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2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

that must be the plan. It has to be really. 

Who are these super seven that will be the important cap balance?  Pods, Bone, OJ, Hogs, Dipietro, Lind, and ?

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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Who are these super seven that will be the important cap balance?  Pods, Bone, OJ, Hogs, Dipietro, Lind, and ?

Tryamkin shouldn't be a bank breaker, and Woo maybe? 

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7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Tryamkin shouldn't be a bank breaker, and Woo maybe? 

Of course, forgot those two.  Maybe even Stecher (if he would take 2.5 million) would be a good way to save cap room? 

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26 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Who are these super seven that will be the important cap balance?  Pods, Bone, OJ, Hogs, Dipietro, Lind, and ?

Rafferty is my best guess as to last member...

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Who are these super seven that will be the important cap balance?  Pods, Bone, OJ, Hogs, Dipietro, Lind, and ?

The Super Seven are as follows:

 

Jack Rathbone

Vasili Podkolzin

Nils Hoglander

Kole Lind

Nikita Tryamkin

Michael DiPietro

Brian Rafferty

 

I don't think OJ is in the mix at this point.  Tryamkin, Rafferty and Rathbone are all ahead of him right now.  Tryamkin provides the size and muscle, and Rathbone and Rafferty provide the speed and skill to complement Quinn.  All 7 of those players will either be on ELC's or cap friendly contracts for awhile and they will replace the likes of Demko, Edler, Tanev, Stecher, Pearson, Roussel and most likely Boeser if we re-sgn Toffoli.

 

All of these 7 players should be in the lineup within the next 2 years.  Tryamkin, Rafferty and Lind should be in the lineup next year and the rest will follow the year after.

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2 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said:

Rafferty is my best guess as to last member...

I believe so.  Doesn’t he have a one way salary in the coming year?

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16 hours ago, Alflives said:

Of course, forgot those two.  Maybe even Stecher (if he would take 2.5 million) would be a good way to save cap room? 

For me the price on Stecher isn’t as important as knowing whether he can be a bottom pairing d-man on a serious Cup contender.

I love his desire and the improvements to his game but is it enough? Today I would say No. I think the org depth passes him by. 

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how many pts does Putsgoalsin have in the KHL this year?

 

first one to get the right answer gets a Corona.

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Super 7

Hogwilder LW

Putzgoalzin RW

Lind RW

Brogan rastafari RD

Olli Yolandi LD

Rath of bone LD

Woo RD

 

Honorable mention get Focht.

 

There's really good competition for the D positions especially if you add Tryamkin to that mix. 

 

I predict Tanev will be re signed 3 years 5m. This will be Edlers last contract sad but age is catching up to the eagle. In 2 years time we could have a lineup of.

 

Miller Pete Toffoli

Pearson Bo Boeser

Hoglander Gaud Virtanen/Podkolzin

Roussel Beagle Podkolzin/Virtanen

 

 

Hughes Tanev

Juolevi Meyers

Rathbone Tryamkin 

Brogan Woo

 

 

 

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I remember how it was a big issue for Podkolzin that he was locked into the KHL for 2 years after the draft.  Looking at the top half of the first round now, I assume that at least half of the prospects will not be in the NHL next year either.  I'm not sure that anyone is more NHL ready at this point though.  I feel Pod will step in and make a big impact in our top 6 right away when he comes over.

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Podkolzin will be well prepared to play in the NHL by the time he arrives - I really expect a lot out of this kid.

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With our right side being stacked ( assuming we can re-sign Tofu ), I'm wondering if Pods can play the left side.

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18 minutes ago, komodo0921 said:

With our right side being stacked ( assuming we can re-sign Tofu ), I'm wondering if Pods can play the left side.

This is where a  gm makes his keep...……..

 

So with in 18 months or 1 more season, we will have this on the right side...…...

 

Toffoli

Boeser

Virtanen

Podkolzin…………...ready in 2 years

MacEwen…………...ready next year

Lind...……………….ready in 2 years

 

So the question what is each players actual ceiling

 

IMO, this is where Benning deals from. This is the strongest position organizationally, and is Benning's strongest position of value.

 

I do not think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out who is moved, if Toffoli can be signed.

 

If Benning thinks all players will turn out as projected, it makes for a very interesting summer...…...

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16 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

This is where a  gm makes his keep...……..

 

So with in 18 months or 1 more season, we will have this on the right side...…...

 

Toffoli

Boeser

Virtanen

Podkolzin…………...ready in 2 years

MacEwen…………...ready next year

Lind...……………….ready in 2 years

 

So the question what is each players actual ceiling

 

IMO, this is where Benning deals from. This is the strongest position organizationally, and is Benning's strongest position of value.

 

I do not think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out who is moved, if Toffoli can be signed.

 

If Benning thinks all players will turn out as projected, it makes for a very interesting summer...…...

Why sign toffoli at all at that point?

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26 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

This is where a  gm makes his keep...……..

 

So with in 18 months or 1 more season, we will have this on the right side...…...

 

Toffoli

Boeser

Virtanen

Podkolzin…………...ready in 2 years

MacEwen…………...ready next year

Lind...……………….ready in 2 years

 

So the question what is each players actual ceiling

 

IMO, this is where Benning deals from. This is the strongest position organizationally, and is Benning's strongest position of value.

 

I do not think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out who is moved, if Toffoli can be signed.

 

If Benning thinks all players will turn out as projected, it makes for a very interesting summer...…...

You are proposing signing Toffoli, trading Boeser?

 

Just for arguments sake, Toffoli's career year in 2015 is the only one on par with  ay of Boeser's three years production wise?

 

i realize there are intangibles of game style advantages to Tofu.  It is my belief that Green is working on these with Brock, just as Sutter drilled into TT.

 

12 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:

Why sign toffoli at all at that point?

Presuming the proposal is designed to accomplish asset management?

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19 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:

Why sign toffoli at all at that point?

OK, fair enough question...…………...

 

IMO, using the eye test only...…...Toffoli looks to be a more aggressive type of Offensive winger...….

His attitude, is somewhat like Millers in that regard, and maybe that is what is drawing me to him, I don't know.

But, IMO, you do not let a high calibre player walk for free, especially when you have paid such a price (Madden, 2nd, etc)

I also do not think Benning would use that much asset, just to give the team 4 to 7 games of playoff experience,

especially when it was not a certainty...…..

IMO, Toffoli looks like a player that can play into his 30's, so I would say 33 to be safe......

That is 5 years, and that is enough time to develop another RW, "IF" needed, as in "IF" one of our other 6 does not fill that role for him.

 

To me, it is about options and filling voids.

I have absolutely no argument, if Benning feels he does not have that

But I feel he thinks he does

And it appears that he does

and again, we would have 5 years to find a replacement, of a position which is easiest to fill....

 

Meaning #1 and 2 Centers and #1 and 2 Dmen would be the hardest, and then Goalie, then wings

So, yes Toffoli is a luxury, but as I implied and I know you know what I mean...……...

Boeser then become expendable, to fill in a different hole...……….and I do not take Boeser lightly

He is a fantastic find and a quality forward

 

But the question in my mind is the player moved (Boeser) bring us something we could really use? Aka a #2 RHD.

I am not sold on Dumba, but does that kind of play exist here, somewhere in our system? I say no.

 

Where as Toffoli and Podkolzin, and to a lesser degree Virtanen, gives us that, in different ways

 

At worst, it is a saw off, meaning trading skill for skill, for positional need

At best, it allows us a much stronger top 6 forward or top 4 dmen.

 

But as Joe says, in Benning we trust. I am just voicing an alternative

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38 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

You are proposing signing Toffoli, trading Boeser?

 

Just for arguments sake, Toffoli's career year in 2015 is the only one on par with  ay of Boeser's three years production wise?

 

i realize there are intangibles of game style advantages to Tofu.  It is my belief that Green is working on these with Brock, just as Sutter drilled into TT.

 

Presuming the proposal is designed to accomplish asset management?

Hi Surfer

 

I think I answered this in my answer to 73 percent

 

To me, it is not that Boeser has been anything but amazing..he has!

 

But it is about balance and it is about what is in the pipe line, and how close they are

 

I just voiced an alternative opinion, for discussion purposes...………...because

 

I am friggin bored!

 

Peace!

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2 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

This is where a  gm makes his keep...……..

 

So with in 18 months or 1 more season, we will have this on the right side...…...

 

Toffoli

Boeser

Virtanen

Podkolzin…………...ready in 2 years

MacEwen…………...ready next year

Lind...……………….ready in 2 years

 

So the question what is each players actual ceiling

 

IMO, this is where Benning deals from. This is the strongest position organizationally, and is Benning's strongest position of value.

 

I do not think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out who is moved, if Toffoli can be signed.

 

If Benning thinks all players will turn out as projected, it makes for a very interesting summer...…...

Petey-Boeser

Virtanen-Horvat-Toffoli

Gaudette-Podz

Beagle-MacEwen

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23 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said:

Petey-Boeser

Virtanen-Horvat-Toffoli

Gaudette-Podz

Beagle-MacEwen

Yes, when Pods arrives, move Jake to the left side and voila, no more RW logjam.

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