Putgolzin Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 20 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: I don't disagree at all but I bet he is pretty frustrated with this Russian Club where his underlying stats show a top six if not top line forward stuck with sub fourth line minutes where he sets up guys who are ill-suited for taking the passes etc. and further hampers what production he can actually create. Kid has to be mentally tough to know he is far better than the opportunity that he is being provided. Would you care to share those underlying stats? And would you be so kind as to translate them into your understanding/perception of what they mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, nzan said: Would you care to share those underlying stats? And would you be so kind as to translate them into your understanding/perception of what they mean? Share, can't do that. Translate? They are numbers - numbers don't know language. He drives play, has incredible possession numbers and gets stuck with largely linemates in lower quartile of KHL averages. Take that at face value or don't take it - your call. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted January 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) There’s not a lot out there, when it comes to publicly available KHL advanced stats/microstats. You can access a whole bunch of stuff if you’re willing to shell out money for a paid service, but for free, you’re probably limited to following somebody like Chris Faber on Twitter (@ChrisFaber39), who has been watching Podkolzin’s KHL games all season and manually tracking his stats. Last I heard, Podkolzin was running at a rate somewhere in the low 60’s, when it comes to his CF%, which would be considered to be very good. I believe he’s one of the top players on SKA, when it comes to his possession numbers, as well as one of the better CF% in the KHL. As for the recent WJC, here’s a really good Twitter thread that references a bunch of advanced stats, and Podkolzin often appears in the top-3 for Team Russia: EDIT: If you read between the lines of the stats in the thread above, you get a very accurate picture of what kind of player Podkolzin is. Excellent possession numbers, with some extra value tilted toward defensive side/suppression (very low xGA/60 and strong impact on limiting xGA), but also good value on offensive side. Strong zone entries / controlled entries. Elite passing, both in total passes/60 (how much he’s passing the puck over the entire 200ft) and especially, when it comes to “shot assists” type passes. Podkolzin creates a ton of shot attempts off his passing, and these attempts have a very high xGF rate (his playmaking creates a lot of quality chances where goals are the expected results). Edited January 13, 2021 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 6 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Share, can't do that. Translate? They are numbers - numbers don't know language. He drives play, has incredible possession numbers and gets stuck with largely linemates in lower quartile of KHL averages. Take that at face value or don't take it - your call. I was asking a straightforward question, did it come across as snarky/aggressive? Because your answer did. Is it fair to assume from your answer that you haven't actually looked at those numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted January 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, nzan said: I was asking a straightforward question, did it come across as snarky/aggressive? Because your answer did. Is it fair to assume from your answer that you haven't actually looked at those numbers? Nope, and hope my answer didn't either. It isn't my data to share and I cannot find it publicly so I have it with privilege. My point was you can take what I know or just not take it - I can't control that. I have looked at the numbers, in fact have them in front of me as I type this. They are compelling and as good as his WJC numbers where his projected assist numbers alone would have had him leading that tournament in points. Kid needs linemates and minutes and he will be beyond what most of you Canuck faithful are expecting - may be the most pleasant surprise in terms of draft slot in your recent history. 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: There’s not a lot out there, when it comes to publicly available KHL advanced stats/microstats. You can access a whole bunch of stuff if you’re willing to shell out money for a paid service, but for free, you’re probably limited to following somebody like Chris Faber on Twitter (@ChrisFaber39), who has been watching Podkolzin’s KHL games all season and manually tracking his stats. Last I heard, Podkolzin was running at a rate somewhere in the low 60’s, when it comes to his CF%, which would be considered to be very good. I believe he’s one of the top players on SKA, when it comes to his possession numbers, as well as one of the better CF% in the KHL. As for the recent WJC, here’s a really good Twitter thread that references a bunch of advanced stats, and Podkolzin often appears in the top-3 for Team Russia: Sid, his CORSI for is insane - nearing 70%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said: Sid, his CORSI for is insane - nearing 70%. That’s great. Last I saw, it was around 63% or something, but he’s been so strong on possession, so wouldn’t surprise me if he’s pushed his rate even higher. Admittedly, I haven’t been tracking his numbers too closely this season. I’ve seen enough to make up my mind about Pod, so I’ve stopped really looking up stats on him. I just know he’s gonna be good. But I’m curious what service are you using for KHL advanced/tracking stats? Do they have some of the other quirky tracking stuff available from the smart tech, like total distance skated and silly things like that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: That’s great. Last I saw, it was around 63% or something, but he’s been so strong on possession, so wouldn’t surprise me if he’s pushed his rate even higher. Admittedly, I haven’t been tracking his numbers too closely this season. I’ve seen enough to make up my mind about Pod, so I’ve stopped really looking up stats on him. I just know he’s gonna be good. But I’m curious what service are you using for KHL advanced/tracking stats? Do they have some of the other quirky tracking stuff available from the smart tech, like total distance skated and silly things like that? Not a service - people who are invested in knowing the players trends in multiple European leagues. I know there are a lot of personal relationships with individual clubs involved too. There is a different level of information exchange in Europe than in North America - perhaps due to the media doing most of the work in North America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Not a service - people who are invested in knowing the players trends in multiple European leagues. I know there are a lot of personal relationships with individual clubs involved too. There is a different level of information exchange in Europe than in North America - perhaps due to the media doing most of the work in North America. Jeesh, I am glad you are back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Jeesh, I am glad you are back! You, Petish-Boi (or whatever) and OldlyNews....three of you. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: You, Petish-Boi (or whatever) and OldlyNews....three of you. Four, I've always appreciated your posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Four, I've always appreciated your posts. Love your music tastes mate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Coconuts said: Four, I've always appreciated your posts. Five Also @Rob_Zepp appreciate the continued discussion above. Very exciting takeaways. Almost like you’ve given those numbers a language. Edited January 14, 2021 by nzan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I mean, not like we hate you or anything! Good discussion is always welcome. As are good prospects, and I can't wait to see what Podz does with some NHL talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aGENT Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) That's a nice hit! 3.5 more months! Edited January 17, 2021 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Awesome hit. Bulk up the shoulders to maintain that hitting over a lot of years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 56 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Nice hit in the corner! We need that on this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ray_Cathode Posted January 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 hours ago, BarnBurner said: Nice hit in the corner! We need that on this team. With Podkolzin and Tryamkin yew might actually get to see some physical play from the Canucks, rather than just being run over by guys like Lucic, Kassian, and Tkachuk. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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