Elias Pettersson Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: Question. Right now, what players would you take over Podz from his draft year? For me, Dach, Zegras, Seider. Toss up for Hughes, Byram, Kakko He hasn't played a game but I feel like he has a very unique combination of size, skill, vision, and insane determination that will make him special. We'll see. For what we are lacking he was the best pick out of that whole group for us other than Seider. We are already set at 1C and 2C so no need for Hughes, Dach or Zegras. Podkolzin will be better than Kakko. And we already have Hughes and Rathbone so no need for Byram. The only player you can say we may need more than Podkolzin is Seider. So we will see over the next 3 years who is the better player, Podkolzin or Seider. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: For what we are lacking he was the best pick out of that whole group for us other than Seider. We are already set at 1C and 2C so no need for Hughes, Dach or Zegras. Podkolzin will be better than Kakko. And we already have Hughes and Rathbone so no need for Byram. The only player you can say we may need more than Podkolzin is Seider. So we will see over the next 3 years who is the better player, Podkolzin or Seider. Your optimism is infectious, but I still would love Byram... at 6'1 nearly 200ibs he is not soft. Happy with Podz though and agree he is exactly what we need up front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: For what we are lacking he was the best pick out of that whole group for us other than Seider. We are already set at 1C and 2C so no need for Hughes, Dach or Zegras. Podkolzin will be better than Kakko. And we already have Hughes and Rathbone so no need for Byram. The only player you can say we may need more than Podkolzin is Seider. So we will see over the next 3 years who is the better player, Podkolzin or Seider. Agreed on these points. I was looking at it as bpa and I think Dach and Zegras are a cut above the rest. For organizational fit, Seider would be the only one better than Podz though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Chicken. said: Your optimism is infectious, but I still would love Byram... at 6'1 nearly 200ibs he is not soft. Happy with Podz though and agree he is exactly what we need up front. Rathbone will be better than Byram. You can quote me on this... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Rathbone will be better than Byram. You can quote me on this... You have been quoted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 6 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: You have been quoted! You have been quoted! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienhuggyflow Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: For what we are lacking he was the best pick out of that whole group for us other than Seider. We are already set at 1C and 2C so no need for Hughes, Dach or Zegras. Podkolzin will be better than Kakko. And we already have Hughes and Rathbone so no need for Byram. The only player you can say we may need more than Podkolzin is Seider. So we will see over the next 3 years who is the better player, Podkolzin or Seider. That's how I see it as well. Whenever I read threads about the 2019 draft I am constantly flummoxed on how little love Podz gets outside of our fans and the Russian posters who appreciate him since they see him a ton. I read things like Newhook, Caufield would go higher in a redraft and I just don't get it. Caufield who is mainly a goal-scorer has 4 goals in 16 games while being pretty much meh away from that. Podz while yes the KHL is not the same level was his teams best player often on the 4th line who can literally contribute in every aspect of the game. The playoffs show us every year what kind of players needed to win, Podz has that in spades at 19 FFS. He might not win a Calder but I think he may end up being one of those guys that helps win the hardware that really matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienhuggyflow Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Rathbone will be better than Byram. You can quote me on this... I wouldn't bet against that. I see Rathbone ending up being just an absolute stud for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Foxy just won the Norris and Bones who played with him in the NCAA was more than able to keep up so sexy times coming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 20 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Rathbone will be better than Byram. You can quote me on this... Love it. Based on what though? A good, lucky feeling and some Canuck fan-dom/optimism? Which would actually be good enough for me. But if you could share something substantive to supplement that I would appreciate it even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Alienhuggyflow said: I wouldn't bet against that. I see Rathbone ending up being just an absolute stud for us. Only if he bumps Hughes (unlikely) or Miller to the 2nd PP unit. Bones will be neutered if he is relegated to 2nd PP duties. Would rarely be on the ice. Ideally ... PP1: Horvat - Pettersson - Boeser Hughes - Rathbone PP2: Podkolzin/Pearson - Miller - Hoglander Schmidt/Juolevi - Myers Which would be good. - JT isn't going to keep quiet about getting just 15 secs of icetime each PowerPlay. And I know Podz has played the point in U-20 PPs, but that was as 1st unit. You don't want a forward playing defence when the penalized player comes out if the box after a successful kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, nzan said: Love it. Based on what though? A good, lucky feeling and some Canuck fan-dom/optimism? Which would actually be good enough for me. But if you could share something substantive to supplement that I would appreciate it even more. A gut feeling at the moment. But in watching both players it seems Rathbone has a more well rounded game. He is 2 years older so of course that helps him in the short term. But Rathbone does have a lot of similarities to Adam Fox. I don’t see that with Byram. I’m not saying Byram won’t be a good player. He may even become a star. But I see Norris Trophy potential in Rathbone. He could become one of the greatest 4th round draft picks in NHL history. I don’t see Byram winning a Norris Trophy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Alienhuggyflow said: That's how I see it as well. Whenever I read threads about the 2019 draft I am constantly flummoxed on how little love Podz gets outside of our fans and the Russian posters who appreciate him since they see him a ton. I read things like Newhook, Caufield would go higher in a redraft and I just don't get it. Caufield who is mainly a goal-scorer has 4 goals in 16 games while being pretty much meh away from that. Podz while yes the KHL is not the same level was his teams best player often on the 4th line who can literally contribute in every aspect of the game. The playoffs show us every year what kind of players needed to win, Podz has that in spades at 19 FFS. He might not win a Calder but I think he may end up being one of those guys that helps win the hardware that really matters. Podkolzin is going to be a great playoff performer. Think Trevor Linden. I think Podkolzin is going to be a star. He won’t be as flashy as Pavel Bure or Alex Mogilny but at the end of his career in Vancouver he will leave a lasting legacy similar to the Russian Rocket. Edited July 1, 2021 by Elias Pettersson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Man Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: He could become one of the greatest 4th round draft picks in NHL history. 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I think Podkolzin is going to be a star. He won’t be as flashy as Pavel Bure or Alex Mogilny but at the end of his career in Vancouver he will leave a lasting legacy similar to the Russian Rocket. You're not short on bold! Gotta admire it when predictions swing for the fence:) I'm hanging on for the ride with ya!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Podkolzin is going to be a great playoff performer. Think Trevor Linden. I think Podkolzin is going to be a star. He won’t be as flashy as Pavel Bure or Alex Mogilny but at the end of his career in Vancouver he will leave a lasting legacy similar to the Russian Rocket. Pods is a bigger, and more skilled version of Burrows. That’s one heck of a player, who will help us win in a variety of ways. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Man Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Pods is a bigger, and more skilled version of Burrows. That’s one heck of a player, who will help us win in a variety of ways. I've no doubt:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cat Man said: I've no doubt:) @Cat Man If you ever need a cat sitter, remember Alf loves kitties. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Alflives said: @Cat Man If you ever need a cat sitter, remember Alf loves kitties. Especially with barbeque sauce. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Googlie said: Only if he bumps Hughes (unlikely) or Miller to the 2nd PP unit. Bones will be neutered if he is relegated to 2nd PP duties. Would rarely be on the ice. Ideally ... PP1: Horvat - Pettersson - Boeser Hughes - Rathbone PP2: Podkolzin/Pearson - Miller - Hoglander Schmidt/Juolevi - Myers Which would be good. - JT isn't going to keep quiet about getting just 15 secs of icetime each PowerPlay. And I know Podz has played the point in U-20 PPs, but that was as 1st unit. You don't want a forward playing defence when the penalized player comes out if the box after a successful kill. *New special teams coach* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Pods is a bigger, and more skilled version of Burrows. That’s one heck of a player, who will help us win in a variety of ways. Podkolzin is going to slay many dragons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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