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5 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

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These two are listed at 5'10" & 5'11" ... I'd put him closer to 6'2" maybe even 6'3"

Out of curiosity, I right clicked-viewimage-magnify by 200% the image then scrolled the top of Pods head to the shortest guy. Scrolling back up you can see the difference is definitely more than three inches. If they over-stated the other guys height then that would obviously affect things though. 

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

There is no comparison between Virtanen and Podkolzin.  Podkolzin has a work ethic and commitment to excellence that Virtanen can only dream of.  Remember all players coming into the NHL have elite talent.  The biggest difference between guys in the AHL and guys in the NHL is usually between the ears.  Lots of guys get drafted with elite talent but can’t put it all together in the NHL.  

 

Podkolzin not only has the skill but he has the heart and desire to be a top player in the NHL.  Virtanen doesn’t have that.  He has mostly relied on his elite skill level that has taken him to where he is now.  If he wants to be more than a 3rd liner he has to get his head together and make that commitment to excellence.  Virtanen doesn’t have the skill to be a top 3rd line winger.  He’s not a 200’ player, he doesn’t kill penalties and he can’t be relied on defensively against other teams top players.  Podkolzin on the other hand can be an elite 3rd liner.  But he can also be a very good second line winger with BO.  

 

Benning gave a message to Virtanen. Guys are coming for his job.  Podkolzin is coming to take his job and he will take it.  I see Podkolzin playing a second line role with BO.  I see guys like Lind or MacEwen playing on that 3rd line.  I don’t see a spot for Virtanen after this season.  He will probably get traded in the summer for a pick or a prospect.  That’s my prediction.  

Couldn't have said it any better.

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1 minute ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:
If not was the better of the Russian forwards.  Its easy to say Podkolzin did a total 180 in this game's performance, but people will only say that because he got 3 points. The mainstay of his game that has been a constant in all 3 round robin games and the 1 exhibition was Podkolzin's work ethic and work rate. Whether hounding down pucks, blocking shots, and playing soundly on the PK, he has been consistent on all fronts.

 

To address you assumption, yes, I did watch last game. Podkolzin's effort was just the same last game as it was tonight, only difference was that he was finally rewarded for his hard work. Perhaps the facade that he got 3 points suggests that his intensity and work ethic was more on display, but if anything his tournament up to this point, even minus tonights game if you will, suggests Podkolzin's game has been steady, consistent, and has brought his best each n

Tweet summary: He had a few good passes, a couple ok plays along the board and stood in front of the net a bunch.......  he was definitely not hounding the puck all game that's for sure. I guess you missed a good chunk of the game where he was just floating out there and watching the play rather than making the plays happen himself. :rolleyes: 

 

... Not really worth debating one down game though, so cheers. Hoping for a strong game from him tomorrow. 

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1 hour ago, Nuxfanabroad said:

Still haven't been able to properly view this kid in a live game(only get NHL), but he sure seems like a beaut.

 

I wonder could he be a Russian version of JT Miller ?! :^)

 

Him & Tree should give our squad more confidence & push-back.

EXACTLY what I was thinking just now.  Besides playing center (surprise me, Vasili) his game is pretty complete and he even plays the bumper spot on the PP, while also having an explosive shot from the outside, along with two-way play.   

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4 minutes ago, HomeBrew said:

Tweet summary: He had a few good passes, a couple ok plays along the board and stood in front of the net a bunch.......  he was definitely not hounding the puck all game that's for sure. I guess you missed a good chunk of the game where he was just floating out there and watching the play rather than making the plays happen himself. :rolleyes: 

 

... Not really worth debating one down game though, so cheers. Hoping for a strong game from him tomorrow. 

Perhaps also looking at context as you also stated, the whole team wasn't really jiving that game, so perhaps him standing in front of the net was also having to do with Russia deploying odd tactics in the ozone as seen below.

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Considering Podkolzin is often used as a net front presence, kind of hard to do much when your teammates take muffin shots from a distance and don't really give Vasili much to work with. 

 

Perhaps you missed the subtle things in his game against the Czechs such as being well positioned defensively, having his stick in shooting lanes, and doing a very good job applying pressure on the forecheck. Just because a prospect doesn't wow you in a particular game does not mean his heart wasn't in it. If anything Podkolzin had a fine game, yes as you also said, made some good passes, strong along the boards, and had a consistent two way effort.

 

But high expectations and lack of incorporation of context also may lead one to believe his effort wasn't good enough in that game. So cheers, hope you are able to enjoy a growing prospect and see the good things rather than search for the bad ones. Who knows you might actually enjoy the player and watching him more. 

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32 minutes ago, CoolCanucklehead said:

LOL Deb. Simple Eye test says it all. Plus I'm a realist. 

Edler is 6'3"   Once Podz gets here & stands next To Edler everyone will see he's 6'1"
Then we'll revisit this.
Also glad 2 games doesn't resonate ones career...

Glad Podz shut the doubters up quickly tonight.

Podkolzin's linemate is 6'0".  Podz is easily a couple inches taller than him as shown when they came together after both of his goals today.  I would put Podz at 6'2" right now.  If you look at his feet they are huge and there has been talk that his hands are huge as well.  Lots of guys keep growing until they are at least 20.  By the time Podkolzin arrives in Vancouver he could be pushing 6'3".  At a minimum he will be 6'2" and probably around 215/220 pounds when he is fully grown.  He will be a true power forward in the NHL and will be a pain in the butt to play against.  

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6 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

 

 

If not was the better of the Russian forwards.  Its easy to say Podkolzin did a total 180 in this game's performance, but people will only say that because he got 3 points. The mainstay of his game that has been a constant in all 3 round robin games and the 1 exhibition was Podkolzin's work ethic and work rate. Whether hounding down pucks, blocking shots, and playing soundly on the PK, he has been consistent on all fronts.

 

To address you assumption, yes, I did watch last game. Podkolzin's effort was just the same last game as it was tonight, only difference was that he was finally rewarded for his hard work. Perhaps the facade that he got 3 points suggests that his intensity and work ethic was more on display, but if anything his tournament up to this point, even minus tonights game if you will, suggests Podkolzin's game has been steady, consistent, and has brought his best each night.

 

I saw the same. He played a good positional game, made smart plays, and worked hard.

 

It's not his fault that Russia's team game wasn't clicking and other players were out of sync with one another. They were fumbling easy set plays and got out worked. When they did get chances the Czech goalie made some nice saves. I thought Pod himself played not great but steady and consistent.

 

Now that he's scored, hopefully he will relax and play some more good hockey. His passing, vision, and anticipation were great but his defensive awareness has been under appreciated by the people looking solely at his offensive output. His board work was impressive as well.

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5 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

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These two are listed at 5'10" & 5'11" ... I'd put him closer to 6'2" maybe even 6'3"

 

27 minutes ago, RWMc1 said:

Out of curiosity, I right clicked-viewimage-magnify by 200% the image then scrolled the top of Pods head to the shortest guy. Scrolling back up you can see the difference is definitely more than three inches. If they over-stated the other guys height then that would obviously affect things though. 

My eye puts him t 6'1'' - 6'2'' today... 

But 6'4''  :picard:

 

 

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=218396 

-6'0'' 

https://dobberprospects.com/player/vasili-podkolzin/     

-6'1''

https://www.celebsagewiki.com/vasily-podkolzin

6'0''

https://www.capebretonpost.com/sports/hockey/canucks-top-10-prospects-vasili-podkolzins-two-way-game-is-nearly-nhl-ready-505245/

6'1''

https://canucksarmy.com/2020/09/08/video-vancouver-canucks-prospect-vasili-podkolzin-scores-goal-khl-season/

 

 

In other news, the KHL website has also updated its height and weight information of Podkolzin, claiming that he is 192cm (6’3″) tall. I don’t know if I can 100% say that he is not 6’3″, but I am pretty certain he is still the shortest player on his young guns line, he is potentially taller than Kirill Marchenko, who is listed at 189cm (6’2″) on the KHL site.

Ivan Morozov is measured at 6’1″ on the KHL website yet he is noticeably taller than both Marchenko and Podkolzin. So who knows what’s going on with that Russian website!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news on the height thing. The website also has him at 92kgs (203lbs). That is possible as he does look thicker than last season. It’s hard to tell on the ice but I just don’t think he grew three inches since being drafted.

In the end, it was a good performance from Podkolzin today and we will continue to follow his year in the KHL as it goes on.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, CoolCanucklehead said:

 

My eye puts him t 6'1'' - 6'2'' today... 

But 6'4''  :picard:

 

 

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=218396 

-6'0'' 

https://dobberprospects.com/player/vasili-podkolzin/     

-6'1''

https://www.celebsagewiki.com/vasily-podkolzin

6'0''

https://www.capebretonpost.com/sports/hockey/canucks-top-10-prospects-vasili-podkolzins-two-way-game-is-nearly-nhl-ready-505245/

6'1''

https://canucksarmy.com/2020/09/08/video-vancouver-canucks-prospect-vasili-podkolzin-scores-goal-khl-season/

 

 

In other news, the KHL website has also updated its height and weight information of Podkolzin, claiming that he is 192cm (6’3″) tall. I don’t know if I can 100% say that he is not 6’3″, but I am pretty certain he is still the shortest player on his young guns line, he is potentially taller than Kirill Marchenko, who is listed at 189cm (6’2″) on the KHL site.

Ivan Morozov is measured at 6’1″ on the KHL website yet he is noticeably taller than both Marchenko and Podkolzin. So who knows what’s going on with that Russian website!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news on the height thing. The website also has him at 92kgs (203lbs). That is possible as he does look thicker than last season. It’s hard to tell on the ice but I just don’t think he grew three inches since being drafted.

In the end, it was a good performance from Podkolzin today and we will continue to follow his year in the KHL as it goes on.

 

 

 

The shortest guy is listed at 5' 10".  More than three inches puts him taller than 6" 1"  I was going by the photo and even put in the caveat that the heights of the other players may be off which would affect the comparison. Going strictly by the photo and the other players listed heights, he is at least 6' 2"

At no point did I claim that he was 6' 4".

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From watching him play in the last few games and from some of his KHL games. He isn’t going to be a points dynamo.

 

it’s not a case of stone hands but it’s not really his game. He is very much an all round player with a good defensive mindset.

 

when he breaks the team here people have him on the 1st or second line. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him with Motte quite often to start with, and would not be surprised if the third line was Motte, Gaud and Pod - which would make it both defensively responsible but also have a good supplemental scoring potential. (Like a 2B line) 

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3 minutes ago, RWMc1 said:

The shortest guy is listed at 5' 10".  More than three inches puts him taller than 6" 1"  I was going by the photo and even put in the caveat that the heights of the other players may be off which would affect the comparison. Going strictly by the photo and the other players listed heights, he is at least 6' 2"

At no point did I claim that he was 6' 4".

So I said 6'1''-6'2''.
You're saying 6'3''. 
So the real argument you are making  here is 1".  lol.

Like I said earlier, EDLER is 6'3". 
When Podz gets here & is equal to EDLERS height I will 100% admit i was wrong. 
I hope you do the same. 

We'll be talking soon RWMc1 & Deb. :wub:B):rolleyes:

 

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Just now, CoolCanucklehead said:

So I said 6'1''-6'2''.
You're saying 6'3''. 
So the real argument you are making  here is 1".  lol.

Like I said earlier, EDLER is 6'3". 
When Podz gets here & is equal to EDLERS height I will 100% admit i was wrong. 
I hope you do the same. 

We'll be talking soon RWMc1 & Deb. :wub:B):rolleyes:

 

Nice try.

 

You claimed that I put him at 6' 4" because of the more than three inches comment.

 

Why don't you just admit that you screwed up on the math.

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Watched the game tonight and he was much better! I knew he was injured while watching his previous performances because he wasn't playing his typical hard nose game.Something was clearly bothering him and you noticed it tonight he is playing through something. I noticed he has really good playmaking abilities. I knew it was a part of his game that was underrated and now I see why. If he played with guys who could put the puck in the net he probably would have had 3-4 assists tonights. Nice to see him get 2 goals different ways. Special player you will win playoff games with. Couldn't be happier and can't wait to see him in a Canucks uniform soon!

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2 hours ago, Phil_314 said:

EXACTLY what I was thinking just now.  Besides playing center (surprise me, Vasili) his game is pretty complete and he even plays the bumper spot on the PP, while also having an explosive shot from the outside, along with two-way play.   

Pod kind of reminds me a bit of another #92 Gabe Landeskog. Both have good size/strength and use it properly, are leaders, play the right way to win in both ends, both willing to play in the tough areas.

 

Pod might end up being more of a defensive oriented player though. Landeskog use to be used more defensively(PK/Dzone) but then Mackinnon became a superstar and he's been deployed with him ever since. Still takes and wins faceoffs with Mackinnon though(400+ draws taken each year for last 3 years all above 50% winning). Landeskog is also the perfectly complementary piece for Mack/Rantanen and perhaps Pod can be that for Petey?

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2 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said:

Pod kind of reminds me a bit of another #92 Gabe Landeskog. Both have good size/strength and use it properly, are leaders, play the right way to win in both ends, both willing to play in the tough areas.

 

Pod might end up being more of a defensive oriented player though. Landeskog use to be used more defensively(PK/Dzone) but then Mackinnon became a superstar and he's been deployed with him ever since. Still takes and wins faceoffs with Mackinnon though(400+ draws taken each year for last 3 years all above 50% winning). Landeskog is also the perfectly complementary piece for Mack/Rantanen and perhaps Pod can be that for Petey?

On paper Podz is the complementary hard nosed piece for Petey just like Hogs is the complementary finesse piece for Bo.
i could live with something like this as core structure in near future :


Miller Petersson Podkolzin
Hoglander Horvat Boeser
Lockwood Gaudette Virtanen

Motte X McEwen 

 


Hughes Tryamkin
Schmidt X

Juolevi X 

 

Demko

X

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