BlueDragon23 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Alflives said: JB and Bracket are starting to collect quite a few of these players other teams missed. Boeser, Pettersson, Hughes and now...potentially Hoglander? Hee hee this brings me a lot of satisfaction. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bert Diesel Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2019 Not sure if this has been mentioned before but go look at Hoglanders combine results. Normally, a player excels in one or two categories. Hoglander was top ten in more than half of all the tests. That’s potentially unprecedented. With that kind of strength and fitness, it shocks me that he fell to us. He is probably the best overall athlete in the draft. In my opinion this makes his size a non issue. 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bert Diesel Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Bert Diesel said: Not sure if this has been mentioned before but go look at Hoglanders combine results. Normally, a player excels in one or two categories. Hoglander was top ten in more than half of all the tests. That’s potentially unprecedented. With that kind of strength and fitness, it shocks me that he fell to us. He is probably the best overall athlete in the draft. In my opinion this makes his size a non issue. Also, I think he’s got a chance to make it in 2020-21 season. Playing in the SHL already is a super good sign. Already surpassing Lind and Gadjovich’s production in a mens league but two years younger. Edited June 27, 2019 by Bert Diesel 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, Bert Diesel said: Not sure if this has been mentioned before but go look at Hoglanders combine results. Normally, a player excels in one or two categories. Hoglander was top ten in more than half of all the tests. That’s potentially unprecedented. With that kind of strength and fitness, it shocks me that he fell to us. He is probably the best overall athlete in the draft. In my opinion this makes his size a non issue. They were ecstatic to get him. It was his size and probably the usual "euro discount" that allowed him to get to us. Many scouts say he legitmiately has the best hands in the draft...From the videos of the on ice workouts at camp today, he battles extremely hard, and can dangle. Apparently he was the 'winner' at the combine as well. He may very well be another steal if his size doesn't impede his ability to play in the NHL - but any kid with heart and intensity (which he seems to have) can overcome size as he's a solid skater as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, cuporbust said: I have herd more then one analylist say thats not crazy at all. He very well could, but not sure its best for his development. Herd of hockey analysts: (Apologies; I couldn't resist.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crabcakes Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, 18W-40C-6W said: They were ecstatic to get him. It was his size and probably the usual "euro discount" that allowed him to get to us. Many scouts say he legitmiately has the best hands in the draft...From the videos of the on ice workouts at camp today, he battles extremely hard, and can dangle. Apparently he was the 'winner' at the combine as well. He may very well be another steal if his size doesn't impede his ability to play in the NHL - but any kid with heart and intensity (which he seems to have) can overcome size as he's a solid skater as well. Saw some clips on twitter. The kid not only has filthy hands, he has sick edges too I see these were posted on a previous page. I'll leave them up. People should see these Edited June 27, 2019 by Crabcakes 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Saw some clips on twitter. The kid not only has filthy hands, he has sick edges too I see these were posted on a previous page. I'll leave them up. People should see these look like he gave Teves more than he could handle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Saw some clips on twitter. The kid not only has filthy hands, he has sick edges too I'll say it again... Hogs will be the second most skilled forward on this team in two years bar none... Barring a major injury. He's looking awesome! So pumped! Edited June 27, 2019 by Rodishred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: Saw some clips on twitter. The kid not only has filthy hands, he has sick edges too I see these were posted on a previous page. I'll leave them up. People should see these Love the look on the defender (65) in that first clip. Knew he had been completely burned on the move. We aren’t going to be waiting long for this kid even though he doesn’t even look like a kid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, redhdlois said: It seems as if he is still growing also, as many said he was only 5’9”, but measured in at 5’10”........ would be great if he added a other inch or two. Really excited about this prospect. Don't we all. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Very quick elusive, small burst moves. Edge work is close to elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhdlois Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Don't we all. Lol....well, maybe not me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, BlueDragon23 said: This guy is a gem. He’s quick and got silky smooth hands. Happy he fell to us at #40. Could be a home run. Picked a Russian with the #10 pick. Picked a Swede with the #40 pick. I feel like good things are going to happen. If the Sedins taught me anything, the craziest things happened corresponding to their numbers. 1 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoldenAlien Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, zimmy said: Great point. I have to say, however, that your observation, the others that I'm reading here and a simple eye test are confusing me. How does someone with such obvious upside slide to 40th overall? Are our collective rose coloured glasses deceiving us? Sometimes players fall due to perceived flaws that turn out to be a non-issue (such as height, in this case). Other times the teams in front were set on filling specific needs. Aho was picked #35 in 2015 -- the five forwards taken in front of him were Mitchell Stephens, Christian Fischer, Nick Merkley, Anthony Beauvillier and Jack Roslovic. Aho scored 83 points this year. Two of the aforementioned guys did not play in the NHL this year; the other three combined for 70 points. Kucherov went #58 in 2011. The first five forwards picked that years were RNH, Landeskog, Huberdeau, R. Strome and Zibanejad. No comments necessary on how that turned out, even though 30 teams passed on Kucherov and most passed on him twice. By the way, Kucherov is listed at 5'11", 179 lb at 26. Central Scouting has Hoglander at 5'10", 188 lb at 18. Edited June 27, 2019 by GoldenAlien 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, redhdlois said: Lol....well, maybe not me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Holy crap! This guy is the bomb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Nils was a first round pick on 11 different draft lists i looked at. He was as high as 18th. Not that lists mean a ton always , but pretty excited to get him at 40 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 To me, size in itself is overrated. *Weak* players get exposed in this league - in the playoffs in particular. But a smaller but strong player can still thrive. Look at how Pettersson handled bigger guys last season. Angles, smarts, speed, strength - these all factor into a player being able to fend off others. And he was literally still just a kid. Add 20 lbs of muscle and his size will no longer be an issue. Then there are guys who just play big for their size. Hoglander is in amazing shape and will be just fine. No, he might not be a physical crushing force, but he will be fine. Besides, thats what we hope to have Tryamkin back for next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearoftheNuck Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: Picked a Russian with the #10 pick. Picked a Swede with the #40 pick. I feel like good things are going to happen. If the Sedins taught me anything, the craziest things happened corresponding to their numbers. Neat observation. I totally missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) On 6/22/2019 at 11:04 AM, elvis15 said: He's not the tallest player but not short, but you can see he's very solid in his build. Definitely has skill to pull of the move from behind the net, but looks like he can play the body as well. Lol. Holy crap that was a cooker. Love how it just a nonchalant skate from the box to the bench with a a quick bomb on the way. Didnt even phase him haha Edited June 27, 2019 by cuporbust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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