, so it isn’t like he is just feasting off prime power play time. If this is overpaying him, it isn’t by too much based on last year’s performances. The worry is that it was a career total for him and may not be his regular output. The bigger worry needs to be term. At 8 years the AAV should have dropped, as you can’t expect him to be that productive well into his 30’s. GMs have actually been pretty good for a couple years not burying themselves into long term deals except for true superstars. This year might be reverting back to the norm as lots of teams are competing for the same few guys. Edited June 8, 2019 by Provost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 We now know that the Canucks and Boeser will settle on 4 x 7.5M contract, give or take 500k on either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, naslund.is.king said: Wheres our expert? @SabreFan1 Overpayment for a player who is highly dependent on having a good centreman and who doesn't generate supplementary offence (low assist totals). $9 million/season contracts should be reserved for players who make others around him better. That said, it's tough to blame Botterill for acquiescing. The Sabres can't keep bleeding away talent if they ever want to make the playoffs again any time soon. They are a top heavy team that is going to have to build the bottom half of the roster with younger and cheaper players now. Reinhart's bridge deal is up after this season so he's going to need to get paid as well. Fortunately Sobotka and Sheary come off of the books after this season. The only albatross contract after that will be Okposo's. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Career minus player. 40 goals this year and couldn't finish on the plus. What a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Oh man, that's a bitch of a contract. It's bull$&!# like this that causes lockouts and painfully long CBA negotiations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, Alflives said: This is laughable. What the hell are the Sabres doing? What other options do they have? It's a top-heavy team. They've already hemorrhaged top talent away by trading ROR and Kane. You can't keep losing your top guys and expect to get better. Is he worth 9 million? No. He's worth about 7.5 million. Skinner's agent knew that the Sabres had no choice but to pay the extra 1 yr./1.5 million premium. I'd imagine that the Sabres will likely trade him away in 3 or 4 seasons once the team is competitive again. I don't think his play will drop in that span of time and by then 9 million contracts will be more normal than they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Loui's contract doesn't look so bad now does it? Yes it does. Right on par with Okposo's terrible contract.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, billabong said: Buf isn’t a big market that can spend to the cap every year like CHI, TB, TOR, VAN or NYR so in terms of an “internal cap” this is a good junk of change eichel at 10m + skinner at 9m = 19m for the next 8 years + whatever dahlin gets buf is gonna regret it The Pegulas are worth 4.5 Billion dollars and spend money like crazy. There's no "internal cap". The first thing he said when he bought the Sabres was that he wasn't in it for the money and that if he wanted to make more money, he'd drill more oil wells on the vast tracts of shale land that he owns. The Pegulas spend money like crazy. On a whim, they dropped over $100 million on Penn State so they could have their own Div. 1 hockey team along with a new arena. They built the Harborcenter out of their own pockets for over $200 million and counting so they could develop the downtown area which they sunk millions more into. The Sabres were on a shoestring budget when Galisano owned them. After the Pegulas bought the team, they opened the chequebook wide. To be honest, that was what accelerated the Sabres' downfall. He gave free reign in spending to a terrible GM like Darcy Regier who went out and got players like Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff among others who flopped hard and the team has yet to recover from it. Edited June 8, 2019 by SabreFan1 Updated Harborcenter cost. Double checked and at last count it has already had over $220 million put into it and the surrounding area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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