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1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said:

 

Just some random thoughts these quotes brought up

 

1. When against his peers he shows well (11 pts in 5 games)

2. He was a 1 1/2 younger than most on the ice, and looked very strong in puck handling and skating

3. I think he looks to be a much better puck handler and skater than BO, already

4. He is only a shadow of what he will be when fully mature...…..(Like everyone else, 24 year old Pod would beat up 18 year old pod) just saying

 

Just remember his draft bio where they said he was one of only a few that could play in the NHL now...….I think he will be fine

IMO, he was dominant against older competition

I meant it as a high compliment

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39 minutes ago, knucklehead91 said:

Dude this kid is sick. He may not have been on the scoreboard, but I dont think that it was his lack of ability to finish that kept him off the score sheet like some posters seem to worry about. He set up a half dozen grade A scoring chances that his linemates couldnt finish. He has some excellent vision and awareness. Give him a couple studs who can bury and this kid will kill it

Yep. Not worried at all after those highlights. Nothing wrong with his skating, passing, vision and we didnt see it but his shot is elite I hear.

 

Perfect type of player for our top line with Pete and Bess. Basically better version, potentially, of Bo Horvat as a winger.

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1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

If he figures out how to finish consistently he could be a scary player.

 

Love his dog-on-a-bone mentality.

That was pretty much the one thing that kept him out of a top 3 spot, aside from the russian factor/contract situation.

He could be another high value pick like Hughes was.

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1 hour ago, knucklehead91 said:

Dude this kid is sick. He may not have been on the scoreboard, but I dont think that it was his lack of ability to finish that kept him off the score sheet like some posters seem to worry about. He set up a half dozen grade A scoring chances that his linemates couldnt finish. He has some excellent vision and awareness. Give him a couple studs who can bury and this kid will kill it

His playmaking ability was definitely on full display.

 

However he does have room to grow in his ability to finish. He knows how to get the puck to the net consistently which is great. It’s putting that finishing move on the goalie that he needs to refine.

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12 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Love his dog-on-a-bone mentality.

Honestly don't know how he didn't seem to be drawing more penalties on some of those plays. At least I didn't see any zebra arms going up in those highlights :lol:

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At this stage, Vasily does not exhibit an exceptional level of pure talent. Cole Caufield was available at the 10th spot and his ceiling is clearly much much higher than Vasily. It is clear that either Vancouver management was not convinced that Cole is likely to flourish in the NHL or that Vasily's NHL career would be comparable to Cole in terms of overall contribution to the team. It is very questionable whether Vasily's overall package would be effective in the NHL as a top 6 forward. NHL has big D with lots of skill as well as defensive aware forwards. What would be Vasily's ceiling in the NHL? Is he merely a third line player? Will he suffer the same challenges in his development as Jake Virtanen? OTH, Cole is gonna face NHL calibre goalies who would have access to indepth research and breakdowns on his shot tenancies. NHL D would not allow Cole to get anywhere near his favourite shooting areas. Can he still snipe away in the NHL? Is he a defensive liability in the NHL? Reid Boucher is 5'10''. He scored 30 goals in the AHL. He is still not a NHL player. 

 

Both Vasily and Cole have their doubters. It would be interesting to see whether they would dominate in the NHL despite their shortcomings. Vasily is pretty much a plug and play NHL player in terms of his defensive and physical game. He is guaranteed to be at least a bottom 6 forward. He needs to demonstrate more skill and significantly better stats in the KHL. I hope he becomes the next Alexander Radulov.

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4 minutes ago, Maddogy said:

At this stage, Vasily does not exhibit an exceptional level of pure talent. Cole Caufield was available at the 10th spot and his ceiling is clearly much much higher than Vasily. It is clear that either Vancouver management was not convinced that Cole is likely to flourish in the NHL or that Vasily's NHL career would be comparable to Cole in terms of overall contribution to the team. It is very questionable whether Vasily's overall package would be effective in the NHL as a top 6 forward. NHL has big D with lots of skill as well as defensive aware forwards. What would be Vasily's ceiling in the NHL? Is he merely a third line player? Will he suffer the same challenges in his development as Jake Virtanen? OTH, Cole is gonna face NHL calibre goalies who would have access to indepth research and breakdowns on his shot tenancies. NHL D would not allow Cole to get anywhere near his favourite shooting areas. Can he still snipe away in the NHL? Is he a defensive liability in the NHL?

 

 

Both Vasily and Cole have their doubters. It would be interesting to see whether they would dominate in the NHL despite their shortcomings. 

I would say Podkolzin has a higher floor based on his style of play, so he will make the NHL in some capacity or another whereas Caulfield likely is one of those top 6 or bust type guys.

 

Caulfield has higher scoring potential, but I think he also needs a good linemate to be effective. Podkolzin has a more rounded game and has NHL size. If he adds offense as well, then it's a no brainer. Maybe Caulfield is a perennial 30-35 goal scorer and Podkolzin is a 20-25 goal, 60 point guy, but you have to consider all the other attributes as well. Podkolzin can PK and play with an edge, plus is being groomed to be a leader.

 

There's just a much higher bust potential with Caulfield. Don't think he even adds enough to our lineup if we took that home run swing and connected (another smallish top 6 forward), so it wasn't worth the gamble. It helps that we found another talented forward falling into our laps with Hoglander for hindsight too with the same risk-reward.

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4 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said:

What I really like about this pick is Benning's role in it.  There were very good players that could have been of more immediate help available when we picked.  Benning's contract was a burning fuse, but he took the player available with the highest ceiling - that takes integrity to do the right thing in trying circumstances.  I have enormous respect for that.  I think we got a huge 'not for two years' bonus - we were willing to wait, and that gave us the chance to get what may turn out to be a very special player at 10.

Who?

 

Scouts said Podz was once of the most NHL ready prospects in the draft. And it is only two years until his KHL contract is done. Most prospects take at least that much time. So who would have been of more immediate help on the big team? 

 

I don't see anyone getting picked at 10 that fits that thought.

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Can't wait to see this kid live!  We got another steal.  Great at gaining the zone and generating chances; his playmaking would look nice on Bo's line.  Excellent hockey sense and positioning, he is able to exit the zone quickly with odd-man rushes without sacrificing defensively.  Love how calm he was under pressure at the 1 minute mark there on the forecheck.  Outstanding shift forechecking from 9:20-10:00.  Just look at him fighting off multiple defenders and still get the puck.  Shot block look like it hurt a ton but he had no fear at all.  Impressive he took another shift after.

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On 8/25/2019 at 9:57 PM, knucklehead91 said:

Dude this kid is sick. He may not have been on the scoreboard, but I dont think that it was his lack of ability to finish that kept him off the score sheet like some posters seem to worry about. He set up a half dozen grade A scoring chances that his linemates couldnt finish. He has some excellent vision and awareness. Give him a couple studs who can bury and this kid will kill it

 

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