cyoung Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Not hating Podkolzin but he was one of two Russians I spotted who took off their silver medal. He wanted gold. It's whatever, I honestly like guys who just want to win. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 50 minutes ago, MikeyD said: Lack of IQ, he forces the play too much. He deserves more points but he certainly wasn't taking over. So many people here are really trying their best to hold the rose coloured glasses to their faces. He's a long way of being a benefit for us as a skill player. He puts his teammates into bad positions with his passes in the neutral zone, has a lot of turnovers on the cycle and ultimately doesn't think the game well (yet) when checked heavily. He'll get there but he definitely isn't there yet. He wasn't dominant in the tournament (rather invisible if we compare him to some other more prominent Russians). He's young, still has lots of time but he has the tools he just needs to figure out how to use them. His foreechecking is fantastic though and his board play is great for his age. He's hit and miss with his passing/timing but he can figure that out. We'll see eventually if things click but right now he's gonna be more of a checker than a skill guy. I wouldn't say he lacks IQ, I'd say his skillset is raw/unfinished. He needs a few years of fine tuning, you did hit the nail on the head though. Despite certain obvious struggles, he was an impact player which should inspire a ton of optimism. We are gonna have some imposing wingers in a few years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzuto&hatoum Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just needs a skills coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Not hating Podkolzin but he was one of two Russians I spotted who took off their silver medal. That game was botched by horrible refereeing, I’d be reluctant to even wear the gold. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRocket18 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 For the small amount of time I watched the russians, Morozov impressed me the most. Romanov too... Podz was less impressive than I had hoped for, but give him a year.... wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Sounds like Jake, may need a lot of seasoning and patience to fit him in a dominant bottom 6 role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WHL rocks Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) According to JB Podz is ready to step in and play on Canucks right now. He said Podz will be signed end of his KHL contract after next season and play in the NHL directly. Remember he's only 18. He said Hogz is ahead of schedule in his development https://www.google.com/amp/s/theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/ed-willes-musings-signing-jacob-markstrom-to-a-new-deal-should-be-canucks-top-priority/amp • Vasili Podkolzin, the Canucks first-rounder from this summer, has another season on his deal in Russia but Jim Benning has a pretty good idea of where he’ll be playing the year after that. “We’ll sign him and he’ll step right in and play,” the Canucks’ GM said. “He could play right now.” Podkolzin played a feature rule for Russia at the WJC, finishing with a goal and five points in seven games. The best part? He’s still only 18. And here’s Benning on Nils Hoglander, the 19-year-old who led Sweden with 11 points in seven games at the WJC: “He’s ahead of schedule.” Edited January 6, 2020 by WHL rocks 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, SilentSam said: That game was botched by horrible refereeing, I’d be reluctant to even wear the gold. Ya I think refs took the shine off the gold medal. If that happened to team Canada id boycott watching the tournament next year.. We'd be going crazy right now including the media .. Edited January 6, 2020 by WHL rocks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, SilentSam said: That game was botched by horrible refereeing, I’d be reluctant to even wear the gold. Players can only play in the situation they are given. What happened with the Refs is on the Refs and the IIHF. Canada did what they had to to win and should celebrate openly with the joy they deserve. Certainly it seems fair that this would haunt the Russian players, especially after destroying Canada in prelims and carrying most of this game. That a couple of the Russian players took the medals off is not unreasonable. At least they weren't throwing them in the crowd. Silver is the hardest medal to win in these types of tournaments, you just don't see the success, you feel the loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, WHL rocks said: Ya I think refs took the shine off the gold medal. If that happened to team Canada id boycott watching the tournament next year.. We'd be going crazy right now including the media .. The Canadian players didn't seem to mind. It is an accomplishment and thrill of a lifetime as could be seen by their excitement after fighting back hard and winning. Yea reffing sucked. But they did fight back to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: Silver is the hardest medal to win in these types of tournaments, you just don't see the success, you feel the loss. Gold imo is the hardest to win. But Silver is likely, as perhaps you're indicating, often the most bitter to end up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, MikeyD said: Lack of IQ, he forces the play too much. He deserves more points but he certainly wasn't taking over. So many people here are really trying their best to hold the rose coloured glasses to their faces. He's a long way of being a benefit for us as a skill player. He puts his teammates into bad positions with his passes in the neutral zone, has a lot of turnovers on the cycle and ultimately doesn't think the game well (yet) when checked heavily. He'll get there but he definitely isn't there yet. He wasn't dominant in the tournament (rather invisible if we compare him to some other more prominent Russians). He's young, still has lots of time but he has the tools he just needs to figure out how to use them. His foreechecking is fantastic though and his board play is great for his age. He's hit and miss with his passing/timing but he can figure that out. We'll see eventually if things click but right now he's gonna be more of a checker than a skill guy. Lack of IQ? Not sure what tournament you were watching. His iq and ability to see the play develop was one of his biggest strengths and biggest surprises for me. He made some unreal plays........Petey level plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, WHL rocks said: Ya I think refs took the shine off the gold medal. If that happened to team Canada id boycott watching the tournament next year.. We'd be going crazy right now including the media .. Not even remotely........all teams benefit from calls and all teams feel the sting. That's hockey. A minute before the camera play a Russian slashes the stick out of a Canadians hand, in the Russian zone, allowing them to turn the play up ice and attack. If the ref makes that call it's game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Sounds like Jake, may need a lot of seasoning and patience to fit him in a dominant bottom 6 role. Pods is actually the opposite of Jake. He’s closer to Matt Tkatchuk. Minus the puke part. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, Alflives said: Pods is actually the opposite of Jake. He’s closer to Matt Tkatchuk. Minus the puke part. I hope someone does an analysis of scoring chances created, if Podz isn't in the top 3 of that list I'd be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, SilentSam said: That game was botched by horrible refereeing, I’d be reluctant to even wear the gold. Good thing you don't have to then 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I hope someone does an analysis of scoring chances created, if Podz isn't in the top 3 of that list I'd be surprised. I don't actually watch Podz play and rely on those who actually do for updates but what seems to be so common in those updates is how many grade A set ups his linemates miss and people complain about lack of IQ and production. I get the impression that if he had linemates who had better finish he would have much more appealing stats. He sounds more like a playmaker than a goal scorer which is fine because we have lots of shooters and potentially hogs on the way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyndall2 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Refs in almost all sports make decisions on split second action. We have been dumping on NHL, NFL, MLB umps, etc for years. Yes, there were some sketchy calls throughout the whole Jr. tournament. Would have NHL refs there result in any better decisions? Just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Lamora Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Clearly some folks saw Pods tournament differently than me and some others...who may have been expecting more “bull in a china shop” Pods than the somewhat restrained play that jumped out at me. I readily admit that the coach may have had a lot to do with not taking the shackles off him. His play seemed to err more on defensive prudence than offensive thrust to me. A whole bunch of Russians looked more dangerous offensively. “But he’s so young still!” I’ve heard it said. To that I would respond with “Lafreniere”. Is any of this really significant though? Probably not. Schoeder and Hodgson had monster tourneys. Bo struggled in his WJC. I thought that Quinn Hughes in his last world juniors was just ok. Look at these two Canuck pillars now...my god. So....any conclusions drawn from this tournament are likely pretty dumb. Cant wait till Pod arrives. Hope it’s sooner than we think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Tyndall2 said: Refs in almost all sports make decisions on split second action. We have been dumping on NHL, NFL, MLB umps, etc for years. Yes, there were some sketchy calls throughout the whole Jr. tournament. Would have NHL refs there result in any better decisions? Just asking. It's no easy feat reffing a fast and fierce game like hockey. The NHL is the fastest and fiercest league in the world and no other league can compete with them. Like it or not, NHL officiating is the best in the world as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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