CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Finer details of the game is lacking for Hoglander. Several times I noticed that he made some pretty risky plays with the puck. He coughed the puck up in transition when he had a lane to simply dump the puck in and turned into a scoring chance. He iced the puck instead taking two strides to cross the red line. Just slow to defensive reads. I think he needs some refinement for sure, but sometimes it looks like he has brain dead moments in the dzone which is why I don't think he will get long looks or the benefit of the doubt with this coaching staff. He needs to be harder on his stick and have more situational awareness. He works hard but just doesn't seem to have the hockey IQ to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 4 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Finer details of the game is lacking for Hoglander. Several times I noticed that he made some pretty risky plays with the puck. He coughed the puck up in transition when he had a lane to simply dump the puck in and turned into a scoring chance. He iced the puck instead taking two strides to cross the red line. Just slow to defensive reads. I think he needs some refinement for sure, but sometimes it looks like he has brain dead moments in the dzone which is why I don't think he will get long looks or the benefit of the doubt with this coaching staff. He needs to be harder on his stick and have more situational awareness. He works hard but just doesn't seem to have the hockey IQ to use it. He's a work in progress. Be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 7 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Finer details of the game is lacking for Hoglander. Several times I noticed that he made some pretty risky plays with the puck. He coughed the puck up in transition when he had a lane to simply dump the puck in and turned into a scoring chance. He iced the puck instead taking two strides to cross the red line. Just slow to defensive reads. I think he needs some refinement for sure, but sometimes it looks like he has brain dead moments in the dzone which is why I don't think he will get long looks or the benefit of the doubt with this coaching staff. He needs to be harder on his stick and have more situational awareness. He works hard but just doesn't seem to have the hockey IQ to use it. Yeah, I watched Hoglander closely last game and it feels like he doesn't have the motor of his rookie season either. Sometimes he puts on the jets, but he seems to play more at 80% effort now than 120% as a rookie. Lets pucks just come to him a lot more often than going to get them like he did as a rookie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Don't know what we've done to Hoglander, decent pick, great skill and drive, yet like most Canucks prospects he's floating out there now. He looked good with Bo and Miller but honestly who wouldn't? We have to have a serious look in this organization to see how we draft and develop players, because we've made an absolute mess out of Hoglander, Rathbone and Podkolzin this year. So many people outside of the Canucks thought Rathbone and Podkolzin were top candidates to have break-out seasons yet they're flailing out there and mostly in the press box, and are too old to be developed in the AHL. We're wasting our best prospects out here, something's not right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Don't know what we've done to Hoglander, decent pick, great skill and drive, yet like most Canucks prospects he's floating out there now. He looked good with Bo and Miller but honestly who wouldn't? We have to have a serious look in this organization to see how we draft and develop players, because we've made an absolute mess out of Hoglander, Rathbone and Podkolzin this year. So many people outside of the Canucks thought Rathbone and Podkolzin were top candidates to have break-out seasons yet they're flailing out there and mostly in the press box, and are too old to be developed in the AHL. We're wasting our best prospects out here, something's not right... Just to rub salt I will mention that Big Mac is playing 15 minutes a game and producing just under 0.5 ppg. He plays the heavy game and drops them for his team mates. Torts loves him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Hoglander's goal tonight spots him into 157th in all-time Canuck scoring. Sandwiched between 2 similar smaller/high engine players. 156. Tyler Motte C 196 28 22 50 157. Nils Hoglander RW 134 25 25 50 158. Marc Crawford LW 176 19 31 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I think it might be a good idea to send him down to the AHL like they did with Podz. It is really helping Podz. Hogz just doesn't look like he belongs right now. When you notice what he is doing wrong more than what he does right there is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 7:07 AM, Boudrias said: Just to rub salt I will mention that Big Mac is playing 15 minutes a game and producing just under 0.5 ppg. He plays the heavy game and drops them for his team mates. Torts loves him. Can't say this aged too well, 2 1/2 weeks later, he's at 8 points in 27 games. Don't get me wrong - that's still very reasonable production given what else he brings to the table - though one has to wonder if his prior production was just a bit of a flash in the pan, or he really has the potential to play like that consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 This kid can play anywhere in the lineup. His compete level is great especially for a smaller player. Can't give up on Hogz, he has real potential. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 8 hours ago, saucypass said: This kid can play anywhere in the lineup. His compete level is great especially for a smaller player. Can't give up on Hogz, he has real potential. Hogs is without a doubt a keeper. He generates play, plain and simple. Top that with his hits, 2 nice ones last night. Lower body strength helps his play. Getting stronger on the d-side. You can see him looking around for his check a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBlueGreen Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 It looks like Nils got some top end speed and sleeker since the last game. Even the NHL.com has a sleeker version of him in his background image, with a different number: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, iBlueGreen said: It looks like Nils got some top end speed and sleeker since the last game. Even the NHL.com has a sleeker version of him in his background image, with a different number: That’s right, he had a breakaway last game through as pass from Petey. Might’ve gained some height too… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I reminded myself today of how young Hoglander is at just 21 (22 in 5 days). For reference, he's about 1.5 years younger than Rathbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I think he played his best game as a Canuck last night. He was feisty and fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I haven't watched an entire Canucks game in some time now, but was able to see the 3rd period last night. Hogs has never been a favourite of mine, but last night's game shows that his development is trending upward. I was impressed by how much his game has improved. Given his age, he is still a long way from his peak, which may end up being huge for the Canucks going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire_Spiky Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I really liked the look of the Garland-Dries-Hog line last game. Don't get me wrong they are small but they all have a bit of bite/snarl to their respective games which you need when you're a smaller player. When Hogs laid out 6'6" Zohorna you just knew that line wasn't taking any sh*t from anyone and they were rewarded for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Guys on 650 suggesting Pods and Hogs are sent down to get them out of the mess up here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, Alflives said: Guys on 650 suggesting Pods and Hogs are sent down to get them out of the mess up here. For once I actually agree with them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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