Alflives Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Just now, Ryan Strome said: Wow so many lefties oblivious to debt. Conveniently all the European countries faced with massive debt and massive cuts were run by far left governments. Lefties like debt, because they are the ones collecting the hand outs that make the debt. This plastics idea is just another vote grab. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, inane said: and? This whole 'other people do it so why don't we' line of thinking is so lazy. Race to the bottom. Pretty much explains you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: sorry for the further derailing from the plastic issue but I can't help it. @Ryan Strome you can't even call Trudeau a tax and spend liberal anymore Is Trudeau a 'tax-and-spend' Liberal? The numbers say no https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-taxes-harper-budget-1.5164976 Reality says yes. Just not as bad as the ndp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Pretty much explains you. So what do you think about the actual thread topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 95% of all plastics in the oceans comes from just 10 Rivers: Yangtze River, Yellow Sea, Asia Indus River, Arabian Sea, Asia Yellow River (Huang He), Yellow Sea, Asia Hai River, Yellow Sea, Asia Nile, Mediterranean Sea, Africa Meghna/Bramaputra/Ganges, Bay of Bengal, Asia Pearl River (Zhujiang), South China Sea, Asia Amur River (Heilong Jiang), Sea of Okhotsk, Asia Niger River, Gulf of Guinea, Africa Mekong River, South China Sea, Asia I am all for banning plastics but the reality is that it won't do much good unless we get these other countries educated and on board Indonesia: Spoiler Guatemala: Spoiler India: Spoiler Amazon: Spoiler Haiti: Spoiler Philippines: Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Lefties like debt, because they are the ones collecting the hand outs that make the debt. This plastics idea is just another vote grab. Some people think money is everything and others think that there is more to life then that. That is the main reason for most of the worlds problems today. The problems are almost always linked to someone's GREED for money. Me? I prefer things like clean, breathable air, clean drinkable water, family, health, you know, stuff like that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Aladeen said: 95% of all plastics in the oceans comes from just 10 Rivers: Yangtze River, Yellow Sea, Asia Indus River, Arabian Sea, Asia Yellow River (Huang He), Yellow Sea, Asia Hai River, Yellow Sea, Asia Nile, Mediterranean Sea, Africa Meghna/Bramaputra/Ganges, Bay of Bengal, Asia Pearl River (Zhujiang), South China Sea, Asia Amur River (Heilong Jiang), Sea of Okhotsk, Asia Niger River, Gulf of Guinea, Africa Mekong River, South China Sea, Asia I am all for banning plastics but the reality is that it won't do much good unless we get these other countries educated and on board Indonesia: Hide contents Guatemala: Hide contents India: Reveal hidden contents Amazon: Reveal hidden contents Haiti: Reveal hidden contents Philippines: Reveal hidden contents I agree but the other thing we can do is reduce the demand for the product. No one to sell to, no reason to produce it. It has to start somewhere, for all of our kids sake and the sake of all we cherish on this earth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 This a vote grab, a smart one at that. Very hot global issue right now and for good reason. If this thread is any indication, I will continue to believe we are among the last few generations of advanced humans on this planet. It will be nice, the few that survive will recess back to the caves while mother nature gives herself a good shake off from the foul humans that once gave her cancer. I'm starting to listen to Alf, we should try to stay on top for as long as we can before the inevitable end... Smok'em if ya got'em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 About time. Should ban those damned clamshell plastic containers everything comes in and non biodegradable food packaging. Styrofoam needs to be a thing of the past as well. We know better and have for decades. Stop always doing what is convenient for business in an era where the people in the c-suites are paying out record setting bonuses and salaries. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I agree but the other thing we can do is reduce the demand for the product. No one to sell to, no reason to produce it. It has to start somewhere, for all of our kids sake and the sake of all we cherish on this earth. No doubt every little bit helps but we are at a point where we are going to have to go straight to the root cause and there needs to be huge punishments for the offenders, like those guys dumping the plastics into the Amazon saying that they do 3 or 4 dump trucks full per day. Time is no longer on our side when it comes to this. The governments of the world need to get together and hold the major polluters accountable with over the top punishments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: Ya the cardboard straws are not a good alternative, I would almost rather say goodbye to the sea turtles than have to drink my root beer through a soggy piece of paper for the rest of my life. I really hate this comment on so many levels. Joking or not, this sense of entitlement without any regard for other living creatures really isn't amusing. Did you learn to drink from a cup? There are even convenient sippy cups if you're struggling. I sense sarcasm...I truly hope so. 2 hours ago, RonMexico said: Part of the solution shouldn't just be banning these products, Canada fails at recycling them too. Recycling in Canada is a joke. https://globalnews.ca/news/5199883/canada-recycling-programs/ All of it needs attention. I was shocked to learn that we bundle and ship our crap out and that most is coming back to us. I really thought it was broken down and reused as other products. This world disappoints me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: This a vote grab, a smart one at that. Very hot global issue right now and for good reason. If this thread is any indication, I will continue to believe we are among the last few generations of advanced humans on this planet. It will be nice, the few that survive will recess back to the caves while mother nature gives herself a good shake off from the foul humans that once gave her cancer. I'm starting to listen to Alf, we should try to stay on top for as long as we can before the inevitable end... Smok'em if ya got'em. Depends on what you mean by "smart". It could easily work politically, satisfying his base. And it can be smart in practice, depending on its actual implementation. If Scheer's comment is accurate, the plan is not clear yet, so for now it sounds like political news only. Plastic bans in the US and in some other countries have struggled to meet respectable achievements, as other plastic consumption has increased as a result (people who were using "single use" grocery bags for light trash collection move to heavier "legal" trash bags, and "single-use" paper consumption rises. If it makes sense, great, because we do have a consumption problem that needs addressing. I just hope you (Canada) can learn from others' mistakes and implement it more successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: I think the "head in the sand" concept is the best way to deal with world pollution. Do the best you can on an individual level, and think (in your heart) that what you are doing makes a difference. Reality is what we do here in Canada, will not make any impact at all around the world. So, put your head in the sand, and enjoy the bliss of ignorance. (not you specifically King. You is just anyone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think the "head in the sand" concept is the best way to deal with world pollution. Do the best you can on an individual level, and think (in your heart) that what you are doing makes a difference. Reality is what we do here in Canada, will not make any impact at all around the world. So, put your head in the sand, and enjoy the bliss of ignorance. (not you specifically King. You is just anyone) Completely agree and dont see why this is not part of the SJW thread. I mean who the f&*k cares really... let future generations pay for it, with money or their lives, either way, who cares! /s 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: I think the "head in the sand" concept is the best way to deal with world pollution. Do the best you can on an individual level, and think (in your heart) that what you are doing makes a difference. Reality is what we do here in Canada, will not make any impact at all around the world. So, put your head in the sand, and enjoy the bliss of ignorance. (not you specifically King. You is just anyone) This whole 'what we do won't immediately solve the problem so why bother doing it' line of thinking is so lazy and has been proven incorrect repeatedly over history. How do you think the women's right to vote came to be? gay rights? banning DDT, ending slavery, mandatory seatbelts, etc etc etc. Any and all of those started with small groups of people advocating for something and growing it into something larger. You guys are so weird how you just expect huge change to just drop out of the sky and if it doesn't you're all 'meh China isn't doing it right now so why should we'. lol grow up. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think the "head in the sand" concept is the best way to deal with world pollution. Do the best you can on an individual level, and think (in your heart) that what you are doing makes a difference. Reality is what we do here in Canada, will not make any impact at all around the world. So, put your head in the sand, and enjoy the bliss of ignorance. (not you specifically King. You is just anyone) All our actions or inactions do make a difference Alf. But you are right...... the biggest differences will be made in other more populated countries.... Still we need to model of change. If we can start to invent new ways to live here... maybe our ideas can be adapted in other countries... Be the change you want to see Alf.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, inane said: This whole 'what we do won't immediately solve the problem so why bother doing it' line of thinking is so lazy and has been proven incorrect repeatedly over history. How do you think the women's right to vote came to be? gay rights? banning DDT, ending slavery, mandatory seatbelts, etc etc etc. Any and all of those started with small groups of people advocating for something and growing it into something larger. You guys are so weird how you just expect huge change to just drop out of the sky and if it doesn't you're all 'meh China isn't doing it right now so why should we'. lol grow up. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Again thank you for the insult. Mother Teresa once begging for money for her children stricken with leprosy came to a very wealthy man. She asked for money and he spit in her hand. Mother Teresa said "thank, that's for me. Now may I have money for the children?" We cannot change the world. Accept the truth. Do what makes you feel like you're doing something positive. But you're burying your head in the sand if you think it's making a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Again thank you for the insult. Mother Teresa once begging for money for her children stricken with leprosy came to a very wealthy man. She asked for money and he spit in her hand. Mother Teresa said "thank, that's for me. Now may I have money for the children?" We cannot change the world. Accept the truth. Do what makes you feel like you're doing something positive. But you're burying your head in the sand if you think it's making a difference. This, just a few posts after saying Lefties "are collecting hand outs"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 If this goes through I am going to constantly litter out of spite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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