Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: 5ft 9 in size, just like caufield went from top 5 ish to mid 1st rounder. size is a factor when you pick early you need that player to pan out Hoglander just might have a better NHL career than Caufield. If a player is smaller, he better be able to skate. Hoglander can skate, is built like a block, has skill, and is hard nosed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, nergish said: Did he grow though? I thought he was 5'9. Not great size. I mean, Dahlen was getting pushed around a bit in the AHL... he's 5'11. To push him, they'll have to catch him first. The kid's very shifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 18 and already playing in the SHL. Not bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, Alflives said: Hoglander just might have a better NHL career than Caufield. If a player is smaller, he better be able to skate. Hoglander can skate, is built like a block, has skill, and is hard nosed. Anything is possible; however, I do want to point out that Caufield had over a goal per game last season, not a point but a goal. He's been getting more points than when players like Kessel were in that league. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, EliasBoeser said: Why even have an account? Why even spend the time? Why do you care? Pick a different sport or just yell at a wall. thats pretty far fetched, fans dont always have to agree on what management does. even when I dont agree with a posters comments I will stand up for their right to be unhappy with what they think is a bad move. I dont always post about things I am unhappy with and many here can attest to that. I believe most of JBs moves have been good for the team. Even the Juolevi pick as I didn't want a Tkachuck on the team however I am still waiting for some D improvement that he promised before the draft. Drafting a 5'8 forward and saying all the same things about him others have said about small forwards before is a repeat of what I have witnessed as a fan of this team from October 1970. If i didnt care i wouldnt be on this site. If everyone just agreed it would all be rainbows and unicorns here but we still wouldnt have a cup. 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phat Fingers Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, mikeyman109 said: Hoglander= Gaudreau- invisible in playoffs, just disappeared Petterson needs protection Boeser although i love this kid will get killed Horvat will survive, Pod will have to prove it when he gets here. That bottom 6 is nowhere near what our bottom 6 was in 2011. Hoglander really did disappear in the 2019 NHL playoffs, never saw him once... bust. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phat Fingers said: Hoglander really did disappear in the 2019 NHL playoffs, never saw him once... bust. i equated him to Gaudreau who did disappear in the 2019 playoffs. 1915 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phat Fingers Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 hours ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Scout... so I found another swedish kid that can juggle and ride a unicycle... JB... I gotta draft that kid... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, The Lock said: Anything is possible; however, I do want to point out that Caufield had over a goal per game last season, not a point but a goal. He's been getting more points than when players like Kessel were in that league. lol Some of those first round picks from that US development team program will be bustaroos. They were a stacked team, playing against boys. I think Zegras and Caufield will struggle against men. Hoglander played against men. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Phat Fingers said: Scout... so I found another swedish kid that can juggle and ride a unicycle... JB... I gotta draft that kid... That's the Petey standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 hours ago, GoldenAlien said: Ranked #18 by the Athletic, #19 by Elite Prospects, #23 by HockeyProspect.com, #29 by Future Considerations, #35 by TSN/ McKenzie, #41 by McKeen's Hockey. “Höglander has the best hands in the draft. When he has the puck on his stick, he’s trying to make a skilled play. His puck handling is lightning quick and he often leaves defenders in a knot with how he dangles while in stride. He’s not a selfish dangler, though, as he’s a great passer and looks for his teammates constantly. He’s not a typical playmaker you see run a power play and hang around the half-wall hitting seam passes. He’s always in motion and makes creative feeds. Höglander isn’t the biggest forward at 5-foot-9, but he plays with a lot of energy and engages well. He’s got a bit of an edge to his game, too. He’s a decent skater, more elusive than a burner with very good edges, but he can turn a corner when he needs to.” -- Corey Pronman. Aggressive winger with a nonstop motor and the ability to play much bigger than his measurements may indicate. Hoglander has played against adult competition in each of the last two seasons, and his dominance at the summer under-20 Four Nations tournament in August earned him a well-deserved berth on Rogle’s opening-night roster. He certainly didn’t make them regret the decision, as he was an everyday player who contributed in all areas of the rink. He plays the game at a feverish pace no matter the score or how much time is left, and his compete level is exactly what you want in a skill forward who is summoned to tackle key situations. Hoglander isn’t big, but he is fearless in the corners and immediately bounces back from hefty wallops from older, larger opponents. Without the puck, he’s an aggressive forechecker with an active stick who will finish his checks and force turnovers or rushed passes with regularity. Hoglander is a very good skater with first-step quickness who can accelerate to top speed in an instant. He controls his pace extremely well, and his quick feet and agility allow him to make sharp moves through the neutral zone. Hoglander is a capable stickhandler who weaves his way through a dense network of sticks and bodies, and his cutbacks lure opponents away from coverage before he exploits openings with hard, crisp passes on the tape. He can play the game either inside or out, and he’s a low-maintenance shooter thanks to a quick release and his ability to get shots on net while blanketed. Hoglander has excellent vision, and his decisions with the puck seem to always make sense. -- Steve Kournianos February 2019 – After spending most of the past two seasons in the Allsvenskan, Höglander has made the jump to the top level for his draft season. Even though Rögle is one of the worst teams in the SHL and Höglander’s minutes have been limited, he’s managed to put up good numbers considering his age. Höglander is a very talented skater with speed that allows him to get breakaway opportunities quite frequently. He has quick and soft hands which allow him to make highlight reel type plays. He’s also a quick thinker who likes to use all those qualities and play a fast-paced game. On top of those qualities, Höglander works really hard and is defensively responsibly as well. And even though he’s undersized at just 5-foot-9, he’s fearless on the ice. He likes to get his nose dirty in front of the net, and he loves to throw big open ice hits. Höglander has top-six upside but even if his offensive upside doesn’t fully materialize, he can still become a great third-liner. He will likely require another year of development before challenging for a spot on an NHL roster. -- Jokke Nevalainen Played in the SHL one year earlier than EP40, while being a smaller guy. Nowhere near the impact, but still.very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, mikeyman109 said: i equated him to Gaudreau who did disappear in the 2019 playoffs. 1915 Completely different players. Odds are Hoglander never plays in the NHL. But he plays a physical game. He’s not JG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Completely different players. Odds are Hoglander never plays in the NHL. But he plays a physical game. He’s not JG. my point exactly. odds are he never plays in the NHL but K Korczak will. Wheres the D? 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, mikeyman109 said: my point exactly. odds are he never plays in the NHL but K Korczak will. Wheres the D? 1915 Odds are no different for Korczak. 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Odds are no different for Korczak. 2021 Odds are better for a 2nd round D man than a second round undersized forward. they are not all Cliff Ronning. 1915 Edited June 22, 2019 by mikeyman109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, mikeyman109 said: Odds are better for a 2nd round D man than a second round undersized forward. they are not all Cliff Ronning. 1915 Odds are the same for all players, regardless of position. 2021 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 hours ago, mikeyman109 said: We need to draft some D. I'm actually quite shocked and somewhat concerned we got no defenceman this year. JB has consistently said young, mobile defenceman are the hardest asset to acquire and then he goes out and gets exactly - None! If he's got a plan I guess I have to trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 So maybe you saw that JB was asked why they didn't select any defencemen and answered that they got Hoglander at 40 which he personally thought was a total steal. I think the odds of Hoglander making it are quite a bit better than the average undersized secound-round F. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specz Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 No idea why this guy didn't go in the first round. I was pretty sure he was going in the teens after reading his scouting reports. Already playing in the SHL too. You guys think his ceiling is Brendan Gallagher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 He needs a sponsorship from Harley-Davidson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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